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Gunblade
January 13, 2007, 11:47 PM
Putting this here because I'm not sure where else to.

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Have you ever seen these on late night TV
http://www.foodsaver.com/

Apparently this device enables parishable items to last many times longer in storage than conventional means(tupperware, zip-lock, etc.).

If this thing can make a piece of meat with a shelf-life of weeks last for six months in a freezer, Would it also extend the "Shelf-life" of guns & ammo?

note: "Shelf-life" meaning the amount of time it takes for rust to develope in/on and unused firearm, or how long ammunition/cases will last before they become tarnished or unsafe to use.

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SoCalShooter
January 13, 2007, 11:49 PM
Seen it, and if it lives up to what it says I would get it if I didnt have 5 cases of MRE's. Plus canned supplies and a crap load of the space icecream.


P.S. I have the produce keeper apparently!

Jorg
January 14, 2007, 12:10 AM
You mean like this? I ended up one of those Foodsavers as a present. I have no idea how well it really works, but it was fun to watch it crush the hell out of a couple of boxes of XM193. If you look closely, you can see where it has smashed the cardboard right against the plastic divider and catridges.

I was pretty much just screwing around when I did it. I would think that if you tossed in a little dessicant packet, it would work pretty well.

DaltonSpringfield
January 14, 2007, 12:27 AM
I have one and I use it for EVERYTHING. Don't bother buying the bags, they are a rip-off, go for the huge roll, it can make any size bag you need. And at $10 per roll it's cheap to feed. I store changes of clothes, money, guns, and a multitude of other stuff with mine. No easier SHTF storage solution IMO. I particularly like the idea that it can take 2 pairs of jeans, 4 pairs of socks, 2 teeshirts, and 2 flannels and suck it down to the size of a laptop computer. Desiccant packs are a great idea also.
YMMV
Dalton

tellner
January 14, 2007, 01:09 AM
Please remember that it doesn't retard food spoilage. In fact, it can increase the growth of anaerobic bacteria.

Firehand
January 14, 2007, 12:00 PM
I've got one, and food sealed with it and frozen does indeed keep better.

One thing I started doing is taking spare dessicant packs and, after baking, vacuum-sealing them in a bag. They stay nice & dry and ready for ages.

I have no reason not to expect them to work for weapon storage, but I'm testing it now. I took two knife blades, both clean and oiled as usual, and sealed them up, one with and one without vacuum, and buried them in the garden. Dig them up in a couple more weeks and see how they look.

And you can have the joy of A: sealing a revolver in a bag and B: handing it to somebody and watching their face.

Rembrandt
January 14, 2007, 12:35 PM
After seeing the water damage hurricane Katrina did to some folks collections, it couldn't hurt. (heehee) Keeps ammo fresher and may even add 50 years shelf to it...

Dave Markowitz
January 14, 2007, 12:44 PM
The guys in the Arfcom Survival Forum love the Foodsavers.

I'm gonna get one eventually.

thegriz
January 14, 2007, 01:42 PM
They are not fail-proof but they are incredible. My whole family seals up important stuff. Just be careful with fragile items because it can crush stuff pretty good.

It's also great for re-sealing bags of cereal, potato chips, etc. if you don't need it vacuum-sealed.

It's not a replacement for old-fashioned canning. However, it does a terrific job of keeping food fresh in the fridge or freezer.

I like to cook steaks, etc on the grill and seal them up for later. Just boil the packages or open and reheat - it preserves the grilled taste. I hate re-heated steaks unless they are vacuum sealed.

Justin
January 14, 2007, 04:51 PM
Off topic.

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