Old, but still delivers the goods: 1917


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Mad Magyar
January 10, 2007, 06:38 PM
I've been so enamored with autoloaders this past year, I thought it was time to take out the Ol' War Horse...It took some 10 shots or so to get used to the different feel/recoil through these original grips... This revolver has been with me for some 30 years. With the foolishness of youth, a few years after purchase I decided to have an Armoloy finish...You don't figure on collectibility & appreciation when you're young; but it is a real sweet shooter and I have no complaints...However, I noticed to clean it by my stds, took nearly twice as long then my autos. Loved every minute of it....;)
Using Georgia Arms auto-rim,200 gr. Gold Dot HP's, shooting "double hammer"aka, "double tap", "double hit", "controlled pairs", etc, with occasional head-shots....:)
Life is good......:D
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Chuck Perry
January 11, 2007, 12:42 AM
Where did you get the Mas Ayoob targets? :evil:

Baba Louie
January 11, 2007, 01:43 AM
How does the silvered finish reflect glare in bright sunlight? Good looking horse gun. Seems plenty accurate too.

Mat, not doormat
January 11, 2007, 01:58 AM
ME LIKE. Want to part?

Dr.Rob
January 11, 2007, 02:21 AM
Mine is a Colt but I know exactly how you feel. Those old guns can still shoot.

XavierBreath
January 11, 2007, 07:11 AM
Sweet!

Mad Magyar
January 11, 2007, 08:45 AM
"How does the silvered finish reflect glare in bright sunlight?"
Not too bad, more of a satin finish than a glossy-chromy look...
Thanks for the nice comments by all...
Chuck, that was funny....:D
Dr. Rob, are the Colt's pretty much the same dimensions/platform and needing the moonclips or AR?

C&L, who did the nickle job? I like the grips also....

Cocked & Locked
January 11, 2007, 09:22 AM
My Super Reflective nickled 1917 BBQ Revolver :eek:

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6259637/166278259.jpg

Z_Infidel
January 11, 2007, 10:05 AM
Makes me wonder how the new, recently announced 1917 models will look...

Vern Humphrey
January 11, 2007, 02:45 PM
are the Colt's pretty much the same dimensions/platform and needing the moonclips or AR?

Yep. In fact, the earliest Colt M1917s had no step in the chamber -- a .45 ACP round dropped into the chamber without the moon clips would fall too far, and not headspace on the case mouth, so you had to use moon clips.

I had a somewhat later Colt M1917 and shot it without moon clips (they were hard to find in those days) and it functioned fine, but you had to point it up and let the fired cases fall out.

Bear41mag
January 11, 2007, 02:58 PM
These are wonderful old Smiths, have been trying for a while to talk a shooting pal out of his. My compliments.

MCgunner
January 11, 2007, 03:32 PM
I bought one some years ago from J&G when I had my FFL. Paid a hundred and that's about what I got. :rolleyes: It was rather clapped out, not NEAR that good condition. I had to have a smith work it over to make sure it was shootable and safe. I loaded light stuff for it. It didn't like cast bullets at all, would tumble. Had to shoot jacketed stuff. I sold it. Sure was neat, wish it'd been in better condition. If it'd been in decent shape, I might have built something out of it for carry. I read an article some time ago where a guy did that, put a short barrel on, etc. It was a little fat through the cylinder, of course, but fairly light for an N frame.

Mine had cracked stocks and the grip frame was pitted anyway, so I put a cheap Pachmayr on it.

JoeHatley
January 11, 2007, 04:02 PM
Fun shooters...

http://www.iowatelecom.net/~hatley/1917_l.jpg

Joe

Dr.Rob
January 11, 2007, 05:17 PM
Here's mine...

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=16991&d=1096163438

I've use full moon and half moon clips and fired it without them.

bakert
January 11, 2007, 06:47 PM
Nice guns. Every time I see a 1917 though I could kick myself for not buying one(or more) years ago when the prices in my area were so low. I dont mean beat up guns, I'm talking about some nice specimens. They were real bargains back then even when all guns were cheaper. Oh well, the story of my life:(

Prof. A. Wickwire
January 11, 2007, 06:54 PM
Makes me wonder how the new, recently announced 1917 models will look...

Z_Infidel,

Who is making the new 1917?

Sincerely,

Prof. A. Wickwire

Eightball
January 11, 2007, 07:00 PM
Makes me wonder how the new, recently announced 1917 models will look...And again, who is making said firearm?

PI Rob
January 11, 2007, 08:24 PM
S&W is bringing out a new version of it. No info yet on price but there are some pics from the 2007 shot show on gunblast.com. It definately looks FUN!:D

Dienekes
January 11, 2007, 09:15 PM
Missed out on them when they were everywhere for $29.95 or so back in the 60s. Current prices on decent originals are now ridiculous for a shooter, so may have to get one of the current M22s or one of the new 1917s.

A full nickelled 1917 is one impressive cannon.

Eightball
January 12, 2007, 12:50 AM
S&W is bringing out a new version of it. No info yet on price but there are some pics from the 2007 shot show on gunblast.com. It definately looks FUN!More specific link, mayhaps?

Candiru
January 12, 2007, 02:39 AM
More specific link, mayhaps?


