What do you think of this K98 ?


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soul_rapier
January 2, 2007, 08:49 PM
I got this off a buddy of mine what do you guys think ? Did i get a good deal i got it for $270 .Its got nazi markings on the action and on the barrel.

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American By Blood
January 2, 2007, 08:54 PM
I got this off a bubby of mine what do you guys think ? Did i get a good deal i got it for $270 .Its got nazi markings on the action and on the barrel.

It looks like a k98. To tell much about what condition it's in we'd need to see some close-ups, preferrably shot under better lighting. You managed to pay less than Mitchell's Mausers would have charged you, so that's at least something.

By the way, Google the term "bubbe" to discover the irony in your typo made while referring to a Nazi-produced rifle.

soul_rapier
January 2, 2007, 09:08 PM
I hope these are a little better

Jim K
January 2, 2007, 09:15 PM
It is a K.98k, the standard WWII German service rifle. It looks to be in good shape, but I can't tell if it was refinished. If not, and if the numbers match, you have a rifle worth a lot more than you paid for it. K.98k's are in demand, but most of those on the market were captured by the Russians, and are now being sold by Russia after being rebuilt and refinished. Ones in good original condition are usually WWII GI bringbacks and are highly sought after.

Jim

soul_rapier
January 2, 2007, 09:26 PM
All the numbers match even the stock and bolt

MSGT9410
January 2, 2007, 09:58 PM
Are the serial numbers the original stampings, or have do they appear to have been 'forced matched' via an electro-pencil?

To my understanding, Russian armories would use electro-pencils to scribe serial numbers onto the parts in order for them to match up.

soul_rapier
January 2, 2007, 10:04 PM
electro-pencils? i never have seen that before i am new to bolt actions i am more of a ak and ar man myself it looks like original stamped like my sks's

rugbyer81
January 2, 2007, 10:10 PM
My 98k looks exactly like yours, and I paid $270 for it as well, so I believe you got a fair price. I see the cleaning rod and sight hood are missing, which was the same on mine when I got it as well. I think I read on some other thread that the russians took these out to melt down into their much-needed wartime metal. I ordered replacements and the two locking screws that were missing also, but none of this is essential. Good rifle anyway that I believe is a fair price with all the history in it.

RockyMtnTactical
January 2, 2007, 10:10 PM
I'd love to get one of those.

I just picked up a Yugo M24/47 just today and spent a couple hours cleaning it up.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/mwirig79/YugoMauser.jpg

I love Mausers!!

rugbyer81
January 2, 2007, 10:14 PM
Haha thats funny because I was thinking to myself the other day how i'd love to get a Yugo.

MRIman
January 2, 2007, 10:14 PM
Nice Yugo!!!!
I like all my Yugo mausers,but my 24/47 the most.

MRI

Geno
January 2, 2007, 10:20 PM
I just turned green with envy.

Doc2005

garanddaddy
January 2, 2007, 10:36 PM
Big 5 is selling the Yugo's for $99.00 I got one and 2 M38's Brother in law bought 6 Yugo's and is going to display them

RockyMtnTactical
January 2, 2007, 10:43 PM
That's where I got mine. Big 5.

byf43
January 2, 2007, 10:44 PM
You have what appears to be a RC (Russian Capture) K98k, from the condition of the bluing on the receiver (red tint) and the red shellac finish on the stock.
Out of curiousity, what is the code on the top of the front ring of the rifle?
This will tell a LOT about your rifle.



Here is what mine looks like after cleaning it up.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/byf43/Mauser%20folder/byf43Mauser.jpg

This rifle was in the same basic condition as yours, when I took posession of it.
If you look at the forward end of the stock, where the band is, you will see where a piece of the stock had to be glued back in. The stock was 'repaired' by the Russians, apparently, and the glue disolved when I was cleaning the stock. The piece is now epoxied in place, and I don't expect it to ever come back out.
(Better living through chemistry!!)

This rifle will shoot 1-1/2 to 2" groups at 100 yds with Yugo '70s surplus ammo off of a 'Bulls Bag' (IF I do my part!!!).

Cost of my byf43 K98k. . . . $219.00

alamo
January 2, 2007, 10:51 PM
Great looking rifle. What did you do to the stock? I assume denatured alcohol to remove the shellac. Then what?

Soulrider
January 2, 2007, 11:01 PM
Picked up this unissued 48 a couple years ago for 140, ammo was so cheap that with the gun and 1500 rounds of 8mm for under 300 I figured it was good for alot of cheap shooting for a long time to come.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/ennairem/yugo.jpg

byf43
January 2, 2007, 11:03 PM
Thanks. I did a LOT of work on it.

