How rare is this Mosin?
jjmorgan64
January 6, 2003, 12:42 PM
I just picked up pretty cheap a real nice mosin-nagant. This is a rifle not the carbine,
The markings are identical to the Tula marking from a Dragoon rifle, as shown on Mosin-nagant net. Except the year is 1926 http://www.mosin-nagant.net/Russian-Proofs1.html
However this rifle has the octagon reciever. Which I seem to recall from TFL was fairly rare,(searches showed me nothing)
Just curious, Thanks Again.
JM
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Sactown
January 6, 2003, 12:49 PM
Try the Mosin Nagant forum here: http://pub109.ezboard.com/bparallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums
Oleg Volk
January 6, 2003, 01:12 PM
Probably a pre-1917 Receiver rebarreled in 1926. Does it have other marks, such as Finnish stamps?
foghornl
January 6, 2003, 03:26 PM
Another place you might try for info:
www.russian-mosin-nagant.com
DMK
January 6, 2003, 04:46 PM
There's another Mosin forum here:
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=337
Between Gunsnet and Parallax, sombody should be able to tell you about it for sure.
jjmorgan64
January 6, 2003, 08:25 PM
Oleg, I didn't see any other marks listed as proof marks, the reciever does have a hammer stamped on the top flat section, is the only other significant mark, on the barrel is a circle dot, a square n?, and a circle K
The reciever serial numer matches the barrel serial number, but that probrably means nothing.
Thanks again
DMK
January 6, 2003, 09:04 PM
A Finn should have an SA(Finnish Army ordanance mark) on it somewhere, unless it was a Sk.Y(Civil Guard), but even those were claimed by the army and marked when the Civil Guard was disbanded so a Sk.Y getting away without it would be pretty rare.
It sounds Russian. Is the front sight a post with a cover over it?
jjmorgan64
January 6, 2003, 11:23 PM
DMK, Yes it has the hooded front sight, post with a circle cover around it.
No I can't find any of those finish marks on it.
As always I am indebted to you fine gentlemen.
RON in PA
January 7, 2003, 12:35 AM
Go to the suggested pages, they are a treasure trove of Mosin info. The hex receiver is not rare, before the model 91/30 with round receivers came out in the early 1930s, all receivers were hex and in fact some of the early 91/30s had hex receivers, they didn't waste a perfectly good receiver. If your gun has the sights and furniture of a 91/30 it maybe an early one.
DMK
January 7, 2003, 07:53 AM
I think Ron in PA is right. It's likely a Russian 91/30 with a hex receiver. If you pull the action from the stock, their might be a date under the rear tang (where the screw is) indicating when the reciever was originally built .
While maybe not considered actually rare. The hex receiver Mosins are more desirable to collectors, probably slightly stronger and will demand a higher price.
jjmorgan64
January 7, 2003, 02:22 PM
Well it is not an older reciever the date on the tang is 26, matching the 1926 on the barrel, also shows a hammer, marking it as Tula, same as the barrel, Well i'm habving fun looking this up, thanks still.
GD
January 7, 2003, 04:42 PM
It sounds to me like a standard M91. All M91s have octagonal receivers and the pre 1936 M91/30s also have octagonal receivers. You might have a dragoon M91/30 which would be more valuable. What is the length of the barrel?
jjmorgan64
January 7, 2003, 05:06 PM
28" from the reciever to the end of barrel;)
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