Glock Or Sig
phantomak47
May 29, 2003, 09:08 PM
I know that everyone has their favorties, but for the money which is the better gun??
Glock 17 9mm Or Sig 226 9mm
I will be carrying one of these guns, even though I know they are a little large for carry, I drive though rural and urban places where concealing with a jacket will do
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Shmackey
May 29, 2003, 09:13 PM
Comes down to the trigger. Very different: Glock trigger vs. traditional DA/SA.
SouthpawShootr
May 29, 2003, 10:56 PM
Another factor to consider is that Sigs have a considerably higher bore axis than Glocks. You absolutely must shoot representatives of both before you buy. I carry either G26 or G19. I shoot them well enough, I have to work on the trigger a bit. Now, I have 3 S&W DAOs (by far heavier trigger pulls) that I 'm most accurate with. My Sigs are all accurate and reliable, but the recoil is noticably different from the Glock with the same ammunition.
capt_happypants
May 29, 2003, 11:21 PM
Well, it's more than just trigger pull
Frame:
Glock 17 - polymer
Sig P226 - alloy
Finish:
Glock 17 - Tenifer-treated steel
Sig P226 - Blued or K-Koted carbon steel (W. German production), Nitron finished (black) stainless steel or untreated stainless steel (Exeter, NH production)
Safeties:
Glock 17 - three internal, no externally operated
Sig P226 - three internal, no externally operated
Operation:
Glock 17 - trigger-cocking, DAO
Sig P226 - DA/SA with decocker, or DAO
Accessory Rail:
Glock 17 - yes, 3rd Generation models only
Sig P226 - recently added, older models no
I shoot the Glock 19 and the Sig P228, which are the compact versions of the 17/226. The Glock is somewhat easier to shoot, since I don't have to transition from DA to SA. However, the Sig's SA pull allows for more precise shot placement. The Sig has a higher bore axis than the Glock, and that creates more perceived muzzle flip.
Glocks are more tolerant of daily carry conditions. My 228 requires a light coat of oil for reliable functioning; I pretty much ignore my 19. The Tenifer finish on my Glock is damn-near indestructible. One month in a Kydex holster pretty much wrecked my West German Sig's finish (now it's in a leather DeSantis Speed Scabbard, but frankly, it looks like hell).
Glocks have an amazing range of holster options. You can get an inexpensive Uncle Mike's Kydex paddle holster for about $20, or drop $130 on a Galco Jackass Rig. Sig holster options are more limited.
If I was on a limited budget, go with the Glock. For CQB work, a Glock is more than accurate enough to put JHPs into the boiler room. If you have more cash to burn, consider the Sig. Either would work for CCW.
Kahr carrier
May 30, 2003, 12:34 AM
You cant go wrong with either one both are reliable.
Ala Dan
May 30, 2003, 12:47 AM
Both are excellent firearms; its just a matter of
preference! Be prepared to cough-up about
another $150 for a NIB SIG-Sauer "Classic"
series P-226!:uhoh: :D
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
DonGlock26
May 30, 2003, 10:35 AM
If cost is a factor, get a used Glock-17 and replace all the springs if you wish. Glocks are easy to work on yourself. Check out www.glockmeister.com and www.glockfaq.com.
Handy
May 30, 2003, 10:47 AM
Your question is essentially "Camry or Maxima?" Both of these 9mm pistols have almost unreproachable reputations.
Both can be, and usually are, shot VERY well. Trigger and bore placement are different, but the bore height 'issue' on the Sig is greatly exaggerated as it is identical to most every other similar pistol (1911, USP, Ruger, etc.)
Personally, I think the 10 lbs. DA trigger on the Sig is an added margin of safety. For instance, I would carry a loaded Sig in my waistband, but not a loaded Glock.
I also think that you are getting more gun for your money with a Sig, being all metal. However, new 226 prices are really high these days.
Addressing price, used is always a good idea. With the Sig, I'd tend toward a lightly used one. With a Glock, I've never seen one that looked "too worn". So the Glock is probably a better deal used.
Reputation wise, 226s are used by many elite military units, and G17s are ubiquitous with LEOs. A strong recommendation for either.
Smoke
May 30, 2003, 10:53 AM
Sig. Get the Sig. Oh PLEASE get the Sig.
:D
Derek Zeanah
May 30, 2003, 10:54 AM
Like everyone else says, neither is a bad choice.
I've only owned Sig 228 and 229's, and don't have a lot of experience with the 226. Overall, I'd say that the Glock is a better carry weapon than the Sigs, due to its finish (scratches won't matter, and rust is a non-issue) and weight.
As far as shooting goes, I'm one of those who really favors the 1911 series of weapons. In comparison, the Glock doesn't have any "soul" at all, but it works well. I think I'd prefer a consistent trigger pull over a DA/SA trigger.
Glocks feel "sproingy" when you dry fire them in the store; they're much nicer when you're actually shooting them.
Curare
May 30, 2003, 10:59 AM
I've owned and fired many models of SIG and Glock over the past 10 years. I now prefer Glock for 3 reasons: consistent trigger pull, low bore axis, and ridiculous durability compared to the SIG. It's a well designed tool.
My favorite working handgun is a second generation G17.
If you want a range gun that can make you group like a better shooter, go with the P226. If you want to shoot quickly and consistently from first shoot to last, in competition or defense, go with Glock or a M1911.
10-Ring
May 30, 2003, 11:05 AM
Both will serve you well if you do your part & dedicate the time to properly train w/ your chosen firearm ;)
Graystar
May 30, 2003, 11:13 AM
They're both good guns for the money. Clearly, the answer is to have both ;)
cslinger
May 30, 2003, 11:19 AM
Well with Glock you get "PERFECTION" :barf:
With SIG you get "SNOB APPEAL" :barf:
I may not be perfect but I have lots of SNOB APPEAL. I am a SIG guy and prefer SIG to Glock.
