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ACP
May 31, 2003, 10:09 AM
POS Eric Rudolph caught. Chalk one up for the good guys.


MURPHY, N.C. (Reuters) - The man suspected in the Olympic park bombing in Atlanta in 1996 and a blast at an Alabama abortion clinic two years later was in custody on Saturday in North Carolina, CNN reported.

FBI officials told the cable network that Eric Robert Rudolph, 36, who has been on the FBI's most-wanted list since 1998, was apprehended by the Cherokee County Sheriff's Department in Murphy, North Carolina.

The FBI officials said fingerprints taken from the man in custody matched those of the suspect Rudolph, CNN reported.

An FBI spokesman in Washington, John Iannarelli, would not confirm the match and told Reuters the bureau was still conducting fingerprint tests. He said a sheriff's deputy had detained the suspect in Murphy at 4:30 a.m.

"He's being detained until we can verify his identity. Obviously, if it's Mr. Rudolph we will proceed from there," he said in a telephone interview.

Federal authorities have been searching the area in western North Carolina for years. Rudolph's abandoned pickup truck was found in Murphy after the Jan. 29, 1998, bombing of the abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, which killed an off-duty police officer and seriously injured a nurse.

Rudolph also faces federal charges in the July 1996 bombing at Centennial Olympic Park, which killed a Georgia woman at the Atlanta Olympics and injured more than 100 people, and bombings at an Atlanta abortion clinic and gay nightclub.

Rudolph has been described by the FBI as a rugged survivalist who was an accomplished hiker, outdoorsman and hunter.

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Ol' Badger
May 31, 2003, 10:38 AM
I dont realy care about abortion clinics the Olympics or gay bars! Hell these are all things the world could use less of anyway. IMO.

(Flame Proof Suit On)

El Tejon
May 31, 2003, 10:50 AM
They caught Richard Jewel!:p Good work, Agent Wiggum!

Dannyboy
May 31, 2003, 10:59 AM
Wow, Badger, you must be really depressed now, with your hero being in jail and all.

Mike Irwin
May 31, 2003, 11:15 AM
"I dont realy care about abortion clinics the Olympics or gay bars! Hell these are all things the world could use less of anyway. IMO."

Do you care about the fact that he apparently murdered a woman in cold blood?

Or is this simply going to turn into an anti-abortion/anti-gay screed?

rock jock
May 31, 2003, 11:22 AM
Hell these are all things the world could use less of anyway.
As politicized as the Olympics have become, I'll have to agree with you. As far as the rest, he should have protested in accordance with the law like Operation Rescue.

Battler
May 31, 2003, 11:22 AM
He was probably joking/being sarcastic. Noone would seriously defend all of those things. (Well, except maybe for Eric Rudolph).

Kaylee
May 31, 2003, 12:12 PM
1. Everybody remember your manners please. No personal attacks on members here. Period.

2. Not my story to tell, but be cautious of who you paint in the "we could use less of them" category. You might be surprised who gets caught in the crossfire.

-K

hammer4nc
May 31, 2003, 12:19 PM
Caught dumpster diving by the local deputies, heh? Understandably, Mr. Rudolph had not been getting his updates on FM 90-10, the latest of which clearly points out:

"Personnel should carefully avoid the vicinity of restaurants (especially doughnut shops), which present the highest concentration of law enforcement personnel within the urban terrain."

Sweet irony...let's see how the fib's take credit for this one?:p

Greg L
May 31, 2003, 01:19 PM
They already did. I heard a news clip about (not from) Ashcroft saying that the FBI always gets their man. Leaving the implication that it was the FBI that caught him rather than a local responding to a store owner's complaint.

What puzzles me though is why after 5 years he hadn't E&E'd the area and moved to a large city where he could remain hidden with little effort.

Greg

stevelyn
May 31, 2003, 01:26 PM
I'd love to hear how he managed to evade capture for so long in such a small area, but other than that, he's in the same group as Al Q. Send him to Gitmo.

Lone_Gunman
May 31, 2003, 01:39 PM
Send him to Gitmo?

Did I miss the trial or something?

I guess after 5 yrs of media reports accusing him of the Olympic bombing, the abortion clinic bombing, etc, you guys have decided its ok to convict him without a trial?

