22 millimeter shells casings found at crime scene
Erebus
January 14, 2007, 03:22 AM
Ouch, bet they really hurt :evil:
LINK (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/print/10722573/detail.html)
Check the last line of the article.
TheBostonChannel.com
5 Teens Wounded In Shooting
Shell Casings Found At Scene
POSTED: 10:03 am EST January 11, 2007
LYNN, Mass. -- A shooting in Lynn sends five teenage boys to the hospital with gunshot wounds.
Police believe the shots were fired at a group of youths from a passing car on Summer Street shortly before 9 p.m. Wednesday.
None of the victims sustained life-threatening injuries. Police said four were struck in the legs and one in the hand.
No arrests have been made and Lynn Police Capt. Joseph Rowe would not say if the shooting was believed to be gang-related.
Investigators found evidence of a possible exchange of gunfire during the incident. Nine-millimeter and 22-millimeter shell casings were found at the scene.
We better hurry up and get these 22 millimeters banned, I'm sure they are the weapon of choice for terrorists. After all it's for the children. :D
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hoji
January 14, 2007, 04:26 AM
:what: :what: :what: :what:
Golly, that musta been loud.
Dr. Dickie
January 14, 2007, 04:34 AM
I want one! I want one!:neener:
Norton
January 14, 2007, 06:57 AM
I'd like to have one, but they are so darned hard to conceal
http://www.ringfeder.com/images/20mm%20Gatling%20gun.gif
Glockfan.45
January 14, 2007, 07:06 AM
My God terrorist could shoot down a plane with that :rolleyes: . Incase somebody who reads this cant figure it out I am sure it was a typo and it was actually 9mm and .22lr.
Norton
January 14, 2007, 07:11 AM
Incase somebody who reads this cant figure it out I am sure it was a typo and it was actually 9mm and .22lr.
Good point!
For all of you antis lurking in the shadows and are horrified that people have access to these (http://www.ringfeder.com/images/20mm%20Gatling%20gun.gif), that was a JOKE. The article is a typographical error that should have read, as was previously stated, 9mm and .22lr.
Breath deeply and relax....we are just kidding. :evil:
LaEscopeta
January 14, 2007, 11:33 AM
I also think they were .22 caliber shells. But aren’t 10-gage shotgun shells about 22 millimeters in diameter? 20 mm? Just asking.
Langenator
January 14, 2007, 01:41 PM
Actually, it probably wasn't a typo. It was a dumb-o, as in, neither the reporter who wrote the story, nor the editor who checked it knows enough about guns to know it wasn't right.
The Q&A between the reporter and the PD spokesperson probably went something like this:
Reporter: "Were any shell casings found at the scene?"
PD PAO: "Yes. Some 9mm, some .22"
And the reporter, like I said, doesn't know anything about guns and can't figure out that when someone who's familiar with guns says "twenty-two" it means .22LR.
Jim K
January 14, 2007, 01:58 PM
I wonder...
Reporter (on phone): There was a stabbing at 4th and Main twenty minutes ago.
Editor: No, it was a shooting.
Reporter: What do you mean a shooting? The perp used a knife.
Editor: Listen, stupid. This paper has a policy calling for a ban on guns, so all crimes are committed with guns, get it? No knives, no clubs, no poison, only guns. Now shape up or ship out!
Reporter: OK, OK, I get it. There was a shooting at 4th and Main thirty minutes ago. One man is dead.
Editor: What kind of damnfool are you? 4th and Main is in a good area the mayor says is crime free; there could not have been a shooting there, it is impossible.
Reporter: OK, it was a 12th and Maple, in the projects.
Editor: No, no, you idiot! The projects are crime free, the mayor and the chief say so. Now where was the multiple shooting?
Reporter: What multiple shooting? Like I said, one guy was stabbed, I mean shot. Maybe Sycamore and Railroad Streets?
Editor: That is OK, no one has said that area is crime free, and it is not a minority area. As for the number of victims, it makes a better story if there is a whole bunch of bodies, so let's get the right story.
Reporter: Sure, boss, here goes. Seven men are dead, shot to death in a massacre at Sycamore and Railroad Streets...
