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Drizzt
February 8, 2007, 10:08 PM
I was just wondering when we would start up again. I'v been a little busy lately, so it's hard to keep track.
NcongruNt
February 8, 2007, 11:09 PM
I'd be down for one. Where do they usually take place? Seems like outdoor ranges are getting more scarce in Austin. :( I recently started going to Dietz in New Braunfels. It's not the biggest place, but the price is right, and the ranges are decent.
jaytex1969
February 13, 2007, 10:35 AM
I wanna go....
Anyone here ever gone to that Eagle Peak in Leander?
Here's a link with several Austin shooting resources:
http://www.krtraining.com/FAQs/AustinGunFAQ.HTML
RodneyKSig
February 13, 2007, 12:14 PM
Just let me know and I will drive up from San Antonio and maybe I can get another couple of fellow High Roaders down from Waco.
db_tanker
February 13, 2007, 12:15 PM
no one has any property that they can offer?
I have tannerite. :)
D
MatthewVanitas
February 13, 2007, 12:25 PM
If one is held, I'll be keenly interested.
Might not hurt to check the past Austin Shoot threads in RP, and send a mass PM to folks who were interested in past shoots. Most of those folks requested to be pinged if future shoots were planned.
-MV
Stickwick Stapers
February 13, 2007, 02:05 PM
My husband and I go to Eagle Peak regularly. You have to buy a membership the first time ($10), but the range fees thereafter are a flat $10 per person, no time limit. Rifle ranges are 50 - 200 yds, pistol range 8 - 25 yds (I think), newly remodeled trap shooting area. The only restrictions I can recall are no rapid fire, no quick draw, no shooting from the hip on the pistol range. They rent spotting scopes, but I don't remember if they rent out firearms. They've got a nice little shop there, and the guys are pretty nice.
TX1911fan
February 13, 2007, 02:33 PM
No FMJ rifle rounds at Eagle Peak. Otherwise, great place. I'm a member.
MatthewVanitas
February 13, 2007, 04:13 PM
Just one option, but it might be easiest to hold it at Austin Rifle Club like we did last year.
No costs provided we have enough members to invite the non-members as guests (3 guests to 1 member ratio was acceptable last time), though last time we did ask for $5 donations to the ARC Juniors shooting club (great bunch of kids).
Location is good, no unreasonable limitations (FMJ okay, just no running-and-gunning).
-MV
carnaby
February 13, 2007, 04:14 PM
No FMJ rifle rounds??? How does that make any sense? Aren't Speer Match King and Sierra Gold Match FMJ? Or are those considered hollow points?
quatin
February 13, 2007, 05:14 PM
Oooh...that sounds cool. I'd like to join.
NcongruNt
February 13, 2007, 09:39 PM
Yeah, I've never been out to Eagle peak for the very reason that you can't shoot FMJ. There no way I could ever afford to go plinking with my Mosin-Nagant rifles if I had to track down and then pay out the nose for soft point rounds for them.
I'm also a fan of Dietz Gun Shop & Range out in New Braunfels. I've been going there for a few weeks, and it seems to be a pretty reasonable place. No Class III, but they have a decent rifle range with 25/50/100/200/and I think 400 yard target boards. It's a bit of a drive, but then again any outdoor range is these days.
I'd also be down for going to the Austin Rifle Club. I've heard a lot of good things about the place, and it would be nice to check it out and do some shooting there.
Also, Sundays would be best for me (I work Tues-Sat), if anyone's taking votes.
j1133s
February 14, 2007, 01:05 AM
Hey, I'm glad there's interst!
I think ARC would be a nice place to have the event. I'm currently an ARC member. I think having it at ARC can be beneficial both ways: ARC offers an excellent range that is both safe and clean; and by having the event there, we can introduce new people to ARC membership advantages.
I hope we can have it soon! If there are additional ARC memebers who's interested in this event, please post/PM/email. Like MV said, ARC member to guest ratio should be 1:3... so if you'd like to attend, please speak up and if you are an ARC member, please let somebody know!
thanks!
NcongruNt
February 14, 2007, 01:20 AM
I went to check out the ARC website to see if I could contact someone about membership... looks like it's down. Being a sysadmin, I checked out the problem... looks like they possibly changed hosts, and there are no DNS entries with the new provider's (theplanet.com) DNS servers, so no DNS resolution. Anyhow, any of you ARC guys who know who to contact, might let whoever's in charge of the site know. Also, if anyone can give me info on requirements for joining ARC, I'd appreciate it.
db_tanker
February 14, 2007, 07:07 AM
what are the lodgings like around the ARC?
And of course, the must have sit-down dinner for the first night. :)
If there is one close, my vote would be for the Saltgrass Steakhouse...
dead cow cooked real good... :D
D
tnieto2004
February 14, 2007, 03:45 PM
If there is a AUSTIN shoot let me know .. I'll come from Houston ..
cowboybobb693
February 17, 2007, 11:11 PM
Count me in. The ARC is not a bad place to shoot and you can use FMJ's.
I'm kinda cheap and I really don't want to foul my weapon using lead ammo so the range in New Braunfels is out for me, besides it's too far to drive.:evil: :evil:
There is a hotel in Manor (about 2 miles from the range) cannot tell you the prices but it looks pretty nice and it's only about 3 years old.
db_tanker
February 18, 2007, 11:52 AM
So do we want to try to do this before say...June?
That's 'bout when the heat starts fighting with the humidity for conversation. :p
D
Spreadfire Arms
February 18, 2007, 07:41 PM
austin rifle club is really more in Manor, it is off US-290 east of Austin about 15 miles give or take. as far as lodging, Manor has a few efficiency hotels, or you can go down to Austin and there are tons of hotels at IH-35 and US-290 (about 20+ hotels in that area of all flavors - Motel 6, La Quinta, Courtyard by Marriott, Doubletree, Studio 6, Econo Lodge, Super 8, Ramada Inn, just to name off the top of my head). if you prefer nicer accomodations you can go to downtown Austin which is about 30-35 min drive from the range.
i wish there was a good range we could use for a shoot. Eagle Peak is a meticulously kept range, but they have lots of rules. some people dont like going there because of their rules. i dont have a problem with going there but im not sure it would be conducive to an organized (or semi-organized) shooting event. they have a 5-lane CHL range there but they are very particular about when it can be used (basically a CHL instructor holding a class). other than that it is bench rest shooting out to 300 yds and some closer distances (15/25 yds) for pistol shooting. of course no rapid fire and absolutely no holster drawing. also for guys with the paramilitary guns you'll have to shoot non-FMJ ammo (meaning more expensive ammo).
