January 6, 2003, 01:32 PM
I've had the chance to use ghost rings on an 870 and and 1187, and I've got some time with just a bead sighted shotgun. I liked both, but find that my accuracy with the bead sights is less than what I'd like, but the ghost ring ramp front sight (a Scattergun tech) was a bit large. Are there any ghost ring sights that use something like a bead as the front sight? Does Ashley Express make one of these, as it seems to fall in line with what they do?
January 6, 2003, 07:33 PM
Nope. Here's the deal...
Sights are not quite parallel to the bore. A bead would not be the right height to work with the peep(GR)rear unless it was mounted on a base of correct height. For that much work, the bladed bead we all use is better for a crisper sight pic.
The front sight on my HD 870 is made over from a rifle set, with the base milled to fit the bigger barrel. It has a removable hood and a bit of yellow enamel to highlight the bead. Quite easy to see.
Most smiths could do this w/o much effort or cost.
January 6, 2003, 10:18 PM
Remington tried this for a while. Unfortunately, we've got a number of these guns now.
The bead sits on about a 3/8" base and has protective wings. The rear aperature is, imho, too small.
Looking at the current Remington literature, it looks like they've gone with the Scattergun GR set-up.
These seemed real slow to pick-up and there was appreciable increase in the shooters' accuracy at distance.
January 9, 2003, 01:38 PM
Thanks, guys. By bead sight, I'd meant a bead on a post, but that wasn't clear. Mainly, I wanted a sight with the advantages of the aperture but without the large front sight I'd dealt with. I may just stick with the standard ghost rings, learn to use them properly and then go from there.
January 9, 2003, 03:07 PM
I shoot just plain bead, no rear sight. And for 99% of what I do with a shot gun it is wonderfull. I have become very good with it.
However it just plain sucks for slugs.
I mostly use my shotgun for 3 gun, and I'm very fast with just the bead, but I have to aim below the belt line of an IDPA target at 100 yards to hit it COM.
I have been thinking (always dangerous) about going to a rifle sight in front with a flip down rear sight. Maybe get a barrel with a vent rib, install a rifle sight in front that I would just point like a bead, and then mount something like a Ruger 10-22 peep sight (which can be flipped down when not shooting slugs) on the rear of the rib.
Anybody ever try anything like that?