The best carry for CCW- Barami Hip-Grip ?


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Georg of Ohio
January 3, 2007, 11:34 AM
I am always looking for the best way to carry my Cheif,s Special 38( I will not carry any thing smaller than a 38 and it have to be a revoler), I am now looking at the Barami Hip-Grip. Have any one ever used one and what do you think about them. What kind of holster would you suggest for CCW.

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dpote
January 3, 2007, 11:53 AM
I will be watching this thread, because I am also interested in the Barami Hip-Grip.
As for holsters, I love my Mika (http://www.frontiernet.net/~akim/) Pocket holster.

Dave

tackleberi
January 3, 2007, 12:10 PM
I absolutely LOVE my Barami Hip Grip; it's convenience is immeasurable. I used one for my Models 60 and 940; another guy I shoot with has been carrying a Model 60 on and off-duty (back-up) with the Hip Grip for many years. Although I have since gotten rid of my J-frames (moment of weakness; I'm looking for a 940 as we speak), I am actively searching for a 940 with the express purpose of again having a Hip Grip equipped gun.

Although I have never had the gun slip off my waistband or the like, keep in mind that this is not as secure as a belt-loop/thumb break type set-up. That said, with a decent belt, the Hip Grip sticks the gun in your waistband nice and tight.

My only concern is that installation of the Hip Grip can interfere with the use of other holsters, so you may need to dedicate your Hip Grip gun to that mode of carry. My Hip Grip equipped gun was not able to be carried in a Galco USA holster, nor did it seat well in my wife's Coronado purse holster. Perhaps other brands may accommodate the Hip Grips; check this out if multiple holsters is an important consideration to you.

In short, I strongly recommend the Hip Grip, to the extent I'm willing to spend $300-$400 to get another gun to equip with them. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

isp2605
January 3, 2007, 02:32 PM
My Mod 49 which is my "stick in the pants to run to the store gun" wears a Barami. I tried the ClipDraw and didn't care for the way it carried. With the Clip Draw the gun kept trying to ride out. The Barami rides lower and more secure.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c125/ispcapt/guns/49.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c125/ispcapt/guns/BARAMI.jpg

crazyhorse
January 3, 2007, 02:49 PM
Only problem I see is body moisture. If you fail to rub down with oily cloth every night, your sweat could, if ignored long enough, could cause rusting.

That said, how good does it ride when bending, sitting, reaching, etc?

Kor
January 3, 2007, 11:49 PM
I regularly CCW a nickel-plated S&W 442 Airweight Centennial with Barami Hip-
Grips and a Tyler T-grip adapter. Naturally, with the nickel finish perspiration has no effect on the gun, but I usually wear a "wife-beater" T-shirt under the gun to keep most of the sweat off, and also to keep some of the edges and corners on the cylinder from irritating me. I've tried wearing the gun against bare skin, and the T-shirt underneath makes a very noticeable difference for me.

I go with the Hip-Gripped J-frame whenever I want the absolute minimum "signature" in a CCW gun - with Hip-Grips, the gun rides at a much more canted angle than most IWB holsters on the market, so much so that the serial # on the bottom of the grip-frame points nearly straight up at the ceiling. Since the grip points straight up along your side, instead of backwards, it doesn't "print" or bulge at all. isp2605's picture shows this perfectly. I personally prefer the off-white color for the Hip-Grips, as I feel it is less noticeable against my skin/undershirt than black grips, in case my shirt happens to ride up. It's still a good idea to follow the usual CCW suggestions like "Don't reach up with your gun-side hand" and "Kneel instead of bending at the waist."

The downside to the extreme cant angle is that you have to kind of squeeze your fingers in between the grip and your body when drawing, and sort of "pluck" the gun out of your waistband; this draw is noticeably slower than from any good, open-top belt holster. I've also got a BlackHawk CQC Leather Speed Classic holster made for J-frames, and it draws WAY faster. Of course, with nothing covering the trigger-guard, you've got to be CAREFUL when you insert the gun in your waistband.

I've only had the gun fall out of my pants once(at home) - because I didn't cinch my belt tight enough. With sufficient tension from your belt/waistband, the gun rides in perfect security and comfort, and does not shift or wander. We normally recommend a wide 1-1/2"+ belt to carry heavier handguns for 8-hour days, but a thin belt <1-1/4" will allow the belt to fit in-between the grip-hook and the rear edge of the cylinder, for even more security.

Another feature that I really like about Hip-Grips is that the "grip-hook" on the right-hand grip panel seems to act almost like a palm-swell for a right-handed shooter; it gives more surface area to contact your palm and distributes recoil more effectively, IMO.