Editor: I'll make that three men, two young boys, a woman and a small girl. This should really get people stirred up. And the woman was assaulted.
Reporter: Sounds great. Shows I have a lot to learn about the business.
Editor: You sure do, son. Just remember that in the newspaper business, we deal in facts, and only the facts. The people want the truth and that is what we are dedicated to giving them.
Jim
Kimber1911_06238
January 14, 2007, 02:02 PM
I am also thinking they were .22lr. If they were actually 22mm there would have been a lot more fatalities...like when the round went through three buildings and killed someone 2 miles away.
22-rimfire
January 14, 2007, 03:04 PM
Maybe that had a 20mm anti-aircraft cannon mounted on their car? You just never know when you might need one.
Tbu61
January 14, 2007, 03:28 PM
What was it is said about education in my other post????
LeonCarr
January 14, 2007, 03:35 PM
22mm...talk about stopping power :). I'll bet the crime scene tech needed some extra large ziplocs to pick up those casings for evidence :).
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Aries-
January 14, 2007, 03:38 PM
wow that guy that got hit in the head must have one freaking hard head to survive a 22mm round to the skull. wow..
must be an internet troll lol they seem to have really thick skulls :)
Vern Humphrey
January 14, 2007, 03:49 PM
I'd like to have one, but they are so darned hard to conceal
If you got one of them, you don't have to conceal it.
Reminds me of a guy who took his girl to the ball game. The first batter got a hit, and he jumped up and yelled, "RUN, you son-of-a-gun, RUN!"
The next batter got a hit and he stood up on his seat and shouted "RUN, you son-of-a-gun, RUN!"
The third batter walked and started strolling out to first base, and his girlfriend jumped up and shouted, "RUN, you son-of-a-gun, RUN!"
He looked over at her and said, "Honey, he doesn't have to run -- he has four balls."
And she jumped up on the seat and shouted "STRUT, you son-of-a-gun, STRUT!"
Geronimo45
January 14, 2007, 03:50 PM
You guys are just blowhards. Real HSLD guys like me know what the 22mm is. You civvie sissies can't even handle the little .50 BMG. In the NATO SpecOps community, we use the 22mm exclusively (though us US members call in the .86) for handguns and rifles. You want to know where the phrase "86 that order" came from? It came from an incident in Korea, when some of our guys were embedded with the Marine Corps. There was a nice collection of MGs raking the trenches, and the Marines didn't know what to do - so they turned to 'Jack' (name with-held for security reasons) and briefed him.
"Whatcha gonna do?"
"I'm gonna 86-'em," 'Jack' said. He flicked up the volley sights on his .86 Mauser (basically a beefed up broomhandle) and fired off a mag into the air. Two minutes later, the MG nest was silent. The rounds took two minutes - in which they went through the ionosphere, maybe the Van-Allen belts, and came down like a thunderbolt took four of 'em out - never a good idea to go prone when you've got a 22mm coming out of the sky.
The Mauser design has had a laser, suppressor, and pic. rail added on to it. It's one of the only designs that can handle the lower-powered loads and AA loads.
P.S. We don't need AP bullets. We have a lithium-fluorine compound that can explode on striking a soft target. Normal ferro-phosphor-Lawrencium rounds are used for anti-aircraft and anti-materiel duties.
P.S.S. We did have to sell some of our old Vietnam-area weapons a few years back. Most were sold to various Mall, Movie Theater, and Library Tactical Teams. Some undoubtedly got into the wrong hands.
TCB in TN
January 14, 2007, 04:11 PM
P.S.S. We did have to sell some of our old Vietnam-area weapons a few years back. Most were sold to various Mall, Movie Theater, and Library Tactical Teams. Some undoubtedly got into the wrong hands.
