How accurate are you with your WASR 10?


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Juna
January 3, 2007, 09:18 AM
Title says it all. I've heard varying reports about WASR 10 accuracy. Just curious what some THR folks' experiences are with them.

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GreenFurniture
January 3, 2007, 09:39 AM
They are what they are. If anyone can get a tight group at 100 yards they're obviously cheating.

MechAg94
January 3, 2007, 09:56 AM
My WASR-2 groups in the 4" range or better when I tried it out at 100 yards. It was pretty accurate for what it was. Stock sights, no cheating. :) It has some reliability problems I have to work on though.

Of course, that ain't quite the same as the WASR 10.

rbernie
January 3, 2007, 10:08 AM
Offhand with Wolf, silhouette accuracy. From a bench with Wolf, 8" groups or better (with the average around 5"). From a bench with high quality ammo, 4" or better (with the average around 3").

armoredman
January 3, 2007, 11:24 AM
Going back Friday to accurize the red dot on the WASR, to see if I can keep it all on paper at 100 yards. Not the most accurate firearm I ever dealt with.:rolleyes:

the naked prophet
January 3, 2007, 12:51 PM
Most accurate, no. With high quality ammo, I do get about 3 inch groups at 100 yards from an improvised bench. Wolf, not so much.

PvtPyle
January 3, 2007, 01:48 PM
I would ask, how accurate do you need to be? If you bought it as a DMR you got taken. But if you can hit the iron maiden at 200-300 regularly you and the rifle are doing pretty good. That is within the specs for the rifle and average Russian conscript.

Juna
January 3, 2007, 04:06 PM
I would ask, how accurate do you need to be?

I'm thinking hitting the silhouette is all you need to do. COM is a plus. Even if you get shot in the leg with a 7.62x39, I'm doubting you'd be able to do much after that. It's not like it's a .22 LR.

Prince Yamato
January 3, 2007, 04:33 PM
It does what it does. The option wasn't on there, but I hit the metal silhouette at 200+ yards with fair consistancy (iron sights). It doesn't matter where in your torso you're shot, you probably won't be getting up regardless.

WinchesterAA
January 3, 2007, 04:42 PM
100yds isn't far enough out.. I go up to my uncles house every now and then and he has targets out to 1500yards.

I shoot at 5ftx5ft square carboard targets @ 500-600yards if it'd been a person he'da been injured many many times.

Still 2 Many Choices!?
January 3, 2007, 04:47 PM
I can usually(when I was shooting it ALOT) group in the 1" to 1.5" range at 50. SOO I guess If the target has good contrast like a ,"shoot and see", I see no problem with 3-4" groups at 100. Of course you didn't have " 2-4 groups", as an option but I voted for the top one any way:neener: !! Of course I found that my accuracy with the WASR 10 improved about 800% after I adjusted my sights:uhoh: :D !

rchernandez
January 3, 2007, 05:16 PM
My WASR-10 is "meant" to be effective against man-sized targets up to 150yards...beyond that I'm pulling out the .308;)


If I wanted greater accuracy from a ak-type, I'd go for a vepr or an arsenal unit.

Gewehr98
January 3, 2007, 05:17 PM
Which is just fine for a stamped semi-auto AK variant.

My Bulgarian SLR-95 will quite easily put 5 rounds inside 2" at 100 yards. The pictures of the groups are somewhere here on THR or TFL.

Wolf or ChiCom steel-cased surplus will open up groups for both rifles, but that's the old adage, "Garbage in, garbage out".

I'll have to invite GreenFurniture along someday when he's feeling particularly skeptical about AK accuracy. ;)

Juna
January 3, 2007, 08:49 PM
My WASR-10 is "meant" to be effective against man-sized targets up to 150yards...beyond that I'm pulling out the .308

If I wanted greater accuracy from a ak-type, I'd go for a vepr or an arsenal unit.

Agreed. I bought mine b/c I wanted a reliable SHTF rifle that's fun at the range & not too expensive to shoot in case/before they attempt a new AWB. If they don't, I'll be getting an AR 15 as my next one (couldn't afford one yet).

I have yet to take my WASR-10 to the range, but I'm not expecting the awesome groups I got with the Bushmaster XM15 I rented based on what I've heard here. I'll post a range report after I get out there.

possum
January 5, 2007, 12:27 AM
a little off topic but i don not have a wasr, but last weekend i shot my mak-90 out at 200yds which is the longest i have shot it out to and i was very pleased with the out come. from the prone with wolf 122gr full metal jackets, shooting at an e-type shilloute out of 20rds i had 3 misses right outside the black , 6 rds in the 5 zone, 5rds in the 4 zone and 6rds in the shoulder/ 3 zone on the right side. i was pretty darned pleased with it.

The_Shootist
January 5, 2007, 01:09 AM
...but how aacuarate do you really have to be? I bought my WASR10 after Katrina not for long range target practice, but the expectation of using it in a street fight at 50 yds (or shorter).

Mine's plenty accurate enough for that kind of a post-hurricane urban combat setting.

HiroProX
January 5, 2007, 02:19 AM
It's minute-of-bad guy accurate up to 200 yards. It's what it's designed for and it does it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Eightball
January 5, 2007, 02:38 AM
I'd be more accurate if I didn't have monkey-arms; anyone know of a good american-sized stock set for one of these puppies? As it sits, the LOP is about 3 inches too short :banghead:

iamkris
January 5, 2007, 08:32 AM
There's plenty of longer stock sets. Try www.k-var.com

AK103K
January 5, 2007, 09:08 AM
The standard AK LOP is exactly the same as the M16/M16A1 and most other combat rifles.

The AK's are also a little more accurate in real life than most will give them credit for. Its usually not the guns fault if you cant shoot it. ;)

This was shot with a lowly SAR, one which has a little sight cant, at 200 yards using the open sights and Wolf 154 grain SP's. I get basically the same results with the lighter Barnaul SP's. The lower group was from a bench to confirm zero, the upper from a cross legged sitting position. My WASR is more accurate than my SAR, and shoots right up there with my Krebs AK103K.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pcb6d9762c6b9371579d52961301a68ab/ece2f3d2.jpg

Kreb's 14" barreled AK103K, with Aimpoint at 100, offhand.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid161/p683a1e5da8f7b9364cfadf2434c0f3ae/f4c14dde.jpg

and sitting...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid136/pb76a73ead1b5151502b25ce58a079bba/f7534b66.jpg

The Aimpoints do bring the AK's right up to speed with the AR's, and any other dot sighted rifle. They really are the only way to go for any of these type rifles. Even the AK's (and most hunting rifles) open sights are not all that bad, and I actually prefer them for fast, close range shooting over most peeps. A peep is nice for target and deliberate, long range shooting, but can suck for fast close up shooting, or if you have the sun lower at your back, where they can be about useless.

countryrebel
January 6, 2007, 01:45 PM
If I do my part with a steady rest and good trigger control I can get 3" groups at 100.

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