UK - again - can things get more absurd??


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P95Carry
May 27, 2003, 07:33 PM
Yep - it would seem so ..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Borroweed this from another board .. has to be read to even begin to believe ... Oh, this wonderful PC New World ......

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http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/stories/Detail_LinkStory=24927.html

manchesternews
Kids in toy gun amnesty

SCHOOLCHILDREN in Moss Side are handing over their toy guns in a weapons amnesty.

The youngsters are refusing to play with their plastic guns and knives after learning from refugee classmates about the horrors of real-life war.

Pupils from Bishop Bilsborrow Memorial RC primary and St Mary's CE primary schools in Moss Side are today bringing in their toy weapons, which will be melted down and transformed into art work to be displayed in war zones throughout the world including Sarajevo, Grozny and Kabul.

Water pistols, cap guns and toy swords are all being handed in as part of the Surrender Your Weapon event, organised by Medecins Du Monde, at Manchester Museum.

Pat Adams, headteacher at Bishop Bilsborrow primary, said: "It is important that children don't see guns as acceptable. It is even more important in an area such as Moss Side, where there is the whole gangster culture.

"The earlier the message gets across, the better. It also encourages them to think about the implications for children who can even be conscripted when they get involved in adult wars.

"The children understand the reasoning behind this and are happy to bring in their toy weapons."

The event is also taking place in London, Glasgow and Somerset as well as France, Germany and Holland. It will include an exhibition of photographs of children affected by conflict. A video will highlight the reality of life for a child living with war.

Then children will surrender their toy weapons or contribute a message, poem or drawing.

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This next item was snagged from yet another board - including into comments .. which seem highly relevant.

(Original link unknown).

While this reads like something out of the old Monty Python Show, I am personally inclined to take it seriously.

Are the people who draft these sorts of laws naturally stupid, or this truly a cultivated art form?

Equally important.

Are those who enforce such assinine laws with the zest and zeal of the British Police Officers in this news story recruited directly from mental hospitals, or do they have to pass a Bastard Test at the Academy first?

RECENT NEWSPAPER STORY: (from Swindon, Wilshire, England)
"When Karen McFarlane returned to her car to find two police officers waiting alongside she thought she was about to be ticked off aver the parking ticket she'd just been issued.
But the mother of two was stunned to be told instead that she could face a far graver matter- the presence on the back seat of her son's toy sword.
The officers warned her that she could be charged with carrying an offensive weapon if she did not put the 30" plastic toy in the boot.
The "pirate" sword might cause panic if seen by a passer-by they explained.
Miss McFarlane said 'I can't believe they could be so daft as to think that anyone would seriously think this toy was a real sword. It is just so obviously a child's plastic toy it beggars belief'
The officers waited 45 minutes to warn Miss McFarlane, initially she refused to put the toy in the boot but agreed when threatened with arrest by the WPC and her male colleague". :rolleyes:

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Peetmoss
May 27, 2003, 07:36 PM
This is brianwashing. Contamintating a childs mind like this is absurd and disgusting.

Drjones
May 27, 2003, 07:38 PM
Sorry.

The pinnacle was the cardboard police officers the english are going to put around cities.

Yes, I said cardboard.

:banghead:


I can post a link later.

MikeK
May 27, 2003, 07:41 PM
Although it is certainly tragic to see children killed in a war - wasn't it Hitler who said something like "Get the minds of the children."

Teach a kid to shoot before they become brainwashed.

El Tejon
May 27, 2003, 07:58 PM
Were the tots fitted for toy chains when they handed in their toy guns, just like the real world?:p

This makes me very happy. I am filled with glee to see Europeans becoming softer and weaker. We can only hope it spreads to Germany and France.

jimbo
May 27, 2003, 08:39 PM
Man, you LITERALLY had to pry my toy guns out of my cold, dead fingers when I was a kid. I mean, I usually took a Winchester or Peacemaker to bed with me.

I must have had over 20 toy guns when I was a kid. I don't mean water guns, I mean metal and plastic and wood, the more realistic looking the more I liked them.

The falasy in the whole anti-gun argument is despite 20 guns being my favorite toys when young, I have yet to commit a violent crime, shoot anyone either accidentally or on purpose, or otherwise be a menace to society.

But you all knew that. But it doesn't surprise me the gun-ban Nazi's don't believe it.:cuss:

Cosmoline
May 27, 2003, 08:48 PM
Maybe it's time to liberate the UK. They won't be able to fight back, after all :D

Standing Wolf
May 27, 2003, 09:01 PM
Rarely does a day pass when I fail to feel grateful to our forefathers for having rebelled against the English and founded a republic.

