Any serious coyote hunters here?


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marksman13
January 3, 2007, 04:33 AM
Just curius if anyone here hunts coyotes in the Southeast. Some friends and I have recently decided to take up the sport. Only problem is we don't really know a damn thing about it, and it's become pretty obvious. Been using an electronic call at night (perfectly legal here), and a spotlight with a red filter lens. Coyotes (and we know that they are there, we hear them all the time) won't respond to anything we throw at them. Anybody else here hunt them at night? If so, what works for you? Thanks in advance.

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gunslinger15
January 3, 2007, 01:05 PM
When yote hunting at night you need to find the places with the most availability of food for the yotes ,and that is where you need to set up to call. I dont like the electrics I prefer an old fashion distressed rabit call. I usualy set up in the corners of wheat fields or where ever im seeing the most rabbits. I use a spotlight without any filter on it, I found that the filter limited efective range of the beam tmo.

islandphish
January 3, 2007, 03:15 PM
I just started coyote hunting recently too. We went out in early morning and tried using the vehicle radio to call them with mp3's, and we also went out and hid really well and tried calling with rabbit in distress calls. Didn't have any luck.

The area I am in doesn't have the big feed fields but there are big tracts of grass. Next time out we may concentrate on calling the grass and see what happens.

Anyone have any advice?

What would be you guys' #1 choice of a coyote call? Is it distress calls or coyote imitator calls that work?

Thanks

Art Eatman
January 3, 2007, 05:05 PM
Coyotes will come to the sound of a call, but will veer off and make the final approach into the wind. They trust their noses more than eyes or ears.

So, you have to set up either to see them coming in before they veer (such as looking across an open field), or else set up where they're forced more into a crosswind approach. Terrain or vegetation; some sort of natural control.

You can use a cassette deck and long wires for setting a speaker out some fifty or so feet away, crosswind from your position, just as one idea.

When there's a lot of moon, I like to call during that last hour before full dark, or beginning at first shooting light in the morning.

Art

islandphish
January 3, 2007, 05:57 PM
well i'm headed out tomorrow morning for sure. And with the big moon maybe we'll start calling a touch earlier.

280PLUS
January 3, 2007, 07:33 PM
I'm slowly getting into this myself. I read an idea in a "How To" book where you take a decoy that looks like a fawn and stick it out at the edge of a field during the springtime where you know there's activity. I guess you could include a fawn call as well. You could wire the decoy for sound! Coincidentally enough the wife just told me to dispose of the Santa and reindeer lawn ornaments we've had for years. I'm thinking with a few mods and some paint one of those plastic reindeer would look pretty much like a fawn. So I tell her this. She gives me that funny look we probably all know. I say, "You gave me the book, if your going to give me these books you better be prepared for the consequences." :p

Art, how about scent attractants? I was thinking if I could make my fawn decoy smell delicious as well as look that way my chances are going up. Got any suggestions?

Greybeard
January 3, 2007, 09:42 PM
Art must be nappin' just now, so I'll give ya his probable answer. ;) Tablescraps.

My suggestion: Canned Old Roy, or sardines if ya got money to burn - and time to wait 'em out.

Bob R
January 3, 2007, 10:00 PM
Come on over to www.predatormasters.com , we don't bite, and love to help newcomers to the sport. If you can think of a question, odds are it will get answered.

bob

SUBMOAS
January 3, 2007, 11:38 PM
If your hearing the yotes they are most likely howling and doing locating calls to other yotes in the pack.

IMO: You have to remember that these animals are pack animals and have there own territories. Being that they are pack animals my most successful call is the pup-in-distress. I have had more yotes come and killed on that call then anything else.
Another would be a howl, howl back at them. Tell them your coming into there area. They will come and investigate.
When you using a Jackrabbit or Cottontail call make sure that that is the food in that area.
Take a squeaker call and velcro it to your forend. Place it where your left had rest. This will allow you to call/stop a yote while you have him in your scope. You will have the yote in full view and when you squeak hopefully he will stop and you have the crosshairs on him.
Hope this helps....:)

gdvan01
January 4, 2007, 12:25 AM
Take a squeaker call and velcro it to your forend.I had to read this twice....I thought it said "forehead". :p

Bob R
January 4, 2007, 12:41 AM
I thought it said "forehead".