Shoot both pick the one you are more comfortable with. I don't care for Glock triggers myself. Other than that, they are spectacular.
I can't see you being dissapointed with either one when it comes to mechanically doing what you ask of it.
Chris.
MJRW
May 30, 2003, 11:35 AM
Hmm, the question was "for the money which is a better gun." Since they are both reliable like sunset, as accurate as the shooter, and durable and you have stated no preference, I would have to say Glock. It is a less expensive gun. However, at this point in the price vs quality war, it is so close that it really should be determined by which you like better.
Boats
May 30, 2003, 12:52 PM
This year in that caliber I'd get the SIG for its cheaper full cap mag availability.
Next year, after September 14, 2004 anyways, I'd get the Glock, but only if they have repudiated ballistic fingerprinting and ceased playing lackey to the BATFE. Otherwise, it'd still be the SIG for me as they haven't back stabbed gun owners yet.
BigG
May 30, 2003, 02:32 PM
Either one will be a fine choice. I have the SIG 226 and it is the same size as the 45 ACP Model 220 and holds 15 rounds of 9mm. I think it is pretty large for a 9mm, but like everybody said it has an unimpeachable reputation, just as the Glock Model 17 has.
Berg01
May 30, 2003, 04:11 PM
I think it comes down to personal preference; I shoot a Sig P228, but I have a lot of shooting experience with a Glock 19. I would not trade my Sig for a comparable Glock, and the Glockers I know who don't already own both would not give up their Glocks for Sigs.
rauchman
May 30, 2003, 05:15 PM
Greetings,
As others have noted, both guns are excellent at what they do. I have a 226 and recently got a 2nd gen G19. I've never fired the G17. As someone noted earlier, the Glock is a great tool. It is entirely functional, accurate, and reliable. The Sig is the same thing with arguably more finess. Ergonomically, the 226 has to be one of the all time greats. I don't know if the same can be said of the G17. I would think for carry the Glock may be slightly better because of the weight factor. Some people see the Glocks trigger as too light for carry. I don't know. I don't have to deal with that since I live in NJ and carry isn't an option anyway. As others have suggested, you're best bet is to find a way to shoot both. Not just 5 or 10 rounds either. I would think a hundred or so rounds through both guns would give a decent idea of each.
Hope this helps.
Feanaro
May 31, 2003, 01:12 AM
I would go Glock and I don't even like Glock much.
Ian11
May 31, 2003, 04:09 AM
These two are always at the top for 9mm defense pistols. You really can't go wrong with either. It comes down to personal preference and I can't tell you which features you might prefer. Whichever you choose I'm guessing you'll practice with it a lot and that you'll have no problems acclimating it. They were designed and marketed as general issue weapons for military and police forces around the world. And along with the Beretta 92FS, the Glock 17 and SIG P226 can usually be found in the holsters of police officers, tactical teams, and soldiers.
If cost is a factor Glock 17 all the way. But the SIG P226 is the most accurate production 9mm (besides the H&K P7) I've ever shot or owned, at least for me. A pleasure to shoot and own.
As you can see from most of the replies here the SIG P226 and Glock 17 are highly respected. Never mind those contrarians. These are two modern classics.
denfoote
May 31, 2003, 05:34 AM
Oh Lordy Jesus!! I never thought I would hear myself utter these words!! Get the Sig!!!
Grrrrr-yuck Perfection...MY :cuss: !!!!!!!
HadEmAll
June 1, 2003, 10:43 PM
Money aside, I believe the Glock is better for carry, due to its better first shot trigger, the Sig better for the range. Either will work for both situations. It would be nice to have both.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
June 2, 2003, 10:47 AM
Having had both----the Sigs are gone--my Glocks are still here.
Nothing particularly wrong with Sigs---I just didn't like them and doubt if I'd ever buy another one.
The Glock does have some advantages over a Sig.
1. Consistant trigger pull
2. Far more indestructable and durable
3. Lower price
4. Lighter weight
Poohgyrr
June 2, 2003, 08:24 PM
Glock.:neener:
Tecolote
June 2, 2003, 11:03 PM
Both have legions of fans and their detractors. Try them both and decide which one you like.:)
Watchman
June 2, 2003, 11:06 PM
I hate Glocks. They are ugly. The triggers suck.
I carry a Sig. They have "sex" appeal...:neener:
GlocksRock
June 3, 2003, 12:31 PM
G17 all the way.:p
Mastrogiacomo
June 3, 2003, 12:50 PM
I love a Beretta but if I'm going to subject a gun to holster wear -- let it be a Glock. I care nothing for the looks and it's a great gun for the job. But for me though, it'd be a Glock 19 or 26.
Of course Sigs are great too but a wee bit more expensive. If you can fire both before you buy -- do so. It's the only reliable way to be sure.:)
45R
June 3, 2003, 01:34 PM
The 226 vs. a Glock....................................
The choice is easy.
Go with the 226 if you want a great overall gun.
Go with a Glock if you want a a carry gun. The 226 is a heavy iron.
Both are easy to field strip and take care of. Working on both guns is a peice of cake. Shoot them both!!!
My choice it'd be the Sig all the way!!!!!!
Poohgyrr
June 3, 2003, 04:10 PM
If I can't get a Hi Power, I want a Glock ;).....
PS: A blued python may have "s*x appeal", butt I'm not sure about either Sigs or Glocks ;)....
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