HPJeep
February 18, 2007, 07:53 PM
I'm game so count me in. I thought the range in Manor closed down? Isn't that the Austin Rifle Club or is it a different range? Send me a notice of when and where!
MatthewVanitas
February 18, 2007, 08:46 PM
I thought the range in Manor closed down? Isn't that the Austin Rifle Club or is it a different range?
You're thinking of Austin Skeet and Rifle on 290. ARC is about a mile south of 290, off the main road, and is still open.
-MV
thumper723
February 18, 2007, 10:18 PM
I'd be interested, would drive up from Corpus or Kingsville. About 4 hours to Austin this morning on the bike.
boredelmo
February 19, 2007, 12:47 AM
I'd be game.
MatthewVanitas
February 19, 2007, 12:56 AM
I'm not volunteering to run it again this year (not that it was bad last year), but a few pointers.
--Last year this one went around in circles until someone finally suggested a specific date, and it all fell into place nicely. I submit that someone who's an ARC member should pick a date and time (not conflicting with any ARC matches), and then throw it out for the crowd.
--I still submit that ARC is the easiest option. Technically, if we have a 3:1 ratio, we don't even need to ask permission or anything (though it might be nice to mention that "a lot of members will be bringing guests on Day X"), or so it was explained to me when I asked permission last year.
--The ARC silhouette ranges worked pretty well; range was a little long for handguns, but big steel targets made that fun instead of frustrating, and let us enjoy the rifles more. Plus you get one lane of shotgunning off the far end of the Silhouette range, if someone wants to bring a mechanical thrower to use.
So I submit:
--Somebody pick a date, I suggest early/mid April, that doesn't conflict with an ARC shoot (at least on the Silhouette range)
--We figure out who here is an ARC member
--Someone with a slow day at work volunteer to mine the past AustinShoot threads on THR to PM folks and let them know this is cooking, especially the ARC members
--We get a 3:1 ratio, show up that Saturday, and maybe have non-members chip in $5 to donate to ARC Juniors.
It's pretty straightforward, even a snot-nosed college kid who's bored could handle it (not necessarily singling boredelmo out here, meant me too).
-MV
KenRocks
February 19, 2007, 05:07 AM
I'd pretty much guarantee that I'd go. Just need to save for ammo :)
peabody304
February 19, 2007, 09:21 AM
I'm interested. Also, I should have my ARC membership by April (mid March).
-peabody304
quatin
February 19, 2007, 11:59 AM
I'm a member, any weekend is fine.
j1133s
February 19, 2007, 01:38 PM
Just want to get this thing rolling w/ a date...
Would March 24 be OK with everybody?
Perhaps at ARC at 1PM (this gives people time to drive and comes after ARC's NRA smallbore competition)? http://www.austinrifleclub.org/index.html
db_tanker
February 19, 2007, 04:22 PM
weekend of the 24th or 31st would be bueno on my end.
MatthewVanitas
February 19, 2007, 06:59 PM
*checks calendar* UT spring-break is 12-17 Mar, so I'll be back for the weekend of the 24th.
Has anyone PMed the folks from the last 2 or 3 big Austin THR shoot? If you're bored at work, it'd be great if you can PM them w/ a link to this thread, as most of them stated they'd like a heads-up if a new shoot brews.
If you do so, please post here so that we don't double-tap them.
Last shoot (Jan '06) had about 30 "maybes" which turned into 18 actual shows. Great time was had by all.
-MV
Drizzt
February 20, 2007, 01:16 AM
I've been pretty busy lately, so it's been a bit difficult to check the boards, but I would love to do this again. ARC is probably the best option. Let me know what's decided.
j1133s
February 20, 2007, 12:56 PM
Has anyone PMed the folks from the last 2 or 3 big Austin THR shoot? If you're bored at work, it'd be great if you can PM them w/ a link to this thread, as most of them stated they'd like a heads-up if a new shoot brews.
I'll do that. I've gone over the last 3 Austin THR shoots and compiled the following THR members (alphabetically ordered) who may have expressed an interest. If I missed you, please feel free to PM me. I'll send a PM to all.
Either 24 or 31 March will work for me. Y'all figure out which is better for the majority and I'll be there.
Bobb
MudPuppy
February 20, 2007, 02:33 PM
I'm marking it on the calendar (I spaced and completely missed the last one).
Looking forward to it (again...). :D
perdurabo93
February 20, 2007, 04:55 PM
I'd be interested in a shoot in late March.
Another option would be Hill Country Rifle Range out between Bee Cave and Dripping Springs. They've got a 300m range, steel human torso silhouettes at 200m, plus target stands at 50m and 100m. Theyve got separate pistol ranges, one 25m with silhouettes. They allow FMJ and 50 cal and until very recently allowed NFA rifles on the rifle range. Subguns are still allowed. It would probably cost us, but Im sure we could clear a deal with the owner Richard for the meet-up.
BAT1
February 20, 2007, 05:29 PM
Hey I know Richard, and he would probably welcome us with open arms. He is closed from Friday 12:00 until Saturday 1 pm. He has targets, ammo, 5 ranges and he likes BBQ beef. I'll be going out there this week, and I'll mention it. He just went up from 5.00 to 10.00 a gun but he will work a deal on a group. I would love to meet all the people from THR. It's a really nice open setting in the hill country with a view!
j1133s
February 20, 2007, 05:36 PM
I think Hill Country Rifle Range is $10 first gun, $2 each additional, which is very reasonable. Especially when you realize that THR meet doesn't happen all that often!
Anyway, I have no preference between ARC or Hill Country Rifle Range, since both ranges are on the fringes of Austin anyway (one's in Manor and the other is in Dripping Springs). When we get closer to March 24, we can have a quick vote.
rritter
February 20, 2007, 07:50 PM
I could probably make the 24th or 31st of March - just need a bit of advance warning. Would this meet be mainly rifles, mainly pistols, or everything?
MudPuppy
February 20, 2007, 08:30 PM
he likes BBQ beef.
I can't believe he'd eat beef with all the local cases of Mad Cow that's being hidden from the public! :evil: (seriously, he said like 20 cases were being kept quiet at St. David's last year.)
Anyway, I'll shoot there--preferably he can take his crazy pills before we get there. (if not, no biggie, I got a whole bunch of Nutty McCrackers in my family and I deal with them okay.)
KenRocks
February 20, 2007, 09:11 PM
Late march is also great for me...was afraid it was gonna be in the middle of spring break for a minute there.
Hoping there is alot of pistol stuff going on...cause that's all I have to bring :)
MatthewVanitas
February 20, 2007, 11:05 PM
31 March would be better for UT folks
The UT 40 Acres Fest is on the 24th, and I hope to have most of the UT folks out propagandizing and herding folks into the shooting range.