I first started with 3M Safe Strip to remove a lot of the shellac.
Then, denatured alcohol.
Then 'Greased Lightning'.
This stock was virtually dripping oil and crud from every nook and cranny. Literally.

I wound up using 'Whiting' from Brownell's to pull some more of the oil out, then several more 'doses' of 'Whiting' after rinsing and drying.
The 'Whiting' is mixed with Acetone to make a paste, then brushed liberally onto the stock.

To make a long story a little shorter, I used NO sandpaper or steel wool on this stock. Scotchbrite pads only. Three different grades.

Where the Waffenamps (sp???) are, there is NO rubbing with the pads.

Final touch to the stock was 5 handrubbed and buffed coats of Johnson's Paste Wax.

(I think) this rifle is nice looking. . . but. . . a buddy of mine has a couple of them that are absolutely gorgeous!!!

Again, thank you for the kind words.

soul_rapier
January 3, 2007, 12:32 AM
I think i got the right code off it (BCD) on it and a 4 . i have no clue if thats the code you are talking about . i dont know nothing about these rifles but i do know they shoot very good

MikeH
January 3, 2007, 01:21 AM
bcd is the factory code for Gustloff-Werke, Weimar. If I'm not mistaken, 4 means it was made in 1944.

I have one made in the same place, same vintage. Well, at least the receiver and the barrel were. :neener:

Dr.Rob
January 3, 2007, 02:13 AM
If it's not electro-penciled, and indeed the numbers match, congrats you got a great deal. Even if its not '100%', that bayonet is worth $60 or more, if that came with the rifle for that price, GREAT for you.

Now, the stock looks like it needs a cleaning and it appears to me that the wood around the stock reinforcing bolt is gouged, like someone who didn't know what they were doing tried to remove it.

I'd suggest taking the action out of the stock and giving it a good cleaning. (If it's got shellac that's bubbled or flaked, you can strip it off with an orange based varnish remover and a 3m scrubber) Give it a good srcub in heated boiled linseed oil/turpentine mix... you can use a nylon brush and it won't mar the wood but gets all the old sticky cosmo and such off.

Not all 98K's came with front sight hoods or cleaning rods.

The story of un-bubba-ing a Mauser that came my way:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=232387

soul_rapier
January 3, 2007, 08:44 PM
i got a bid on gunbroker for the hood . yeah the bayonet came with the gun and 500 rounds too

byf43
January 3, 2007, 11:02 PM
soul_rapier:
i got a bid on gunbroker for the hood . yeah the bayonet came with the gun and 500 rounds too


Here's a vendor that I have used many times. Why bid a possible enormous price on a front sight hood (on eBay), when these fine folks have the ORIGINAL item for $7.00!?!?!?!?!?

http://ssporters.com/parts/98%20Mauser.htm

Ian Sean
January 3, 2007, 11:45 PM
Final touch to the stock was 5 handrubbed and buffed coats of Johnson's Paste Wax.


byf43, Yours looks great! Thanks for the tip on the wax. I have a RC byf-44, stock after stripping is pretty much in the white now, currently raising dents (steam iron technique) wondering how I am gonna finish this thing. Going to try the wax.

I have a 42 I did in tung oil and it came out pretty, but I want to try something different. The 42 looked like soul_rapier's when I started, darned Russkies and their shellac!:)

soul_rapier
January 4, 2007, 12:40 AM
man i wish i had that link before i bidded on gun broker im paying 2 times that now :banghead:

Ian Sean
January 4, 2007, 02:23 AM
soul, I guess I shouldn't tell you that Numrich has aftermarket ones for $5.60

http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=48040&chrSuperSKU=&MC=

It is aftermarket (not original) they require a little filing for proper fit, but looks fine on my 98.

byf43
January 4, 2007, 06:19 AM
soul rapier wrote:

man i wish i had that link before i bidded on gun broker im paying 2 times that now


All you had to do is ask.
Fortunately for me, my shooting buddy has several K98k Mausers, and has dealt with a bunch of different vendors.

If you aren't the high bidder on the hood(s), let them pass and go to on of the vendors that have been listed here.

For what it's worth, I bid on a 'correct' stock for my byf43 a couple of years ago.
The bidding got near what I paid for the rifle. That is when you have to ask yourself, "Is this worth it? Will this make my rifle 'correct'? Will I be satisfied with the results?"
If any of these are "NO". . . walk away from it.

I then stumbled onto a 'correct' stock for less than $100 and I jumped on it.
It's in my workshop now, waiting for me to give it some 'attention.'

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