[Donnywhiteman]

I have fired the pistol when I bought it, ran flawlessly, but now I noticed in doing some dry fire exercises, that the hammer does not seem to fall on to the back of the firing pin, (even with the clip in).

I even put a bit of foil on the backing of the firing pin and dry fired it, and it never touched it.

Is here something I am missing here, has some "drop safety block" or something broken?

If all is well, how in the world does the hammer falling cause a bullet to fire, if the hammer never touches the firing pin?

[Extremist]

Do the pencil test:

- UNLOAD
- UNLOAD/Clear
- Insert #2 Pencil Eraser first down the barrel onto the chamber face
- Point up
- Pull trigger
- If pencil doesn't move, you have a broken firing pin or something else blocking the firing pin

I've seen a Sig 228 before with the symptoms you describe. Broken firing pin.

James

[Skywarp]

It sits a little off the firing pin at rest. Try the pencil test

[gdvan01]

(even with the clip in).Not to sound like a d*ck, but it's a magazine...not a clip.

[Donnywhiteman]

Pencil test worked, even dented the eraser.

SO, how is this thing firing? Is it hitting that fast that I cant perceive it, and didn't hit the foil enough to damage it?

By the way (to whoever split hairs AND didn't bother to answer the question/troll), it IS a clip. If you were in the middle of a gunfight and someone yelled "toss me another clip!" I am sure you wouldn't stare at them as if they just yelled "hey throw me a dirty diaper".

Let us not get weird here, this isn't scent of a woman, and you ain't al pacino.

[pedaldude]

the hammer is moving quite fast at the moment before it hits the firing pin, also my 220 has some sort of drop safety where you can't push the hammer forward unless you're pulling on the trigger.

[BucksDC]

My 226 is the same way. I have always wondered how it fires, but it does. I don't think there is anything wrong with your pistol.
Have fun

[rbernie]

By the way (to whoever split hairs AND didn't bother to answer the question/troll), it IS a clip.By the way - it's NOT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_%28firearms%29).

Welcome to THR. :)

[enfield]

Does it have to be a #2 pencil?

[Extremist]

Does it have to be a #2 pencil?

Smarty pants :rolleyes:

Okay a writing device with a soft end. ;)

Or a stick, or whatever :scrutiny:

James

[hagar]

An M1 Garand has a clip. All the rest use magazines.

[Donnywhiteman]

I figured it out.

When the trigger is fully depressed, there is a block that disengages and the hammer can be pushed foward in to the firing pin while this block is lifted.

SO the hammer travels foward at such velocity that it goes beyond this spring that makes it protrude from the back of the gun and smashes the firing pin in to the bullet.

THEN this spring returns it back to the other position, with or without the trigger depressed, so that the block can engage and make it drop safe in the de-cocked position.

Quite the weird engineering when one is used to revolvers the 92fs or single action only pistols.

[HammerBite]

The P-series guns all have rebounding hammers. The hammer strut is stopped before the hammer has moved fully forward and the inertia of the hammer carries it the rest of the way. In the older P-series guns the strut is arrested just a bit before the hammer contacts the firing pin. In the newer P-series guns the strut is arrested just before the hammer's safety notch passes the sear and there is a hammer reset spring to pull the hammer back to the safety notch.

[270Win]

As an aside, when you've been around both types long enough (stripper clips, enbloc clips, pistol magazines, rifle magazines) it IS weird as hell to hear one called by the wrong name.

I always pause and shake my head when I hear some 'gangsta' on TV yell out "my clip is empty!" or whatever they say.

I'm glad you figured out your issue, though. Nice detective work!