I just ordered 1000 rounds of wolf 7.62x39 for my SKS


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Redneck with a 40
January 2, 2007, 12:09 AM
Wolf 7.62 ammo is getting hard to come by.:mad: Midway is out, no backorder, natchez is out, no telling when they might get more. Sportsman's guide has some in stock, but only the 154 grain soft point. I ordered 1000 rounds of this stuff while I still can. The supply of this ammo is apparently getting very tight and the prices at my local gun store are rediculous, $6/20. I paid $170/1000 including shipping. Now I will have 1200 rounds on hand, if the supply dries up, even temporarily, I'll be okay for awhile.:D

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Wesson Smith
January 2, 2007, 12:20 AM
Try Cheaper Than Dirt.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM631-47830-258.html

Wesson Smith
January 2, 2007, 12:23 AM
$170 for 1000 rounds is not bad! What were you expecting?

eastwood44mag
January 2, 2007, 12:31 AM
Back when, I got 1000 for less than $100 shipped.

Course, that was 2 years ago, and it was Wolf FMJ.

I miss those days.:(

DMK
January 2, 2007, 12:43 AM
I paid $170/1000 including shipping. Now I will have 1200 rounds on hand, if the supply dries up, even temporarily, I'll be okay for awhile.I'm glad I stocked up on it when it was $60-$80 for 1k! I have about 8 or 9k on hand, so I'll be OK for a while if the supply dries up.

:neener:

Jackal
January 2, 2007, 12:47 AM
I was lucky to snatch up 2k of Barnaul a couple years ago. So far, it is the most accurate ammo I have used, including Remington and Winchester. Why is everyone freaking out? Wolf isnt the only cheap ammo out there. Here's a link to some ammo that AIM has. http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Golden_Tiger_7.62x39_124grn_FMJ.html

mrmeval
January 2, 2007, 12:58 AM
Per 1000 without S&H as of 01/01/2007

Cheaper than dirt isn't, it's 184.50 without s&h

Aim has it for 149.95

Widners 149.95

Outdoor marksman $189.50

Ammunition store OUT

Midway US commercial only, import stuff is out.

Cabellas is 199.99

J&G $169.90

Juna
January 2, 2007, 09:17 AM
What's it going for at gun shows? Anyone seen any lately?

Also, anyone have a phone # for AIM?

mrmeval
January 2, 2007, 09:47 AM
There was almost none at the last Indy 1500, what was available was too expensive coming close to commercial in price.

The next Indy 1500 is January 12th and I'll be picking up some if it's a good price.

DMK
January 2, 2007, 12:01 PM
I'd go with that Tiger from AIM. It's probably better than Wolf anyway if the same as the stuff from about four years ago.

Also, anyone have a phone # for AIM?

http://www.aimsurplus.com/

888-748-5252

1 old 0311
January 2, 2007, 03:57 PM
www.classicarms.us lists the Military Classic at $149.95

KMBRTAC45
January 2, 2007, 04:21 PM
I picked up a 1000 rnds of Wolf Military Classic at the gun show in Phoenix, AZ in December for about $160.00

roarindan
January 4, 2007, 01:58 PM
centerfire systems's got wolf 1g/154$$

mrmeval
January 4, 2007, 02:36 PM
Please post a link to the centerfire ammo, the only ones directly off their page are higher than that.

MechAg94
January 4, 2007, 03:29 PM
The last Real Gun Show in Pasadena, TX had quite a bit. These guys used to have a lot of SA .308 also, but not much of that left.
At the other show at the same place, one guy had Wolf including some 5.45. Price was around $160, maybe $170 per case.

ZeSpectre
January 4, 2007, 03:31 PM
Picked up 1k rounds of wolf at a gunshow recently for about the same price. Since I don't shoot my SKS all that much it should last me a LOOOOONG time.

1911JMB
January 4, 2007, 04:01 PM
The best way to stop belly aching about ammo prices is to take up reloading.

Shoney
January 4, 2007, 04:15 PM
1911JMB
Please tell me where I can find reasonably priced reloadable brass and bullets for the 7.62x39

Andrew S
January 4, 2007, 05:42 PM
Picked up a case for $150 at a gunshow a couple months ago when supply was lower than it was now.

I also got on a Sportsmans Guide backorder that lasted like 3 months for $130 a case. I have around 2500 left.

Glockfan.45
January 4, 2007, 05:47 PM
Reloading 7.62x39 ha ha funny. Tell me how do you retrive your brass? My AK, and SKS hurl the empties pretty damn far.

ZeSpectre
January 4, 2007, 05:49 PM
Not to mention how badly my SKS dings the case mouth turning it from an "O" shape to a "D" shape.

perdurabo93
January 4, 2007, 06:21 PM
Reloading? For 7.62x39? Just where am I going to get affordable brass? 99% of all milsurp 7.62x39 is berdan primed and steel cased. Reloading steel cases really isnt all that big of a deal, but reloading berdan primed brass is insanely difficult and time consuming, not to mention the fact that berdan primers arent particularly plentiful and easy to find.