I think the last statement was redundant! :D Wrong hands indeed!
answerguy
January 14, 2007, 04:25 PM
22 mm equals 0.866141732 inches
Cliff47
January 14, 2007, 05:55 PM
The city desk editor should have realized that Sycamore and Railroad run parallel to each other (not only that, but are on opposite sides of town). Just gotta get your facts straight.
answerguy
January 14, 2007, 06:48 PM
My newspaper, reporting on the appearance of a wild turkey in town, gave background info that wild turkeys weigh about 68 pounds. It only proves there is no limit to what a newspaper editor doesn't know.
carterbeauford
January 14, 2007, 07:09 PM
I actually have a 20MM casing on my desk at work, to scare new employees with :eek:
Vern Humphrey
January 14, 2007, 07:20 PM
My newspaper, reporting on the appearance of a wild turkey in town, gave background info that wild turkeys weigh about 68 pounds. It only proves there is no limit to what a newspaper editor doesn't know.
You probably don't believe in ten pound squirrels, either.:p
sm
January 14, 2007, 07:30 PM
Jim Keenan - Post No. 9
Applause and Standing Ovation! :)
Stevie-Ray
January 14, 2007, 07:44 PM
Maybe that had a 20mm anti-aircraft cannon mounted on their car? You just never know when you might need one.I need one almost every day. I'm firmly convinced that they are illegal to mount on vehicles because of me. And truck drivers.:neener:
115grfmj
January 14, 2007, 08:22 PM
When you go into the millimeters......it's not a drive by anymore...........
it's a "STRAFING":eek: :eek: :eek:
BobTheTomato
January 15, 2007, 06:26 AM
Scary....I mean even if you didnt get hit the shock wave would tear you in half.
foghornl
January 15, 2007, 07:52 AM
it's not a drive by anymore...........
it's a "STRAFING"
Would that be called a "FLY-BY" shooting????:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :D :p
Clipper
January 15, 2007, 10:34 AM
...Doesn't everyone have an Oerlikon deringer?
Zero_DgZ
January 15, 2007, 10:43 AM
KA-THOOM!
Gat, homie!
FieroCDSP
January 15, 2007, 11:15 AM
I think this proves that many of the people writing articles that complain about guns know absolutely nothing about them.
migoi
January 15, 2007, 01:15 PM
H.L. Mencken then post #9 in this thread moves from the amusing to the scary. He writes about his early years as a reporter and openly admits they often just made up details for stories rather than go across town to find out what really happened.
migoi
Vern Humphrey
January 15, 2007, 01:29 PM
If you read H.L. Mencken then post #9 in this thread moves from the amusing to the scary. He writes about his early years as a reporter and openly admits they often just made up details for stories rather than go across town to find out what really happened.
Yep. In fact the reason the Battle of Bellieu Wood was such a big thing was because Wilie Post wrote up the account before the battle was fought (relying on pre-battle briefings, and intending to phone in changes after the battle.) Crossing the wheat field with the Marines, he was shot through the head and initially reported killed (he lost an eye.) The news bureau in the rear then sent in his account of the battle as written -- and the rest is history.;)
runfrumu
January 15, 2007, 02:05 PM
im not worried about the 22 millimeter. im more worried about those guys who can get hit by them and live.
ArfinGreebly
January 15, 2007, 03:18 PM
From first-hand experience, I can say that over a 15-year period, 100% of the news stories of which I had personal knowledge (either as a direct on-scene witness, or exposure to multiple witnesses) were reported wrong.
Whole significant chunks just edited out. Facts altered to fit a worldview. Facts INVENTED to explain events, imparting substantial spin to the story.
Every one of them, hacked to the point of "wait, I was there, that's completely not what happened."
I have surveyed people I work with over the years and found that, while they find the news "credible" they concede that every story they were involved in was bent or broken by the time it hit print.
Real life events are nearly never sensational enough to merit air time or ink. They usually keep a cannister of seasoning close by to add spice.
And 22-millimetre shells . . . ? . . . that's some serious spice!
SaMx
January 15, 2007, 03:21 PM
Is some one at least going to send an email or letter to the newspaper to correct their mistake?
VirgilCaine
January 15, 2007, 04:16 PM
"Strafing", lol.
Vern Humphrey
January 15, 2007, 04:18 PM
Arnaud De Borchgrave reported on Operation Huntsville. His method was to get drunk on the Adviser's liquor, sleep it off and then talk to the privates afterwards and take some sorts of notes.
I read his story in Newsweek and sent them a letter, asking them to check his baggage, because he reported a lot more bodies than we found on the field.
They never replied.;)
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