230 Golden Sabre and Clays
hooks
January 3, 2007, 08:06 AM
Anyone have a favorite load for 230 grain Golden Sabre's and Clays? I did a search and couldn't find anything so sorry if this has been covered before.:)
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The Amigo
January 3, 2007, 08:17 AM
http://stevespages.com/page8f.htm hope this helps.:)
JDGray
January 3, 2007, 09:07 AM
I shoot alot of clays in my 45, and I dont think you'll get enough velocity out of it, to be effective. I would get the data on Rems site,and try to match it, fps wise. Clays is great for paper punching, but not for a practice defence load.:)
Walkalong
January 3, 2007, 09:58 AM
I assume with the GS you are looking for good velocity and not target velocity. I would recommend AA#5, but others may suggest something else. There are other medium to slow powders which will do a good job. I just have had good luck with AA#5. I also shott AA#2 for medium velocities.
http://www.accuratepowder.com/data/PerCaliber2Guide/Handgun/Standarddata/45Cal(11.5mm)/45%20ACP%20pages%20137%20to%20139%20revised.pdf
I also like Universal Clays for the .45
http://www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/45acp.php
hooks
January 3, 2007, 10:37 AM
I have VV310 at home, how about this powder? Thanks for your help guys..:)
Walkalong
January 3, 2007, 10:43 AM
N 310 is too fast for good velocities with the 230 Golden Saber. It is excellent for target velocities, however.
You need a medium to slow powder.
Some where from around Universal Clays to AA # 7 on Hodgdens burn rate chart.
http://www.hodgdon.com/data/general/burnratechart.php
hooks
January 3, 2007, 12:08 PM
o.k. thanks guys..
JDGray
January 3, 2007, 02:09 PM
Universal or HS6, is what I use for top end 45 loads. 6.0 universal gives 850+ velocity with 230gr fmj:) Load safe!
hooks
January 3, 2007, 08:17 PM
You da man JD, thanks for the load data!!:)
HSMITH
January 3, 2007, 08:32 PM
Power Pistol will make ANY sane velocity you want in 45.
ocharry
January 3, 2007, 08:34 PM
i like 6.4 grs. universal and a lead 200gr. round nose flat point... not to hot and hits hard.. my .02 YMMV
ocharry
treebeard
January 3, 2007, 08:59 PM
I just ordered some Clays so thanks for this thread to help me get going with it. :D :D
JDGray
January 3, 2007, 10:02 PM
Treebeard, Clays is very clean, soft recoiling powder. I found 3.8-3.9gr to be the most accurate in my P345, shooting 230gr Rainiers. OAL 1.250, .470 Lee Factory Crimp, 730fps.:)
treebeard
January 3, 2007, 10:18 PM
Cool. I got all kinds of bullets to load up once I get my delivery. I have been using Unique, Bullseye and Titegroup for about a year now so I want to try something different. I have some 230gr. LRN and some Berry's 230gr. RN to try out.
Mark whiz
January 3, 2007, 11:05 PM
My best load with 230gr Golden Sabres is with 8.5gr AA#5 at an OAL of 1.245".
This is good for 820fps and 2.5" groups at 15yds.
I've not used Clays, But I've tried a lot of Universal Clays with different bullets and was never impressed with it with the heavier 230gr bullets - but it works ok with some 200gr bullets.
This is out of my standard Springfield 1911-A1 Mil-Spec.
Steve C
January 4, 2007, 12:37 AM
I've loaded some 230gr GS using 6.3grs of Unique and Remington 2-1/2 primer in Remington cases and they chrono'd at 863 fps average from my both my Colt Government 1991a1 and Combat Commander. Unique has delivered some of the best velocities in the .45 acp and .38 spl. with published loads in these medium pressure cartridges.
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