Is the 31st markedly bad for any particular group of THRfolks?
Not trying to foul things up, but it seems we haven't solidified on a particular late-March day yet.
-MV
NcongruNt
February 21, 2007, 01:15 AM
Either the 24th or 31st of March would be fine for me.
NcongruNt
February 21, 2007, 01:21 AM
Oh, by the way... Last I heard from Richard (about a month and a half ago), the end of the world is coming on March 22nd, and he's going to be gone. That might put a kink in trying to schedule anything on the 24th or 31st with him. It might not be the most comfortable environment for any Jewish folks or anyone of color, either.
I'd rather go to ARC, personally. Hill Country has fallen into disrepair (likely due to the upcoming Armageddon), and the target boards are sorta falling apart and such, none of the sandbags have sand in them, decent benches are hard to come by, etc.
db_tanker
February 21, 2007, 07:01 AM
okay...put this to vote...
all in favor of the 31st say aye!
all in favor of the 24th say nay!
My vote is aye! (its a payday weekend for me...:D )
D
NcongruNt
February 21, 2007, 08:07 AM
aye
perdurabo93
February 21, 2007, 10:38 AM
I vote March 31 at HCRR
BTW, according to Richard, as of this past weekend, the end of the world is yet again postponed until sometime around this December ;) Richard is mostly harmless and I've been shooting there for about 7 years now. He generally wont bother you if you seem initially unresponsive to hearing "The Truth" or reading his admittedly very creative "literature".
As for the range conditions, the 100m and 50m target stands have been repaired, but you will need to bring your own sand/shooting bags and your own spotting scope if you intend to shoot off the bench and punch holes in paper. Thats all moot for me since I only shoot at the 200m steel silhouettes off the bench from standard field positions with mostly iron sights or 1x battle optics. If I wanted to punch holes in paper I'd go to Office Depot, not the range, though I can see that some people seem to like hole punching.
Until a couple weeks ago you could shoot anything you could shoulder there, including NFA/50cal rifles, but apparently since one of his neighbors found bullets in his yard recently he's suspended shooting full auto rifles on the rifle range but apparently subguns on the pistol range are still good. For those who havent been there in a couple ears, there are no longer any steel silhouettes on the 400m berm due to a property dispute of some sort so all the steel gongs and silhouettes are on the 200m berm.
db_tanker
February 21, 2007, 11:46 AM
I wouldn't mind ringing some gongs. :)
Gongs are fun with a FAL. :evil:
D
j1133s
February 21, 2007, 12:13 PM
31 March would be better for UT folks
March 31 is fine w/ me.
The more THR folks that can come the better !
quatin
February 21, 2007, 12:23 PM
:)
jaytex1969
February 23, 2007, 12:36 AM
I work until noon on 24th:mad:
Paid on 31st, too:D
Got 3 rifles I ain't fired yet:evil:
DeftwillP
February 23, 2007, 02:04 AM
Can we agree on the 31st then?? It seems to have the most appeal to everyone.
MatthewVanitas
February 23, 2007, 02:36 AM
Oi, my head is pounding; we had over 40 kids come by the UT range this evening. Thanks to MrKablammo and the others who've been coming by to help manage the workload.
Anyway, 31st is looking good. Now we just need to pick the range.
Does anyone have a compelling argument for ARC vs Hill Country?
ARC Pros: technically free if we have something like a 1:3 member/guest ratio, almost no slob-shooters, pleasant facility, easy to get to
ARC Cons: might step on some toes if we're not 1:3 member/guest ratio, pistol range and rifle range at separate areas, so if we want to shoot both it'll all be on a 40/50/75/100 Silhouette range (with clay-shooting corner lane for shotguns)
I don't know much about Hill Country except that Crazy Richard runs it.
-MV
cowboybobb693
February 23, 2007, 09:45 AM
31 March is Kosher for me:neener: :neener:
Texfire
February 23, 2007, 12:29 PM
Both March 24th and 31st works with my schedule, amazingly enough.
I'd prefer ARC if it's possible, but I'll go Hill Country if that's what's decided.
I used to live near Hill Country and went there a couple of times, but Crazy Richard scared me off eventually. I decided that there was no real way for me to know if he was your garden variety "crazy old coot", or the kind waiting for a triggering event to go postal. I didn't want to be around if he was the second type.
Looking forward to the shoot, I was disappointed that I couldn't make the last one.
Tex
perdurabo93
February 23, 2007, 03:08 PM
Like I said, Richard is harmless. Sometimes he'll sidle up to you on the range and rant a bit about the "End Times" if youre out the range alone, but if you dont show any particular interest he generally leaves you alone. Personally, I get a lot of entertainment out of his crazy theories. Have you ever gotten "the literature"? Its pretty damned impressive in terms of sheer detail and effort, despite being really, um "creative" in content.
In any case, Richard's personal eccentricities should be of no concern for the event, but I would recommend that whoever is organizing this event should call him up and let him know a group is going to be there.
If it comes down to more people voting for ARC, would probably come, but I would really prefer a range that had steel torso (not those silly damn animal shapes) silhouette targets out farther than 100m and that didn't have a lot of rules about what I could and could not shoot and how fast I could shoot it.
db_tanker
February 23, 2007, 08:52 PM
I am starting to lean towards this Hill Country place...
Richard seems like he might be worth the trip! :D Mebbe get some footage to send in to AFV.
I have to bring up one of the more important things...how are these places set up for food? Is there a local pizza shop that won't be fearful of delivering a couple pizza's to a range? :evil:
And for those who are driving in, mebbe a dinner meet and greet at a sit down place on Friday night possibly?
D
Texfire
February 23, 2007, 10:52 PM
Nothing near Hill Country, though Buster's BBQ or The Salt Lick are on the way back into town from there.
Not sure about ARC, haven't been there yet.
Tex
timn
February 24, 2007, 11:18 AM
I'll be there with at least one other shooter. If our wives and some other buddies want to go, I'll have a small crowb.
Table for six at the 15 yard line???? ;)
///
DeftwillP
February 25, 2007, 01:54 AM
mmmm....Salt Lick:D
I've never been to either place. How is Richard when large groups are around? That would be what concerns me.
db_tanker
February 25, 2007, 03:16 PM
Good brisket at the Salt Lick?
OKAY....
We are now set on the 31st...we know its going to be in Austin...
I am thinking that Crazy Richard's range will be the one I go for...I like the idea of rifle grade gongs.
what kind of rifle/pistol count are we looking at here? Per person, that is?
I am only bringing rifles. probably 4 or 5 depending on what I have ammo loaded for.
j1133s, can you confirm the cost of $10 for the first and $2 per additional?