We saved England from totalitarianism not once, but twice. Now it embraces it with both arms. What an utterly despicable people!

El Tejon
May 27, 2003, 09:09 PM
Standing, I count three times--WWI, II and III. What's it to us but a benefit that Europe is weakening the next generation? Is this not a positive in light of the EU and the Paris-Berlin axis?

I want my nephews fighting soft targets, not hard men.

Waitone
May 27, 2003, 09:24 PM
Perhaps the cheelrin should go on a tour of the local morgue where they get to see the effect of violent crime on defenseless subjects.

Naaaah! Make too much sense.

NapAttack
May 27, 2003, 10:53 PM
Ah, teaching the children to be good little victims.

What do they teach the children to do when confronted by an armed criminal? Do they have classes on how to be a good PC corpse?

capt_happypants
May 27, 2003, 11:14 PM
NapAttack, for that particular lesson...

... they visit France!

Tamara
May 28, 2003, 12:49 AM
Water pistols, cap guns and toy swords are all being handed in as part of the Surrender Your Weapon event

I believe these events were last organized in England by the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans, and Danes. :scrutiny:

Mr. Goodglock
May 28, 2003, 12:52 AM
What a child abusing!! Preventing kid from idea of self defence and survival those who surrender children shamelessly to the criminals must be condemmed.:cuss:

Autolite
May 28, 2003, 01:39 AM
That Monty Python skit from thirty years ago where John Cleese plays an army combat instructor who trys to teach offensive fighting using a banana? The irony of it all ...

KC
May 28, 2003, 03:55 AM
As I was growing up (still a work in process) I was not allowed to have toy guns. My mother didn't want me growing up to be a nasty, evil, gun owner who would threaten his neighbors, corrupt the minds of children, and see my end as a national news story.
I wound up making my own toy guns off of pictures, and then discovered that there was money to be made selling them to my friends. (Something to think about, given the near total absence of toy guns anymore.)

Look at me now....I corrupt the minds of children when I tell them Clinton was the worst president we ever had, but the best politician. The neighbors don't like me for saying nasty, OBVIOUSLY untrue things like that. I don't know about my end, but certainly, I have more guns than I can easily clean in a single weekend. :D All that's left is to get a class I manufacturers licence....

People are afraid of things they dont understand, and do not regularly associate with. This is why some types do not like foreign food, are unwilling to associate with ethnic groups other than their own, and are afraid of guns.
Next time your kid is invited to a birthday party, wrap up a capgun as a present. Take the neighbor kid out shooting some time. Better yet, get several together and go skeet shooting, and dont invite just the local Boy Scouts (assuming that the group leader isn't already part of the problem.) Part of the solution to this rampant paranoia will be to provide a positive exposure/experience. But hey, what the hell do I know. I think the best way to deal with some of the violent radicals in the middle east is to fund arabic-language versions of CNN and MTV, and broadcast the hell out of it.:evil:


KC

mete
May 28, 2003, 05:49 AM
Hundreds of years ago able bodied men in england had to learn to shoot bow and arrow. That was proven again and again to be valuable. In WWII they were desprite for guns, so many americans sent spare guns to england. After the war they dumped them in the sea. Now they are taking away toy guns. It's downhill all the way.

Oleg Volk
May 28, 2003, 10:21 AM
From Orwell's Coming up for Air, describing events of 1905 or so.

But the thought of fishing sent me wild
with excitement. Many a time I'd been past the pool at the Mill
Farm and watched the small carp basking on the surface, and
sometimes under the willow tree at the corner a great diamond-
shaped carp that to my eyes looked enormous--six inches long, I
suppose--would suddenly rise to the surface, gulp down a grub, and
sink again. I'd spent hours gluing my nose against the window of
Wallace's in the High Street, where fishing tackle and guns and
bicycles were sold.
...

God, what hours I've spent gazing into
Wallace's window! Even the .410 guns and saloon pistols didn't
thrill me so much as the fishing tackle
Note also who archived this book: http://orwell.ru/library/novels/Coming_up_for_Air/e/0200031.txt

CZ-75
May 28, 2003, 12:30 PM
arabic-language versions of CNN and MTV

MTV, maybe.

CNN? Heck, they'll be over here blowing something up every week after getting their minds filled with that left-leaning crapola.

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