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absolute0
December 30, 2006, 03:50 PM
A freind who's relatively new to shooting posed a question to me the other day; what would comprise an "acceptable" battery of rifle calibers for hunting, plinking, paper punching and all around mischief.

While not a difficult question to answer ( I suggested .22lr, .223, 30-06 & .338 Win Mag) I was interested in what others' thoughts might be. Not a question of platform or brand, but say, 4 rifle calibers that would more or less cover the shooting spectrum from small to large.

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Chipperman
December 30, 2006, 03:55 PM
Those are fine choices.

You could even go with just two-- .22 and .308
Adding an intermediate is nice-- .223 or 7.62x39
A more poweful is nice too-- .338 Win Mag or Lapua, or how about .50 BMG? :evil:

ugaarguy
December 30, 2006, 04:12 PM
Interesting. 22 LR without question on the rimfire end for paper punching & small game. 5.56 NATO (.223) for cheap and plentiful centerfire ammo. Plus it's a good round for varmints, up to medium game, and defensive use. After that .308 for heavier hunting tasks, 7.62 NATO compatability, etc. Alternately .30-06 for versatility to shoot bullets heavier than the .308. So either the .308 or the .30-06 for the heavy centerfire. For the final chambering, I'd go with something pistol caliber. I don't need a large magnum rifle, nor do most people who live in the US, excluding some who live in Alaska, or those lucky enough to hunt large African game with enough frequency to justify such a rifle. Given those circumstances a pistol caliber carbine would be best in my opinion. A lever gun in .357 Mag or .44 Mag (or 45 Colt) with a like chambered revolver; or a semi-auto in a major caliber with like chambered pistol - magazine compatability a plus. In my case that means I need to find a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45 ACP to compliment my 1911 addiction. So there are my choices.

Brian Williams
December 30, 2006, 04:17 PM
22lr,
22-250,
7mm-08,
358 win.
I would love a matched set of Win Mod 70 Compact classic in these three, with the 22-250 in a mid weight barrel for varmints, the 7mm-08 in the original sporter taper and the 358 win in a nice sporterweight, to them with some nice Leupold scopes, the 22-250 with a 3x9 and the others with 2x7 compact. Add a nice Win Model 52 sporter and there would not be much in N.A. that could not be taken.

Vern Humphrey
December 30, 2006, 04:24 PM
Those are good choices. I'd start with asking, "What are these rifles for?"

For small game hunting, plinking, practice and just plain fun at low cost, the .22 LR. Mine is a Kimber M82 and I've killed a boxcar load of squirrels with it. I used to regularly win Silhouette matches with it, to boot.

For varmits, the .223 is hard to beat. My own varmit rifle is another Kimber, in .22 Hornet, which is great for the Ozarks, but if I went prairie dog hunting, I'd want a .223.

For general hunting -- deer, bear, elk, and so on, Townsend Whelen's often quoted advice applies, "The .30-06 is never a mistake." Mine is a Winchester Model 70, made in 1939.

That leaves us with a heavy rifle to choose -- I'd go with a .375 H&H. The .338, for all it's advantages, isn't legal for dangerous game in some African nations (and we can all dream, can't we?)

absolute0
December 30, 2006, 08:15 PM
Point taken Vern. If you're gonna have a big boomer in the mix you may as well have one that doesn't leave you wanting for whatever reason.

I'd agree with the point made that a man could get by with just a .22 and a 30-06 class rifle if he were forced to really cut things to the bone, but what a wretched life that would be :eek:

Vern Humphrey
December 30, 2006, 08:22 PM
I'd agree with the point made that a man could get by with just a .22 and a 30-06 class rifle if he were forced to really cut things to the bone, but what a wretched life that would be

There ought to be some sort of a program for people like that -- so poor people can have an adequate battery, just like everyone else.:p

Walkalong
December 30, 2006, 08:33 PM
.22LR, .223, .308, and thats all you need unless you just want a big boomer also. :)

ArchAngelCD
December 30, 2006, 09:19 PM
.22 LR
.22-250 Remington
.308 Winchester
.357 Magnum

telomerase
December 30, 2006, 09:31 PM
There ought to be some sort of a program for people like that -- so poor people can have an adequate battery, just like everyone else.

You're thinking of ADC: Aid to Dependent Crufflers. The companion program to National Car Care.

In the alternate universe where cancer was cured by free-market biotech years ago, but transportation is run by the AMA (American Mechanic Association)... so everyone rides horses to their genetic engineering jobs.

telomerase
December 30, 2006, 09:34 PM
Oh, and:

.22 LR
.300 Whisper
6.5mm Swede
Armbrust (you can't really hunt whales with a .50 BMG)

Srigs
December 31, 2006, 12:49 AM
Here are my 4.

22 LR
30-30
357
308

10-Ring
December 31, 2006, 01:08 AM
Rifle rounds???? I'd go w/
22lr, 223, 308 and 300 win mag

Boxhead
December 31, 2006, 01:15 AM
Though less than I own because I can :) , assuming world wide hunting and one being a non-rifle "loonie" it would be:

22 RF
223
338 Win Mag
416 Rigby or Rem

If for the lower 48 only,

22RF
223
30-06
375 H&H

If for world wide hunting AND a rifle "loonie" well lets just say my list is a rather long one... :D

El Tejon
December 31, 2006, 01:15 AM
.22lr for small critters and varmits,

.308 winchester, for men and deer

.338 WM, bigger critters

and .50 USMG, for things.