I could buy commercial soft point bubba hunting ammo from Wal-Mart or somesuch and get a brass boxer primed case, but I'd have to pay nearly $1/round to get that. So the only other option is buying unfired and unloaded brass from someplace like MidwayUSA. Whats their price? $260 for 1000 Winchester virgin 7.62x39 brass. Yeah, right. Are you going to miraculously convert all those berdan primed cases into boxer primed?

Then theres the issue of bullets. Ideally, you should shoot .310" bullets in 7.62x39. How much are those? $120 for 1000 Hornady 123gr FMJ bullets. You *CAN* shoot pulled milsurp .308" 147gr FMJs in a 7.62x39, but they are likely to be a lot less accurate and almost certainly wont shoot POA on a rifle thats sighted for standard 123gr. 7.62x39.

Reloading for 7.62x39 just isn't that feasible, even at the current crazy prices of Russian steel cased ammo.

MechAg94
January 4, 2007, 10:37 PM
I bought about 500 rounds of Winchester AK ammo right after the prices went up a year or two ago. It was almost twice the going price at that time. Still is I think. I am not sure if that really helps much.

dolanp
January 4, 2007, 11:46 PM
Cabellas is 199.99

Interestingly though when I went to the store in person you could still get the 500 rds with plastic ammo box for $80.

Academy's site also says they still sell Monarch for $2.86/20 ($143/1k) if you have one around.

1911JMB
January 5, 2007, 07:03 AM
<1911JMB
Please tell me where I can find reasonably priced reloadable brass and bullets for the 7.62x39>

I don't know the exact costs, but cabelas has everything you need. Granted it would be expensive to get the brass, but obviously the shells can be reloaded dozens of times, and you can even cast your own bullets if you really want to save some money.

mrmeval
January 5, 2007, 10:13 AM
I am considering reloading, this is 7.62x38 with new components.

1000 rounds of 7.62 using new components.
brass 258.99
bullets 124.99
powder 56.97
primer 43.98

$484.93 :what:

I did not add in shipping or the hazmat fee on the powder.

That's just nuts. I can buy commercial with good brass and match or beat that and still have the brass left over.

rbernie
January 5, 2007, 11:52 AM
Here's my experiences with reloading 7.62x39:


1000 once fired large primer cases, local - $110 + tax
1000 Hornady 123gr SP, MidwayUSA (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=327498) - $141.99 + shipping
3lbs H4198 or AA1680, local - $56.00 + tax
1000 CCI 200 Primers, local - $21.95 + tax

Total cost for first 1000 rounds - $330.00 + tax or shipping. Next 10,000 rounds (reloading cases ten times) - $220.00 per thousand. And this is your cost for accurate, reliable ammo with which you can both target practice and hunt. In fact, I just took a nice doe with this recipe late last week. Yum. :D

Please tell me where I can find reasonably priced reloadable brass and bullets for the 7.62x39I get my brass either on eBay (http://tinyurl.com/why5t) or local range pickup. Average price for once-fired Winchester or PMC brass is around $10 or $11 per hundred. Remington brass costs more because it uses small rifle primers and is harder to find.

I buy my powder at Sportsmans Warehouse (cheapest) or Bass pro Shops (almost as cheap). Most of my bullets come from MidwayUSA or are locally bought from Sportsmans Warehouse.

I actually get stellar life from the commercial brass cases; reloading each more than twenty times is not unusual. The round doesn't run exceptionally high pressures, so the brass tends to last a really good long time.

The only issue with reloading is you'll suddenly find yourself chasing your fired brass all over the range instead of leaving them lay whetever they fell.

Glockfan.45
January 5, 2007, 05:42 PM
Total cost for first 1000 rounds - $330.00 :what:
Jesus you could buy 2500 rounds of Wolf for that.

rbernie
January 5, 2007, 09:31 PM
Naw - that's only buy 2000-2500 rounds (shipped) these days, and Wolf is not be nearly as accurate or clean as reloads. And it's probably better to use the $220/1000 number to compare costs, since you'll get ten or more reloads out of the up-front investment in brass.

I use Wolf for CQB stuff, where accuracy doesn't really matter. But for > 100yd work, I'm willing to pay a bit of a premium ($220/1000 vs $150/1000) for accuracy.

Gewehr98
January 5, 2007, 09:56 PM
About 5,000 pieces of reloadable 7.62x39 brass, and several thousand IMI 123gr .312" bullets. (Check Wideners and the like, they get bulk specials in from time to time) The increase in accuracy over surplus and clean burning ammo is a nice benefit.

Golden West Brass makes a nice 124gr AK bullet, that sells for $120/2000. They work quite nicely in my SLR-95 and SAR-1:

http://www.goldenwestbrass.com/GoldenWest/GoldenWestWEB/BULLETS.htm

Of course, I was a rangemaster for about 10 years, so brass was really cheap.

That's the first time I've ever heard of anybody getting scared of dinged brass. The resizing die will take care of that "D" shaped case mouth, no problem.

I have a neat firing range brass catcher that's basically a mosquito net which sits off the right and front of my AK variants.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. :D

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