How is he set for paper targets? Will a bunch of Acadamy or Wal-Mart paper make this guy go one or two steps beyond on us? staple guns and such or clothesline clips?
I have my caldwell stuff, but someone mentioned a lack of sandbags so that might be an issue for some so be aware...unless someone can shed more light on this issue.
Can anyone think of anything else as far as issues or needs?
D
DeftwillP
February 25, 2007, 08:17 PM
tanker,
Just order the all you can eat at the salt lick. Ribs, sausage, and brisket.
We're we talking about something else in the thread??? I forgot.:rolleyes:
MatthewVanitas
February 25, 2007, 08:27 PM
If we go to Hill Country, can we negotiate a group discount, maybe do away with the "per gun" fee?
If part of the fun of a THR Shoot is for folks to show off their toys, a $2/gun cost can really add up. If we're bringing the guy 15-30 customers at the same time, maybe he can flex on that a little.
Anybody here cozy with Richard, want send a feeler to check the likelihood of discount?
-MV
j1133s
February 25, 2007, 09:02 PM
I was at the Hill Country Rifle Range this Saturday, and the price was $10 first gun, $2 each additional. I don't think HCRR is set up to paper targets as I didn't see any target frames at all. On its rifle range, it has some paper set at 25 yards, but only metal at 100 and 200 yards.
I'd recommend the ARC over HCRR for a much better place to gather.
db_tanker
February 26, 2007, 07:11 AM
Yeah...cost may become an issue.
Well, do we have at least 5 members from ARC commited?
D
hoji
February 26, 2007, 07:52 AM
I would rather go to HCRR. It is a little farther for me to drive, but I like the range better.
MatthewVanitas
February 26, 2007, 02:59 PM
Well, do we have at least 5 members from ARC commited?
So far its jay113, myself, and quatin that I know of. I'm sure a couple others just haven't mentioned it yet.
Any other ARC members on this thread?
-MV
peabody304
February 26, 2007, 03:06 PM
Any other ARC members on this thread?
If all goes as expected, I'll become a member on March 15.
peabody
db_tanker
February 26, 2007, 04:56 PM
well, thats 12 other folks if Peabody gets his wish...might be okay, I think.
D
NcongruNt
February 26, 2007, 07:55 PM
I'm going to the orientation at ARC on the 17th. I'm not sure how long the application process takes, but If it's pretty quick, I could be a member by then as well.
As far as guns go, I'm bringing 3 rifles and a pistol. I'd personally rather go up to ARC, as I know it's kept up by its members. I mentioned previously about the sandbags, and unless something has changed dramatically, we won't have any at all. Also, the bench rest blocks are simply crude pieces of 2x4 nailed together, no carpet on them or anything else to keep from marring the barrel stock up on your gun. I've stopped going there in favor of Dietz in New Braunfels because the facilities are kept up, the target boards stay standing on their own without having to be propped up, there's proper blocks and sandbags for bench shooting, and the rate is fixed with no per-gun surcharge.
I'd rather go to ARC, personally and would gladly put a $10 donation to support the club. I'll go to HCRR if that's what's decided, it's just not my first choice. If we do go there, I'd suggest someone bring a bunch of sandbags (and maybe some target boards) along if they have them.
DeftwillP
February 27, 2007, 01:58 AM
I've never been to either, so my comments are basically invalid.
But....
Everyone who wants ARC gives valid reasons to support ARC and not HCRR.
Everyone who wants HCRR seems to say that they want HCRR and to support why.
perdurabo93
February 27, 2007, 12:11 PM
The main advantage to HCRR is steel targets out to 200m. They are a lot more satisfying to shoot than punching little holes in paper. No spotting scope required, just listen for the THWUMP!. There are 12" gongs as well as 20x30 torso steel targets on the 200m berm. Personally, I find shooting at paper targets extremely boring and generally only begrudgingly shoot paper when I have to sight in optics. However, there are target stands for paper punchers at 25m, 100m, and 200m at HCRR. Im not sure what the previous poster was talking about since they were definitely there when I was there weekend before last.
From what friends who are ARC members tell me, there is no steel targets maintained on the rifle range and at best they'll only be at 100m.
MatthewVanitas
February 27, 2007, 12:44 PM
Folks can and do bring steel targets to the ARC silhouette range. If we have folks who own steel, that'd make a difference. The silhouette range does only go out to 100m though.
-MV
DeftwillP
February 27, 2007, 12:49 PM
Well put then perdurabo. I'm open for either.
Is the date cemented yet? I vote for the 31st.
db_tanker
February 27, 2007, 12:56 PM
yeah...I think the 31st was in stone.
I personally can't speak for either place as I live a few hours away. :D
I don't mind where we shoot...as long as we shoot.
D
quatin
February 27, 2007, 02:16 PM
Folks can and do bring steel targets to the ARC silhouette range. If we have folks who own steel, that'd make a difference. The silhouette range does only go out to 100m though.
I didn't know that. What if some of us in Austin went to a scrap metal yard and picked up some stuff and tie it to chains?
db_tanker
February 28, 2007, 10:44 AM
Thats kinda what I was planning on doing. :D
We have some really thick aluminum.
D
NcongruNt
March 4, 2007, 04:29 AM
I was told by my CHL instructor that Richard is in the process of shutting down and the range land is being sold. If this is true, I'm guessing we won't be able to have the shoot there, and would need to plan for meeting at ARC. Does anyone else know the details on this?
Also, it's about 3 weeks out, so we need to make a decision soon so arrangements can be made.
db_tanker
March 4, 2007, 09:04 AM
Well, regardless of what Richard's situation is (sad as that may be as its another range shutting down.... :( ) I am guessing that the ARC will be the best bet.
I will call the panel to a vote.
All those in favor of ARC how say you? Yea or nay?
D
j1133s
March 4, 2007, 10:39 AM
ARC's rule is that steel can be shoot if place at least 40m away. I frequently bring steel targets to ARC and know many others that do. The range we use is the 40/60/77/100 meter silhouette range, where there are rails at those 4 distances. Although my steel targets are free standing swingers; the availability of rails allows falling targets and a location to tie the chain around (for making your own swingers), and I have seen people do that.
I don't know how well aluminum holds up to bullets, but I'm curious to check them out.
All my steel targets are rated for the .22LR round only (and not those super high speed ones at that). If there's interest in shooting some .22LR pistols and/or rifles, please let me know and I'll bring mine.
ARC also has a plinking range, where targets jcan be set up anywhere between 2 - 20 yards. Since this is <40m, we cannot shoot at steel. For reactive targets on the plinking rnage, I've used wooden blocks on my own wooden stand (only works on calm, non-windy days).
There're also target holders for posting paper targets at all ARC ranges.
j1133s
March 4, 2007, 10:55 AM
All those in favor of ARC how say you? Yea or nay?