I am not supporting what he did, but I think a trial would be a good idea before punishment.

Ol' Badger
May 31, 2003, 01:58 PM
1. My Hero. Nope.
2. IMO. Its as important as your. Heck, If I offended any Gay Olympic Abortionist here. Sorry about that!
3. Kaylee's correct. I'm on some list somewhere I bet that people want less of. Still IMO I stand by what I said.
4. Or as Rock Jock said "protested in accordance with the law like Operation Rescue" maybe he tried that but was OC sprayed by a Fed Marshal and did it his way!
5. Heck I don't know why I posted? Is it Fire Arms related anyway? IMO

:neener:

Oleg Volk
May 31, 2003, 06:23 PM
I dont realy care about abortion clinics the Olympics or gay bars! Hell these are all things the world could use less of anyway. IMO.


You are entitled to your opinion. In turn, I am entitled to being quite disappointed with what looks like your tacit approval of terrorist actions/murder. :mad:

jimpeel
May 31, 2003, 06:28 PM
I guess ol' Rudy wasn't as dead as the authorities thought he was.

Now maybe they can find the Four Corners shooters.

BenW
May 31, 2003, 06:38 PM
They caught Richard Jewel! Good work, Agent Wiggum!
On that note, does anyone know Richard Jewel's current status and if he ever got satisfaction from the authorities? There's a guy who got a bum deal. I wonder if he'll take (can take?) legal action against the authorities if Rudolph is convicted?

Jeeper
May 31, 2003, 07:08 PM
Wasnt this the guy that was a survival expert? I guess trashcans are easier than other ways. I always figured he was out west somewhere living with some sympathizer.

Battler
May 31, 2003, 07:10 PM
I don't think this is over either. Look forward to an arrest or two of people who helped him.

geegee
May 31, 2003, 07:17 PM
On that note, does anyone know Richard Jewel's current status and if he ever got satisfaction from the authorities?
IIRC, he received a settlement as a result of the hassle he went through. Talk about having your life turned upside down...:fire: geegee

makdaddy03
May 31, 2003, 08:25 PM
Mugshot doesnt look like the most wanted pics to me.:scrutiny:

Mike Irwin
May 31, 2003, 09:39 PM
"Mugshot doesnt look like the most wanted pics to me."

And I have it on good authority that when the fingerprints were checked they came back to Jimmy Hoffa...

Destructo6
May 31, 2003, 10:27 PM
Is this another instance of the Bush admin cleaning up, or forced to clean up, one of Clinton's messes? Couldn't resist.

Seems like the media isn't too into it. Still mainly talking about Laci Peterson (Scott and Eric should get together).

oldfart
May 31, 2003, 11:12 PM
Well, if the only thing they could pin on him was the abortion clinic bombing they might very well have a hard time getting a conviction. Throwing in the gay bar incident might not be all that much help in some parts of the south either. But bombing the Olympics? He'll hang for sure.
On another note. I remember reading about another guy who the government said was a terrorist-type. They painted him with all sorts of charges from adultery to (insert something bad that starts with a "z".) They hunted him for years and finally just gave up because they had other things to worry about. Now we consider Thomas Jefferson a hero. Two hundred years from now Mr. Rudolph may hold a similar place in history.
He did something that none of us would have done. Was that because he is a madman or was it because we are too concerned with our creature comforts? I don't know and I doubt that any of us is truly capable of objectively judging our own reasons.

rock jock
June 1, 2003, 12:03 AM
Well, if the only thing they could pin on him was the abortion clinic bombing they might very well have a hard time getting a conviction. Throwing in the gay bar incident might not be all that much help in some parts of the south either.
You know sir, I'm tired of people who have no inlking of the south making mischaracterizations about this part of the country. There has yet to be a single "hate-crime" I can think of in recent memory that has occurred in the south that has resulted in a "not guilty" verdict. The James Byrd Jr. dragging death is a classic example. Yeah, that mostly white southern jury let those those guys right off, didn't they?