I sure am glad I am not the only one who thought that! :D

bob

marksman13
January 4, 2007, 05:32 AM
I thought it said forhead at first too. I thought I had a bonified smart ass on my hands. LOL!!! Thanks for that tip though SUBMOA. Sounds like something I should try.

280PLUS
January 4, 2007, 07:55 AM
Well, silly as it may sound, I was thinking of smearing the decoy with something like peanut butter or honey to mask the paint/plastic smell and maybe cause them to pause a bit at the decoy before they figure out it isn't real and bolt. I'd like to watch them a bit before I start shootin'. :D

Art Eatman
January 4, 2007, 12:54 PM
Baiting with tablescraps definitely works, but it means a lengthy sittin' session, generally. I'm generally gone to bed when they come through my front yard to play mobile garbage disposal.

About 40 years ago, my uncle got one of the first electronic callers. Wounded rabbit tape. The first time he cranked it up, it sounded like a 400-pound rabbit. Uncle Joe didn't quite have the volume control figured out.

Five of us were riding around the pasture in an old WW II Jeep. Fortunately, only one rifle. We stopped and Uncle Joe fired up the squaller. He finally was persuaded to turn it down to maybe only a 50-pound rabbit.

A fox came out of the brush, looking for supper. The fox ran around the jeep and then under it, barking mightily and circling about.

"Shoot 'im! Shoot im!" "Where is he?" "Over here!" "No, he's under the Jeep!" "Dammit, don't shoot the Jeep!" "He's ove rhere!" "Who's got the rifle?" "Shoot 'im!" "Oh, dammit!" Etc.,etc.

The fox finally gave up and left, supperless. We were foxless. My wife and I were about gut-busted from laughing...

Art

ScottsGT
January 4, 2007, 01:25 PM
Coincidentally enough the wife just told me to dispose of the Santa and reindeer lawn ornaments we've had for years. I'm thinking with a few mods and some paint one of those plastic reindeer would look pretty much like a fawn.

Hey 280PLUS,
Is that one of those Santas and reindeer that Chevy Chase kickes the crap out of on Christmas Vacation? I'd love to buy it from you if your getting rid of it! I love the old "tacky looking" holiday decorations! Cannot stand all the new blowup fan powered things out now.
Still waiting to buy my leg lamp though.................

280PLUS
January 4, 2007, 03:45 PM
LOL, yes I think they are. I'd want to keep at least one reindeer for myself. I'll post a pic somewhere if you really are interested. I would have a Santa in his sleigh and 2 reindeer to let go if they're really what you want.

As far as using food / scraps. I'd only use them in conjuction with the decoy and call, just to get them to hang around a bit if they actually do come. I went to that predator masters site too. Very good stuff there. Found calls you can download and everything. Lot's of reading on coyote hunting too.

marksman13
January 4, 2007, 04:22 PM
I think I'm gonna use some deer trimmings tonight since I have been processing the Bathroom Window Buck over the past few days. I was throwing the leftovers away last night when genius struck. Hopefully the smell of fresh venison is as appealing to yodel dogs as it is to me.

280PLUS
January 5, 2007, 11:13 AM
Good luck, BTW nice sig line. Sage advice and from a Drill Sgt yet. :D

redneck2
January 6, 2007, 09:32 PM
Coyotes have incredible sense of smell. They will pick up a track where you walked to a stand a few days later. If they smell your food, they'll smell you. They almost always come in downwind.

There are a few real good videos by Byron South..."Calling in the Thick Stuff". Thing I like is he really gets into the "how to" rather than just showing endless kills but not telling how he did it.

Try the Coyote Gods website.