Yea. I'm in favor of ARC.
I think you can't beat ARC for a cleaner, safer, better place to shoot outdoors in Austin at any price.
ARC is similar to Eagle Peak but without some of Eagle Peak's rules (e.g. no FMJ rifle ammo, only seated rifle shooting position, etc.).
ARC is much nicer than Hill Country Rifle Range, e.g. I think Richard hasn't put any maintenance into HCRR in over a year in anticipation of his "end of the world" is coming idea (I'm not kidding).
j1133s
March 4, 2007, 10:59 AM
I was told by my CHL instructor that Richard is in the process of shutting down and the range land is being sold.
He's in that process for over a year now :)
The range is still open; he keeps odd hours, so call first.
His old IPSC/steel bays are no longer available to shoot on; so he's only got 3 bays. There are no target frame holders in the last few months, so bring your own. Things are getting more and more dilapidated there with nobody fixing anything.
j1133s
March 4, 2007, 11:03 AM
ok, I think I got the unanswered questions in this thread. If your question isn't answered, then I have missed it... please let me know and I'll do my best to answer you.
Remeber ARC shoot is on March 31.
thanks.
-Ching
db_tanker
March 4, 2007, 02:06 PM
I thought about those, too j1133s...I was going to stop by Gander Mtn and get some of those 22 swingers...I even think they have some rated for up to 30-06 but am unsure as to what my 416 Taylor will do. :)
And I am not being facetious when I ask is there a ft.lbs rating for the ARS? The PSC has a 5000 ft.lb max on rifles...and I am just under that with my Taylor...I know it costs me alot more to load for it, but its a hoot to shoot. :)
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db_tanker
March 5, 2007, 11:36 AM
Just made reservations at the La Quinta Austin North.
Getting there Friday afternoon/evening.
anybody know any nice little gunshop-type places in the area that might capture my interest?
La Quinta Inn
Austin North
7622 I-35 North
Austin, TX 78752
(512)467-1701
D
perdurabo93
March 5, 2007, 11:55 AM
Most gun shops in the Austin area are insanely overpriced, but they are often a good place to go to fondle firearms before you buy online.
I recommend Tex-Guns down off Manchaca. Its a small shop, and they have a fairly good selection of milsurps and the shop owners are less Fuddy than your usual gunshop Bubbas. McBrides off 30th and Lamar is huge and has a really nice selection, but you might want to bring a barf bag with you to deal with the sticker shock. They routinely sell guns there at ABOVE MSRP and profit quite handsomely on people's ignorance. Heritage firearms up at anderson mill & 183 is decent, but the guys who work there have been incredibly condescending jerks to me every time Ive been in. There's a place called "Sportsmans Finest" up in Bee Caves that is great for a laugh. They cater to incredibly rich and ignorant clientele and have insane things like Holland & Holland double rifles behind the counter.
Cabela's down in Buda and Sportsman's Warehouse in Round Rock are great places to look around as well, but once again, their prices are crap. The only place you will get decent deals on ammo outside of buying online or at a gun show is Academy sporting goods, but in the past few months even they have begun to get on the ammo price gouging bandwagon.
If you want to talk to a real gun enthusiast who has a good selection and actually knows what the hell he's talking about, talk to Sam Randall at Action Pawn shop in Cedar Park. Yes, pawn shop. Sam handles almost all of the firearms for Action Pawn in central Texas and can generally get you anything you are looking for well below the sucker price you'd pay at a retail store or from even a Gunbroker dealer. He'll do special orders and transfers for very cheap as well.
timn
March 5, 2007, 03:53 PM
I'm in for ARC.
Also, want to hi to my new friend Guy.
I hope he has signed up on THR by now.
NcongruNt
March 5, 2007, 04:23 PM
Pretty much any shop here will be overpriced for almost everything.
Tex-guns is good for some of the rarer ammunition. I was able to find plentiful nice brass-cased boxer-primed 7.5 Swiss rounds there for about what you'd pay for wolf gold on cheaperthandirt.com.
Cost Plus 10% is a local shop (even smaller than Tex-guns) that will usually have what I need in a pinch. He's got a small selection of handguns (from what I could see), but be prepared to stand a while until he finishes his conversation/story with whoever is hanging out talking to him that day.
The extent of my dealings with McBride's has been holster-buying, since they're pretty much the only place in town that has a good selection as far as I'm aware (I needed one for my FEG PA63, and they had a bianchi that fits it perfectly). Their markup is pretty ridiculous. They capitalize on being the only gun shop in town in a very visible location, therefore the only shop a new buyer knows about. Granted, no one else has the inventory that they do, but that's what the internets are for. :)
All of the others mentioned previously I know enough about not to waste my time going there. The exception is the aforementioned Action Pawn, which I've only heard great things about, as perdurabo93 detailed.
If I need to buy ammo in large amounts, I'll make a drive out to Brenham and buy from the guys at ammunitiontogo.com (http://ammunitiontogo.com) and save on shipping. Plus, it's a nice drive, and there's Blue Bell made locally! They operate out of a large detached garage and a storage shed or two (they deal almost completely in internet sales, but welcome walk-ins) out there, and have always been great to deal with.
LHB1
March 5, 2007, 04:44 PM
Hey Guys,
If I have followed all the posts correctly, the shoot is scheduled at ARC for Mar 31, right? ARC sounds nicer and cleaner than HCRR. Assuming I can get thru a couple of doctor appointments in the next two weeks, I would be interested in driving over from Spring (just north of Houston) to shoot pistols (.22, .44 Mag, .45 ACP). How about some more details? Show up Fri pm, dinner, shoot Sat, leave, schedule, directions to ARC location, costs, etc.?
Good shooting and be safe.
LB
DeftwillP
March 6, 2007, 01:08 PM
Well I campaigned for the 31st, and now I have a wedding to go to at 14:00. Damn.:fire:
Have fun guys.
Blackfork
March 6, 2007, 04:31 PM
Just to the east of Austin between Elgin and Bastrop. Three days, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, May 18-20.
If you have never seen a LOT of people of all ages shooting ARs and match rifles....here's your chance. Just come in the main gate and go to the range. Don't drive out between the firing line and range even by mistake. Early we will be shooting at 200 yards and 300 yards, later we will be at the 600 on all days.
Or sign up and come shoot.
db_tanker
March 9, 2007, 12:54 PM
haven't seen a post here...everyone still up, right?
<crickets...>
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Texfire
March 9, 2007, 02:37 PM
Nobody here but us chickens.
j1133s
March 9, 2007, 04:19 PM
Sorry, I was really busy the past few days; I'm going to send another email out to all interested people to remind everybody of the time/location/etc.