He did something that none of us would have done. Was that because he is a madman or was it because we are too concerned with our creature comforts? I don't know and I doubt that any of us is truly capable of objectively judging our own reasons.
I was wondering when this was going to come up.. i guess for a few of the true haters of govt. on this board this guy has got to really cause some consternation. I mean, you want to hate him because he's a racial separatist and accused murderer, but yet he evaded the govt. and made the feebies look like buffoons and for that you must have a secret admiration for him.

jimpeel
June 1, 2003, 01:10 AM
I believe that what oldfart was trying to say was that Rudolph had the wherewithal to actually do something about what he believed in strongly. There may come a time in which any one of us might say "Enough!" to something we believe in strongly and actually do something about it. In Rudolph's case, he just wearied of the slaughter of the most innocent of beings. Herod did the same thing on a grand scale in Biblical times and every one of us would decry same if it happened today. As for actually doing something about it ... well ... the reruns of "Married with children" are on tonight and we wouldn't want to miss that, now, would we.

In our case, it may be the eventual attempt by the government to confiscate our firearms. There will be those who will greet the authorities at the door with them all bagged up and ready to go. Others will have them loaded up and ready to go also; but the greeting at the door will not be so amicable.

When the Jews were being loaded onto the rail cars, there were those who went willingly, those who turned them in willingly, and those who watched them go willingly; and then there was this man ...

http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/people/Anielewi.gif
Whom you may read about at http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/people/Anielewi.htm

I have serious doubts that Rudolph will ever take that vaunted place in history unless the populace wakes up to the fact that the legitimization of killing at any level legitimizes killing at every level.

The old, the infirm, the retarded, the crippled, are all legitimate targets under the premise that a living being, that is seen as a "nuisance", should be gotten rid of for the sake of expediency or comfort. Some European countries are hallmarks of this type of thinking. Some French groups are slaughtering Jews at a frightening rate and, under the laws of Denmark and Sweden, doctors regularly kill off their elderly whose "quality of life" has declined in their opinion and making the decision for them. There are those in those countries who, as this is written, applaud their efforts -- regardless of what any of us think.

So oldfart wasn't being laudatory of Rudolph's efforts; he was just being honest, that's all.

rock jock
June 1, 2003, 01:29 AM
jim,

I am actually in wholehearted agreement with your sentiments on abortion, but I think Rudolph was not. His opposition to abortion was not rooted in any moral crusade for saving the innocent, but rather his belief that it was a plot of the Jews to make the white race a minority in the U.S. In fact, all his beliefs were in some way tied to white supremicism. Even in the pro-life circles, I would think Rudolph's beliefs would be repudiated.

Destructo6
June 1, 2003, 01:34 AM
While I strongly disagree with abortion, equating voluntary abortion to the Jewish Holocaust is reprehensible.

Bombings are indescriminant and a cowardly way to kill.

jimpeel
June 1, 2003, 02:26 AM
My dissertation was on the comparison of attitudes to reprehensible activities, not on the activities themselves. The only comparison one could possibly make between the Holocaust and abortion is that seven times more children have been aborted than the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust.

By the way, I am not the type of person given to "heroes" but I make an exception for Mordechai Anielewicz. He is now, and will ever be, my personal hero.

Justin
June 1, 2003, 02:32 AM
I am, quite frankly, appalled at some of the responses this thread has generated. I find it reprehensible that anyone would have no qualms with people being murdered simply because of their sexual orientation or because they work at an abortion clinic. It's certainly your right to disagree with people who hold different views, even vehemently so. But to be so blasé about the victims of an idiotic, genocidal mass-murdering jerk is positively distasteful.

Believe what you will about homosexuality or abortion. It's certainly your right. But to advocate or applaud the deaths of those you disagree with makes you no ally of liberty.

Ol' Badger
June 1, 2003, 09:59 AM
Who advocate or applaud the deaths here? :confused:

rock jock
June 1, 2003, 10:06 AM
No one is.

genocidal mass-murdering jerk
This is a bit of hyperbole, don't you think? Two people have been killed in two separate events and while this is tragic, it doesn't qualify as a mass murder or genocide. The guy is simply your run-of-the-mill whacko. He has just been a little more disciplined in his planning and execution.

Oleg Volk
June 1, 2003, 10:09 AM
Friends,

If this thread must be re-started, please go easy on the hyperboles -- we are approaching a riot here...

Oleg Volk

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