Go to the following link and scroll down about half the page. The photo and caption will be on the left side:

http://gunblast.com/SHOT_Show_2007.htm

6_gunner
January 12, 2007, 12:24 PM
I've got a Smith 1917 that's had its barrel cut down to 3 1/4" at some point. I thought it was a pretty good deal for $300. The revolver is in remarkably good mechanical condition. It's become my favorite handgun. Those old Smiths can sure shoot! I love the long action trigger.
As for the "new version 1917", are you guys talking about the re-released S&W model 22? I wonder how they compare to the originals.

Sniper X
January 12, 2007, 01:11 PM
A Sheik Massad Ayoob target? HA! He looks just like the Mass! I remember when we were doing the "Secrets of a Professional Shooter" video and one of the BCSO swat guys called him Massage Aknob.....:what: :)

DF357
January 12, 2007, 02:26 PM
http://www.dfandkf.com/1917colt2.jpg

Even though the 17 Colt looks similar to the 17 S&W, none of the parts are interchangeable like the 1911's. Notice the 'free' extractor rod on the Colt and the cylinder release 'pulls' instead of 'pushes'.

Deanimator
January 12, 2007, 02:45 PM
As for the "new version 1917", are you guys talking about the re-released S&W model 22?
No, it's advertised as an M1917. It's got the lock, so a lot of people [myself included] will pass on it.

Master Blaster
January 12, 2007, 08:30 PM
http://www.gunblast.com/images/SHOT2007/100_0106.jpg


Thanks to Gunblast for the image

looks great to me, notice they are hiding the HOLE:barf:

They will probably be north of $1200.

here is the real thing made in 1946 but in .38spl.
My M&P


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=40573&d=1148995658

Dr.Rob
January 12, 2007, 08:45 PM
I think the Colt is dimensionally a bit larger, also you could at one time get 2 cylinders for the Colt, to shoot 45 Colt as well as 45 ACP, I don't think the Smith can do that. The Colt weighs about 40oz.

elric
January 12, 2007, 11:15 PM
Here a Colt version, unfortunately somewhere along the way someone decided to give it a gloss blue refinish.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/glopmox/1917.jpg

lwrnc1963
January 13, 2007, 10:08 PM
6 Gunner I also have one chopped to 3 1/4" and by coincidence I also paid $300.00 for it this spring.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/lwrnc1963/DSC00449.jpg

Malamute
January 14, 2007, 12:16 AM
".... unfortunately somewhere along the way someone decided to give it a gloss blue refinish."


Are you sure it originally had a different finish? Some of the early guns had a polished blue finish, and I believe there were commercial versions of the 1917's, at least from Smith, not sure about Colt. I guess from Colt they would be "New Service" models in commercial guise, tho they may have sold commercial 1917's also.

PI Rob
January 14, 2007, 12:10 PM
"Here a Colt version, unfortunately somewhere along the way someone decided to give it a gloss blue refinish"


Not sure unfortunately is the right word here, because the finish in the pic looks awesome.:D That really is a great pic, elric. If that bad ole Colt is botherin' you, I'll be glad to zip on down to Austin and take it off your hands. You might sleep better:evil: :evil:

Bill73
January 14, 2007, 01:32 PM
Here is an original 1917 Colt in original finish. Someone in the past drilled a tiny hole through the front sight.

Bill73
January 14, 2007, 01:34 PM
Pic did not show?

Bill73
January 14, 2007, 01:40 PM
One more time.

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL524/636041/1028200/70059771.jpg

NORTEXED
January 14, 2007, 05:32 PM
I bought this one years ago for a project gun. My brother had one with a real bad finish but otherwise good fit and lockup. He had the barrel cut back to 3" the grip frame rounded, and the whole thing satin nickeled. I made one of the sweetest carry/pack guns you ever saw. I wanted to do the same, but just couldn't bring myself to have it cut and refinished.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/NORTEXED/Mvc-008f.jpg

elric
January 14, 2007, 11:21 PM
Are you sure it originally had a different finish? Some of the early guns had a polished blue finish, and I believe there were commercial versions of the 1917's

This is a US GI one, near the end of the run. I doubt it would have had such a high gloss blue originally.

elric
January 14, 2007, 11:23 PM
Not sure unfortunately is the right word here, because the finish in the pic looks awesome.

Its just unfortunate that it had to be refinished. They did a pretty good job, but there must have been some rust/pitting on the sideplate since they polished the Colt horsey nearly off to get the surface ready for rebluing.

Vern Humphrey
January 15, 2007, 12:03 PM
This is a US GI one, near the end of the run. I doubt it would have had such a high gloss blue originally.

As I recall, the M1917s were originally blued. A parked finish would indicate refurbishment about the time of WWII. Of course, that doesn't mean your gun hasn't been reblued.

Bullet Bob
January 15, 2007, 03:14 PM
Here's my 1917 S&W Heritage model from the early 2000's. For those who want to tell me how it's not exactly like the originals, I already know, so spare me. Or not, make yourself happy. I took off the lanyard ring, and Roy Fishpaw made a set of Sambar stag grips, and I'm happy. Unfortunately;) it doesn't have the "hole", so it doesn't give even more people a reason to froth at the mouth, but you can't have everything.

http://fototime.com/8F0924E036D46C0/standard.jpg

roo_ster
January 15, 2007, 06:08 PM
My S&W 1917 is the most accurate revolver I own.

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