Would there be interest in having a group lunch? (We can then proceed back for some more shooting if people want to shoot more.)
timn
March 9, 2007, 04:22 PM
I'm still in.
Been spreadin the word about our community and getting some new folks to join.
We're really looking forward to this event. My son and wife are pretty excited, too.
Does anyone really have the reins on this event???
I'll help any way I can if needed.
LHB1
March 9, 2007, 04:45 PM
j1133s,
I am interested in the Austin shoot on Mar 31 IF there are going to be some pistol events. Can't shoot high power rifle any more. Would like to see info on planned events, schedule, and map/directions to location, etc. Thanks for your help.
Good shooting and be safe.
LB
db_tanker
March 9, 2007, 05:00 PM
LHB1,
Not sure if this counts, but I was planning on bringing one of my TC frames and a 10" 357 and a 12" 223 barrel. You would be more than welcome to play with it ...got a friend who is getting ready to move some of his collection and might point you in his direction if you DO get interested.
D
perdurabo93
March 9, 2007, 05:07 PM
Does anyone plan on bringing any steel targets (gongs, torso, etc) for the ARC rifle (not merely pistol) range? Shooting at paper targets is about as interesting or useful as watching paint dry if you ask me. I don't have any of my own, but if no one claims that they will definitely bring some for the 100m range, I'll see if I can scare something up, assuming that isn't breaking some kind of ARC rule.
Also, will it be possible to shoot on the 300m range across the top of the range, or is that not feasible with that many people there?
LHB1
March 9, 2007, 07:38 PM
dbtanker,
Many thanks for the kind offer but I have ample pistols to shoot. I was just inquiring if there were going to be any pistol shooting opportunities or events for 1911's and revolvers. Hope so because I would like to come.
Good shooting and be safe.
LB
quatin
March 9, 2007, 07:52 PM
There's a pistol silhouette range. Goes out to 100 yards? I think..
MatthewVanitas
March 9, 2007, 07:56 PM
The 300yd range isn't usable on a Saturday; when it's in use, the entire rest of the range is off limits.
What we did last year: both rifles and pistols shot on the Silhouette range, which is 40/50/75/100yds (or something like that). With a few good-sized metal hanger targets, pistols are still fun at the 40yd range. I'll bring a case of clays to lay out on the various berms, which will be fun and reactive.
Agree that paper isn't too interesting for this kind of shoot, so a variety of hangers and easy-to-clean reactive targets should be good.
If some folks with more impressive rifles want to stretch a bit more, there's a 200yd range next to the Silhouette range.
-MV
thumper723
March 9, 2007, 08:10 PM
I'm still interested in coming..
May be in JAX batlling the courts though..
timn
March 9, 2007, 08:37 PM
LHB1,
We will be bring our 1911s and I'm bringing both my snubbies.
My son just got a new Taurus 24/7 in .45 and the new Taurus 1911.
I really want to shoot both. I got to run a magazine through one of the Taurus 1911s at the range last night. Nice shooter. I had a little trouble adjusting to the "snowman" sights but believe they would be pretty easy to get used to. It's a nice gun but I still like my old Colt.:)
So, come on out. I'll shoot with you.
db_tanker
March 9, 2007, 10:39 PM
are there things out there that we can use to hang metal targets to?
Otherwise, I can grab a few old sawhorses from the shop to use...
I will be bringing a few, I reckon. Targets that is. :)
D
NcongruNt
March 10, 2007, 05:57 AM
Speaking of steel targets, does anyone know of any good guides to making them?
I checked the forums here, and googled a bit, and couldn't really find anything.
I'd be willing to make my own to bring out, if I can get them done in time.
db_tanker
March 10, 2007, 02:51 PM
heh...mine are round...and a few squares maybe...
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NcongruNt
March 11, 2007, 01:47 AM
So I just get a square piece of steel and go prop it up on the berm? :scrutiny:
j1133s
March 12, 2007, 12:19 PM
So I just get a square piece of steel and go prop it up on the berm?
Even better: if you can weld a base to your square/circular/etc plates, ARC has 4 sets of 3-tier rails to set them on. Falling steel is a lot of fun to shoot!
If your steel has a hole in it, you can also tie them on those rails to make self-resetting targets. I have to admit, not as fun as falling steel, but a lot less walking. :)
We can shoot at 2 locations: the steels at the silhouette range E, with its 40/60/77/100m distances, the clay/wood at the plinging range B, with its 3-25 yard distances. Since this is a get-together (a chance to get to know follow THR'ers), I assume we'll be shooting as a group and moving together to the different ranges and helping the newer shooters out if needed. (I.e. don't worry if you aren't a great shot, I know I'm certainly not, come and have some fun.)
j1133s
March 12, 2007, 12:37 PM
Yes, pistols are definitely welcomed. I'm more of a pistol shooter than a rifle shooter myself so I'll definitely be bringing pistols.
It may be a bit of a challenge at the 40m range depending on db_tanker and NcongruNt's steel plate sizes, but pistols will feel right at home on the 3-25 yard plinking range.
Also, if you don't own/never shot a rifle, I'm sure there'll be folks to run you thru the basics and let you try some. Of course, the same goes if you don't own/never shot a handgun before.
quatin
March 12, 2007, 12:42 PM
Can we just put anything on the berms of E range? Or does it have to be hung on the rails?
tuckerdog1
March 12, 2007, 12:44 PM
I cannot say for sure I will be able to join you all, but work schedule permitting, I'll be there. If not, have a great time.
I would like to caution out of towners, before you make the drive, check the weather. The range is in a low lying area, and prone to flooding. If there have been heavy rains, very likely the range won't be useable.
If there has been even a "normal" amount of rain, the ground can get muddy. So you might want to bring appropriate footwear for marching out to the targets.
Don't mean to throw water on the affair ( pun intended ). But better you be aware & prepared. You'll have a better time.
Check out photo gallery water rescue.
http://www.austinrifleclub.org/index.html
Tuckerdog1
j1133s
March 12, 2007, 07:27 PM
tuckerdog1 is right about the range and flooding. If there's rain, I'll go to ARC range the day before to verify conditions and post if conditions are bad.
As for plan B... If ARC floods (or rains that day) and THR shooters show up, we can meet for lunch and go to an alternate range (Red's Indoor which is near ARC, and offers 100 yard rifle lanes and 25 yard pistol lanes).
Hopefully, Plan B won't be needed and we'll be shooting on a dry range on a sunny , windless day; but it is always better to be more prepared, thanks tuckerdog1.
NcongruNt
March 14, 2007, 08:08 AM
Oof. Red's at $13/hr is rough. Plus, on a Saturday, we're going to be waiting in line all day just so everyone can shoot.