With a Hip-Gripped gun, you don't have to mess with a holster when entering/leaving a "No Guns" building/area - just take the gun out and lock it in your car going in, and put it back in your waistband once you leave. It's a VERY low-profile, VERY flexible and PRETTY comfortable way to carry a gun with a REASONABLE degree of security and draw-speed. As you can probably tell, I think very highly of Hip-Grips on a J-frame.

field70
January 4, 2007, 10:32 AM
I am now looking at the Barami Hip-Grip.

Just one problem..If you are in Ohio, as your handle suggests, the Barami hip grip probably would not be within the law. The firearm must be "in a holster" if on your person. A traffic stop could create a problem. The Hipgrip is not a holster.

lanceman193
January 4, 2007, 01:00 PM
I carried a Model 38 nickle with Barami Hip Grip under my Pharmacy jacket for about 6 years.Excellent ! Now I am not allowed to carry at work.I usually carry
when I'm off work a 342 Airlite Ti in a Mika pocket holster.If I have to dress up then I just carry my Seecamp 32 in a KC pocket holster(It works for front and back pocket).Baramis are excellent and inexpensive.

DouglasW
January 4, 2007, 04:22 PM
I carried a Model 38 nickle with Barami Hip Grip under my Pharmacy jacket for about 6 years.Excellent ! Now I am not allowed to carry at work.

That's unfortunate your employer prohibits carry at work, lanceman...seems to me a pharmacy would be one of the most important places to allow employee CCW. As for Nickel 38s, I borrowed my brother's nickel "no dash" just last weekend. I've always leaned towards centennials for pocket carry...but now an older bodyguard is on my wishlist, too. :D

Back on topic...I might be picking up a second j-frame in the near future (if we can agree on price, its a .38 640-0) and, thanks to this thread, I'm thinking about making it a dedicated Barami hip-grip gun.

langenc
January 5, 2007, 10:58 AM
No one ever discusses the clipdraw. I have seen the birahmi (sp) and use the clipdraw. Clipdraw seems like it is MUCH more secure.

Try clipdraw.com

captdenden
January 5, 2007, 11:50 AM
I have had some type of barami hip grip J frame since the 1960's. They really don't fall down your leg and provide real concealment. I don't know if they are still available, but a white hip grip, and a stainless j frame just about disappears with a white shirt and suit coat. There is a smith 638 with a hip grip next to my keys right now.

hceptj
January 5, 2007, 12:01 PM
I use a clipdraw on my 642 and 360. I've worn the pistols on the waist and also in my boots. Never had a problem with anything slipping or getting loose. I really like them and highly recommend them to anyone.

I have one I rotate on some different 1911's and they work great on them also...the only time I don't use them is on the pistols with CT grips...it gets in the way of the laser.

The hip grip looks nice though...I'll probably order one to try out.

captdenden
January 6, 2007, 10:29 AM
P.S. If you really want to look like a Chicago "dick" from the 60's or 70's (when people still carried small snubs as their main gun) leave the small wooden checkered grip on your body side. This helps keep the gun from moving around.

saltydog452
January 6, 2007, 11:12 AM
The Birami Hip-Grip and Tyler grip adapter are good stuff. They both, collectively and individually, add to the versatility of a J fame.

salty.

Sixguncowboy
May 9, 2009, 08:39 PM
I have used a Barami Hip Grip on a Colt Det. Spc. for over 30 years and never had a single problem with it. But now I'm going to have to get a new set. I gave them to a fellow to Duracoat them in desert sand color because the black ones will show under some white or light color shirts. I got them back and they looked great.......................till I went to put them on the gun, then I found that they were cracked, warped & shrunk. :cuss: Don't ever do that. Just leave them the color they came from the factory. Which fortunately, an off white is available now.

I also have a Clipdraw on my Kimber Ultra CDP which I like. And yesterday I ordered the Universal Clipdraw for my Taurus PT 145. http://www.clipdraw.com/store/index....on=show_detail

The key to carrying any gun with a hip grip or Clipdraw is to wear a belt & make sure it's snug. For those who want to carry a revolver with a Clipdraw I would recommend the Universal RV clip. It's made differently than the standard revolver Clipdraw & won't drag on the cylinder.

The Lone Haranguer
May 10, 2009, 06:13 PM
I briefly used a Hip Grip on a S&W 640-1. It did what it was supposed to do, I just never warmed up to it. A stainless or rust-resistant-finished gun is recommended, since it is next to your skin, only separated by your undershorts. My biggest problem with it is that it gives too little to hold onto when actually shooting the gun. A grip adapter might have solved that.

Vern Humphrey
May 10, 2009, 07:17 PM
Only problem I see is body moisture. If you fail to rub down with oily cloth every night, your sweat could, if ignored long enough, could cause rusting.
That's the problem I have with them. I make my own holsters, and I like IWBs with leather between gun and body -- so no part of the gun touches the body.

When I finish boning the holster, I melt Sno Seal <tm> and rub it thoroughly into the leather -- from both sides. This sweat-proofs the holster, protects the gun, and makes the draw smoother.

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