(Australia) Toy gun = real drama


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Bruce in West Oz
May 27, 2003, 10:56 PM
Daily Telegraph NSW

Fake gun: real drama
By FRANCES O'SHEA 28may03

THE most sinister thing this child's toy gun has been used for is a game
of cowboys and Indians.

But it landed Ronaldo Cabras, 43, in court yesterday after police
insisted it was a prohibited weapon.

Mr Cabras was stopped at 1.25am on December 26 last year by police
random breath testing in the Kooragang Island area near Newcastle.

Police searched his Ford Testar after seeing the butt of a gun
protruding from a pocket behind the front passenger's seat.

Mr Cabras told police the gun had been left there a week earlier after
he had given a friend a lift home and he had forgotten about it.

After his arrest he told officers it had been left in his car by the
six-year-old son of a friend.

"I found it two days ago behind the passenger seat and I left it there,"
Mr Cabras said at the time.

Despite Mr Cabras' protests that the gun was a little boy's toy he was
arrested and charged with being in possession of a prohibited weapon.

A police forensic expert who later examined the gun found it
"substantially imitates a firearm".

Yesterday Mr Cabras, a phone card salesman and student, from Mayfield
pleaded not guilty to the charge in Newcastle Local Court.

If found guilty he could have been sentenced to a maximum five years
jail and fined up to $10,000.

After submissions from barrister Robert Cavanagh from Newcastle
University's legal centre Magistrate Steve Jackson ruled the gun was a
toy and dismissed the charge.

Mr Cavanagh had told the court for the act to apply the replica must be
that of a firearm and fall within the definition of a firearm.

Police said the ruling sets a disturbing precedent and may appeal: "It
provides an out for anyone running around with one of these guns.
"This replica looked very much like a real gun and I wouldn't want it
pointed at me."

Yesterday Mr Cabras, who has no prior convictions, told The Daily
Telegraph he was relieved the charges had been dropped.
Magistrate Jackson ruled the toy be returned to its owner.

:cuss: :fire: :banghead:

Bruce

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Standing Wolf
May 27, 2003, 11:08 PM
Police said the ruling sets a disturbing precedent and may appeal: "It provides an out for anyone running around with one of these guns. "This replica looked very much like a real gun and I wouldn't want it pointed at me."

Kangaroos have more sense than many Australians.

Combat-wombat
May 28, 2003, 12:31 AM
:cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :barf: :barf: :barf:

fallingblock
May 28, 2003, 06:50 AM
How quickly this country is going NUTS about firearms:what:

TarpleyG
May 28, 2003, 07:23 AM
A police forensic expert who later examined the gun found it:what:
They have to have an expert determine that the gun is a toy? No wonder everyone there is so scared of guns, they don't even know what one is.

GT

fallingblock
May 28, 2003, 07:31 AM
you should read what some of the "gun safety" experts write in the Australian media;)

Well, maybe not...no point in wasting good time:rolleyes:

starfuryzeta
May 28, 2003, 07:32 AM
Hey, read the other headlines from that website.

Every Other Day, Someone Gets Shot in Sydney (http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,6504750%255E701,00.html) :rolleyes:

fallingblock
May 28, 2003, 07:38 AM
"Police Minister John watkins yesterday acknowledged hand guns were a major problem in Australia...":banghead:

Surely Minister Watkins MEANT to say ILLEGAL handguns, didn't he?:barf:

None of these shootings are being committed with registered handguns or by licenced owners. None.

Guess who gets whacked by the"tough new handgun laws"?:fire:

280PLUS
May 28, 2003, 07:53 PM
i'm sure uncle jack is rolling over in his grave on a regular basis down there...i wonder what he'd have to say to them all

:what: :fire: :cuss:

:D

OF
May 28, 2003, 08:08 PM
Run, Bruce. Run. Flee. While you still can.

- Gabe

DrPsycho
May 29, 2003, 02:14 AM
In NSW they're trialling marijuana for medicinal use, and yet can't seem to get to the gun "control" issue! :(

As I understand, the Prohibited Weapons Act does not distinguish between real or fake firearms and or other weapons, as it states posession of such is liable for bla bla bla...

I'm glad the judge in this case had some sense. Now to get to my local Toys R Us.

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