I'd take HCRR over that as a fallback, personally.
hoji
March 14, 2007, 09:34 AM
(Red's Indoor which is near ARC, and offers 100 yard rifle lanes and 25 yard pistol lanes).
:what:
Oof. Red's at $13/hr is rough. Plus, on a Saturday, we're going to be waiting in line all day just so everyone can shoot.
I'd take HCRR over that as a fallback, personally.
+1 and at Red's you will be kicked out if you fire too quickly{ie. double tapping is not allowed , regardless of whether you are controlling your shots or not}
Spreadfire Arms
March 14, 2007, 04:11 PM
hoji wrote:
and at Red's you will be kicked out if you fire too quickly{ie. double tapping is not allowed , regardless of whether you are controlling your shots or not}
and you have to listen to old man Red.... :D
voortrekker
March 14, 2007, 06:20 PM
Hello Everyone,
I am new to THR.
I saw a post on the FALfiles re: an Austin shoot, which led me to THR.
I go to the Hill Country Rifle Range almost weekly. Reading the posts about ole' Richard almost laughed me off my chair. He's definitely way out there but he's harmless. (Has he told any of y'all about humans shape-shifting into reptiles yet?)
He did indeed sell his property, but somehow the range is still open. I was just there yesterday. He does not know how long the range will remain open.
I have not been to Austin Rifle Club.
I am interested in joining this shoot too if this would be OK.
I am a regular at the RWVA.org forum and used to be at FALfiles.com.
Anyhow, I'm looking forward to meeting some of y'all and shooting at ARC.
Spreadfire Arms
March 14, 2007, 06:49 PM
He's definitely way out there but he's harmless.
he isn't called Crazy Richard for nothing. what scares alot of people is that he always is armed and gets in your face when talking his senseless babble. i know several people who carry a 2nd (backup) gun when shooting at his range in case they need to shoot Richard. he's got alot of land out there and im sure he owns a shovel.
i think Richard is way off his rocker and wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone if he believed they were a danger to him. he's deathly afraid of Jews, i wouldn't put it past him to shoot someone just for being Jewish.
i stopped using his range once i heard that crap come out of his mouth (i went there once and once only). personally i think i can find another range without a nutjob.
Art Eatman
March 18, 2007, 05:31 PM
Ah, Little Dickie Sievers! I see he hasn't gotten better with age. I ran across him when I moved back to Austin in 1963; I'd known him back in school daze. (He really, really, seriously hates being called "Dickie". :D)
You can probably divert him by talking about Corvettes. He had an FI '63 that he'd occasionally set up for a percentage of nitro for the old hillclimbs by Mansfield Dam. The SOB beat me, in my Chev-Healey, dangit! Only guy who ever did. And, at one point, he had one of the ultra-rare tube-frame Superlight Corvettes.
Back when we started the old Hill Country Practical Pistol Club, we had all our matches at Sievers'. That was back when Chip McC was first getting into it, 1981.
March 31st at ARC, huh? Dunno if I'm up for getting anywhere near Austintatious, but at least I know where stuff is. No guarantees.
:), Art
HankB
March 18, 2007, 06:51 PM
I see he hasn't gotten better with age.Well, without him I wouldn't know about the covens of satanists setting up in the hill country, or the 47 lbs of plutonium the goverment put on Jupiter. :rolleyes:
But at least since he got a shave an a haircut a couple of years ago, he doesn't look quite so much like Charles Manson.
LHB1
March 18, 2007, 10:25 PM
Here's hoping we have nice dry weather not only on the 31st but also for a few days before to prevent a rainout or floodout of the get together.
Good shooting and be safe.
LB
hoji
March 19, 2007, 12:04 PM
The long range forecast is looking pretty damp. Where will the backup location be?
perdurabo93
March 19, 2007, 12:21 PM
If the alternate location will be Red's, you can count me out. I'd rather crawl through the mud up to my knees all day long than give one thin dime to Red Hyman.
j1133s
March 19, 2007, 01:56 PM
hi,
Seems like there're some objections to Red's as an alternative location.
The nice thing about Red's is that it is indoors, so we'll be able to shoot
no matter the weather. (I've found the people at Red's are friendly and
their range very safe. But it does get crowded during the weekends.)
There aren't too many ranges near Austin; here's what I know:
Red's Indoor (2 locations)
Hill Country Rifle Range
Eagle Peak (no FMJ rifle rounds)
Capitol City Skeet (shotgun only)
So how about this... (It's hard to please everyone, but let me try.)
If 3/30's weather forecasts rain for 3/31 or if I post (on 3/30) that ARC's
range condition isn't acceptable due to flooding, we can just meet for
lunch instead. (We can include an optional shoot and decide on a range
while eating.)
I hope this is acceptable with most people.
db_tanker
March 19, 2007, 02:50 PM
as much stuff as I am dragging out to this place, I will go buy me some duck-boots and shoot there at the ARC. :P
150+ miles to Austin for me...hotel...man...we better drop some brass. :cuss:
:D
D
cowboybobb693
March 19, 2007, 02:52 PM
I'll be there. Going to Red's as a back-up ?? I'll have to think that one through.
Going to Crazy Dickies( Richard) don't think so,He and I would not get along too well,I'm Jewish.
I don't need any crazy people in my life,I'm married!!!:neener: :neener: :neener:
Texfire
March 19, 2007, 06:24 PM
I'm in for whatever we end up doing.
Tex
voortrekker
March 20, 2007, 07:41 PM
Red's indoor range= expensive, crowded, too few shooting lanes and good probability one will be waiting for a lane- especially on weekends.
ARC sounds good- never been there.
Hill Country Rifle Range= fair price, many rifle lanes, suitable range for dropping a lot of brass and fine tuning the art of riflely. For those paranoid about Richard, going as a group it is very unlikely he'll talk to anyone about his "theories". And of the 20 to 30 times I've been there, I've never seen him packing any heat. I've never even seen him shoot any gun there period and it's his range.
hoji
March 21, 2007, 07:54 AM
The security company I work part time for had our "Top Gun" shoot there and got no lectures on "The Temple, The Jews, or any other end of the world goofiness.
I think as long as you dont engage him in conversation you will be spared the theories, and in a group, he will keep to himself.
perdurabo93
March 21, 2007, 12:00 PM
Would there be a problem with me bringing other guests along who are not ARC members? How do we make sure theres not too many people showing up such that theres enough ARC members to act as "hosts" for the non-members?
If ARC isn't going to work due to weather or political issues, I'd say HCRR is a good choice. As long as it isn't actively pouring down, HCRR is still a great range. The caliche out there soaks up the rain so it isn't all that muddy.