ArfinGreebly
December 31, 2006, 03:41 AM
hunting, plinking, paper punching and all around mischief

.22 LR, .38 spl, .30 Carbine -- Plinking/paper punching
.22 LR, .38 spl, .30 Carbine -- Hunting -- small
.357, .45-70 -- Hunting -- medium
.357, .45-70 -- Hunting -- large
.22 LR, .38 spl, .357, .30 Carbine -- All 'round mischief

.22 -- little critters (squirrels)
.38/.357, .30 carbine -- medium critters 4-leg/2-leg (attack squirrels)
.357 -- medium game, some large game (squirrelenegger)
.45-70 -- medium game, large game (squirrelzilla)

The .30 carbine is in there for crowded social work.

Marlin makes all but one:
.22 LR -- Marlin 39A,
.30 Carbine -- ex-Mil or Auto Ord/Kahr,
.38/.357 -- Marlin 1894C,
.45-70 -- Marlin 1895 series.

IV Troop
December 31, 2006, 11:25 AM
.22lr
.223
.308
300win

Brian Williams
December 31, 2006, 11:32 AM
ArfinGreebly, IIRC Marlin did make a lever in 30 carbine, a 65???

amprecon
December 31, 2006, 12:49 PM
.22lr
12 gauge
.45acp (9mm or .40)
.308 (.30-06)

mountainclmbr
December 31, 2006, 01:05 PM
.22lr
.223
.308
.375 H&H

ArfinGreebly
January 1, 2007, 05:08 AM
Close . . . it was actually the Model 62.

Kim du Toit has an article here:
http://www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/ggps/8175/
which has this picture:

http://www.theothersideofkim.com/images/2005files/Marlin_Mod_62_30carbine.jpg

If anyone actually HAS one of these things, please name your price.

(Kim also has this:
http://www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/ggps/6047/
being the .30 Carbine revolver.)

Magnum88C
January 1, 2007, 03:03 PM
A freind who's relatively new to shooting posed a question to me the other day; what would comprise an "acceptable" battery of rifle calibers for hunting, plinking, paper punching and all around mischief.

.22LR,..........................Hunting (varmint/small game), Plinking, Paper Puncing, Mischief
7.62x39/5.56x45*,....... Hunting (up to Whitetail deer), Plinking, Paper Puncing, Mischief
.308/30'06**,..............Hunting, Paper Punching, Mischief
.375 H&H,....................Hunting (Big/dangerous game)

*Depending on if you prefer an AR-15 or Ak-47 type rifle for your mischief, bolt actions available for both.

**Depending on if you prefer an M1 or an M1A/FAL/G3, etc, bolt actions plentiful for both.

Richard.Howe
January 1, 2007, 03:12 PM
My spectrum:

22LR bolt or semi
223 semi
308 bolt
45-70 lever

Done deal!

Rich

B.D. Turner
January 1, 2007, 04:20 PM
For me it's these four.
.22
.44 magnum
30-30
.30/06

Max Velocity
January 1, 2007, 05:17 PM
22 L.R.
223 Remington
30-06

and not a rifle caliber ,but...
12 gauge

Shoney
January 1, 2007, 06:05 PM
22LR

6mmRemington with 1-10twist

300 Win Mag

375 H&H

The world is yours for every occasion, except war and birds.

wanderinwalker
January 1, 2007, 06:15 PM
If we're just looking at rifle calibers, I'd argue that the list should be as follows:

.22 LR, for plinking and recreational fun, as well as small edibles and Olympic-class match rifles. My choices would be an accurized 10/22 and an Anschutz if some model.

.223, great for plinking, vermin, social work and Highpower stuff. I'd take an AR-15, well, like 3. A flattop varminter, a 16" shorty and my 20" match Service Rifle.

.30-06, because it is enough gun for anything I'll ever hunt, not overwhelming to most shooters, and if you qualify for CMP ammo, not even super-expensive to shoot. I'll take an M-1 Garand, an '03 Springfield and a Ruger 77.

Number four? Eh, probably a .44 Magnum carbine, because I love lever actions chambered to this round. A Marlin 1894PG is perfect for this, as a short range plinker, defense rifle and medium game hunting rifle.

IF I needed a bigger gun, it would be a ,375 H&H instead of the .44. But I don't see that in MY future, so my pick stands! ;)

BTW, if I can only have four cartridges, I'm not gonna be stuck with only four rifles!

High Planes Drifter
January 1, 2007, 06:40 PM
22 LR
.223/5.56
.30-06
.45-70

trigger45
January 2, 2007, 06:47 AM
.22lr
.243 win
.270 win
8x57js

hows this?

4fingermick
January 2, 2007, 07:46 AM
22LR

223 (substitute 22/250 if you hunt in wide open country, with longer ranging shots.

243 or 25/06

308 or 3006 or 338 depending on experience, recoil tolerance game hunted, etc.

If I was hunting big game I would choose the 338, probably wouldn't go bigger, but would shoot premium bullets only such as Woodleighs or Barnes Triple Shocks.
Mick.

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