HTH

chuckmo
January 16, 2007, 12:56 AM
Here in MO, we have coyotes come in to our turkey decoys and calling about as often as gobblers! Try a hen decoy and some clucks. If that's legal, of course.

Kimber1911_06238
January 16, 2007, 01:01 AM
my best coyote tactic so far has been sitting in my deer stand with my bow...when the coyotes run past me at 15 yards I stop them with a squeak and whack 'em :neener:

EricTheBarbarian
January 19, 2007, 01:03 PM
I am curious about what you do with coyotes when you shoot them. Do you just shoot them because they are a nuisance or are they good for anything? BTW i would like to start coyote hunting and would like to know if they are good for anything or just fun to hunt

marksman13
January 19, 2007, 01:56 PM
We shoot them because they are a nuisance. Many people skin them and save the pelts. A healthy coyote makes a beautiful pelt. Mange is becoming a big poblem around here. All three of the yodel dogs we killed recently showed signs of the disease.

mete
January 19, 2007, 07:26 PM
Now in Norwood NJ they hate coyotes .A pack of coyotes lives there and now has committed the unpardonable sin of eating ,not just a dog , but a Bichon Frise !!!

bluetopper
January 19, 2007, 09:54 PM
All the years of my upbringing my Dad always kept from 20-40 coyote hounds and we would meet up with other hunters who had hounds just before dark and build a campfire. Shortly after dark they would turn 3 or 4 "jump" dogs out to find a yote and after they found one and got him started running the hunters would then turn the rest of their hounds loose after them. One of the most exhilerating sounds you'll ever hear is a large pack of foxhounds giving mouth and running hard after a wide running coyote on a cold clear still night.

North Texan
January 22, 2007, 01:31 AM
I try to set up where I can see as far downwind as possible. Most of the ones I've called in don't come close enough for me to see them until they are downwind. This isn't always the case, but it is more times than not.

When using coyote vocalizations, howling is good for locating them, but once located, you need to seal the deal with a challenge howl or interrogation howl. Challenge them to defend their territory. And if you have one responding, respond back to him with the same type howl.

If you want to see foxes or bobcats, don't use howls or they won't come in. Use prey distress calls. Rabbits and woodpeckers are the most common, but sometimes it pays to be different. I've used prairie dog, vole, raccoon, goat, sheep, and even kitten distress calls. I had one spot that about drove me nuts. A coyote would come out and bark at me well out of my effective range, and a couple times it even led other coyotes coming to my call away. When I changed to a call it probably hadn't heard before, that same coyote came into shooting range to investigate. Even if you don't have those animals, those calls will still work. If it sounds edible and distressed, predators will come.

B.D. Turner
January 22, 2007, 10:12 AM
Just about 10 min. ago my male chow(Buddy)/sheperd mix was barking up a storm. This is a dog that never barks at much of anything and if he does bark something is wrong. I walked to the door to take a look. There in the corner of the yard stood a large coyote. I went bonkers! I ran through the house yelling coyote! coyote! there is one in the yard!(will explain later) I grabbed the Marlin 1894 .44 and ran for the door levering it as I went. When I opened the door Buddy took it as an invitation to get the coyote and charged him. Buddy chased him about 120 yards. I was afraid to fire because of Buddy being litterly on his tail. The coyote made a left turn and opened the distance a little and I took my first shot. When I fired Buddy pealed off and let me have him. I was leading him too much but was able to turn him in a complete circle by putting bullets at his nose and front feet. The coyote made a big circle and came back toward the house. I continued to fire until he ran past the house and I couldn't see him. I went around to the back yard but he had made it back into the woods.
I had heard of coyotes in eastern N.C. but in all of my years I had never seen one. I always thought these were just campfire stories and that these folks were just seeing foxes or a wild dog. I will never doubt that we do have large healthy coyotes here in eastern NC. Thanks for letting me share this with yall. Last Monday I also saw a lone bald eagle while working. Now if we only had elk this would be paradise.

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