Also, as it turns out, Richard is now allowing full auto rifles again on the smaller pit range between the pistol range and the longer rifle range, so I can actually bring my select fire toys if its decided that we should meet out there instead. To be honest, I still prefer HCRR as a first choice as ARC is an unknown quantity to me as well.
Theres a new range way out just north of Williamson county out off 183 between Seward Junction and Briggs (no, not Stan's, further north of Stan's) called Astro Village. They've been open about a month and have some great facilities. Separate covered pistol and rifle ranges and they have steel targets on both rifle and pistol. Only down side is that the rifle range is only 100 yards and they require you to shoot off the bench (yawn). They claim that they'll be building a 300 yard range here soon and may allow people to shoot from field positions on that range. Cost is $12/head for all day no matter what you shoot (no NFA/50cal, sadly though I'll be working on changing their minds). Just another idea...
quatin
March 23, 2007, 03:48 PM
Weather will be fine on the 31st.
waterhouse
March 23, 2007, 04:54 PM
I'm sure as heck going to try and make it out again this year, it was tons of fun last year. I'll be praying for sunshine all week, it has been a little dreary out lately.
But at least since he got a shave an a haircut a couple of years ago, he doesn't look quite so much like Charles Manson.
It's funny 'cause it's true :)
NcongruNt
March 24, 2007, 05:34 AM
Yes, pistols are definitely welcomed. I'm more of a pistol shooter than a rifle shooter myself so I'll definitely be bringing pistols.
It may be a bit of a challenge at the 40m range depending on db_tanker and NcongruNt's steel plate sizes, but pistols will feel right at home on the 3-25 yard plinking range.
Also, if you don't own/never shot a rifle, I'm sure there'll be folks to run you thru the basics and let you try some. Of course, the same goes if you don't own/never shot a handgun before.
I'm gonna try and have several sizes available. I think I'm going to simply hang them from chains, as someone suggested.
NcongruNt
March 24, 2007, 05:46 AM
Have we decided on a time when we're gonna start showing up? I looked though the previous posts and didn't see one.
tnieto2004
March 24, 2007, 01:10 PM
Austin Rifle club 3/31 11AM
db_tanker
March 24, 2007, 03:19 PM
I will have two plates I can hang that are about 10" in diameter. I will also have some horribly cut 1" teflon sheets cut to about 10" square (don't laugh at them, they were cut with a portable band-saw and show it...) that I can hang up for some rim-fires.
Lastly, I was unable to cut the aluminum plate....SO....I was going to drag it out via dolly to the 100 yard berm and lean it up against it...I am sure that there are some folks out there that would like to see what an FMJ can do vs some of that...and I am still in search of more range fodder...
I was going to drag into town on Friday if anyone wants to meet up for some evening grub. PM me if you want and I will provide my cell and we can meet up when I get there, mebbe.
D
NcongruNt
March 24, 2007, 05:23 PM
I've got some heavy steel core for my Russian Mosin-Nagant rifles that might be interesting to put up against that aluminum :)
thumper723
March 24, 2007, 05:32 PM
I'll be there if I am not flying.. Unfortunatley, I wont know until 6pm on friday if I am flying that weekend.
db_tanker
March 25, 2007, 07:25 PM
Something else I have been kicking around....if anyone has stuff they would like to trade mebbe this would be a good place to bring it?
I know I can offer up 500 rounds of Wolf polymer coated 5.56, a set of RCBS .243 dies, a set of Lee 25-35 WCF dies, and a Redding crimp die for 44 Mag.
anyone else in the mood for Bartertown? :D
MatthewVanitas
March 25, 2007, 07:44 PM
I've got a ton of sealed WWB .45ACP ammo, numerous Marlin .22LR rifles, some accessories and holsters, etc.
I'll bring it all along with.
-MV
LHB1
March 25, 2007, 10:55 PM
Quote: "Austin Rifle club 3/31 11AM"
And we are still hoping for a dry, usable range when we get there!!!! Would like to get in some shooting with my .22 S&W M41, scoped .44 S&W M629, and .45 1911 pistols.
Good shooting and be safe.
LB
db_tanker
March 26, 2007, 07:02 AM
According to the locals the weather report is saying dry and pleasant...not like around here in the more southern
areas. :(
D
hoji
March 27, 2007, 01:02 PM
Weather report is calling for thunderstorms Thursday and Friday. It will be, at a minimum, VERY sloppy.
MatthewVanitas
March 27, 2007, 01:29 PM
If the weather is rainy in any of the days leading up to Saturday, ARC could be untenable. The range is down on a flood-plain, as in navigable-by-boat at certain times of the year.
Not trying to hijack the event, but if someone checks on ARC on Friday, and finds it to be water-logged, should the event be moved to HCR? It would seem far easier to move the event than to move the date.
Is someone still planning to go check out conditions at ARC on Thursday or Friday?
I'm certainly going to check in on this thread as we approach the date.
-MV
RomanKnight
March 27, 2007, 05:54 PM
The good news: I am now an official member of ARC, so I can bring 3 guests.
The not so good news: if it'll rain Thursday AND Friday, the range is out of question, it'll be a lake. If rain on Friday only, it's doable, but we need somebody to check it out in the afternoon/evening. (I could do it in the morning, but I'll work in the evening, and things could change =more rain)
j1133s
March 27, 2007, 07:06 PM
Just to quote myself:
If there's rain, I'll go to ARC range the day before to verify conditions and post if conditions are bad.
So, I'll post Friday if conditions are bad.
Note: I'm more curious to see how their Sunday high power match is going to look like... :evil:
MatthewVanitas
March 28, 2007, 03:32 AM
Note: I'm more curious to see how their Sunday high power match is going to look like...
I understand it involves rowboats.
Then again, maybe it'll clear up, and we'll all just wear shoes that are easy to clean when we get home.
j113s: Have we solidified a Rain Contigency Plan?
Do we all shoot a new azimuth and head to HCR, or to Red's?
-MV
NcongruNt
March 28, 2007, 04:40 AM
oof. I hope it's clear enough to shoot on Saturday. I'd hate to see all that plate steel I bought at the metal yard yesterday go unused.
db_tanker
March 28, 2007, 11:38 AM
So where is this Hill Country Rifle range at? :) lol
I don't care if I have to get some duck-boots, though...I would like to see the aluminum stand up to some stuff. :)
D
perdurabo93
March 28, 2007, 11:41 AM
Hill Country Rifle Range Directions. This map is old, but you still get the idea. BTW, FM 3238=Hamilton Pool Rd.:
We should have lunch together and discuss it. That way the folks who show up get say where they'd like to go. This THR meeting is really a social event with shooting as an added bonus.
Any restaurant suggestions?
BTW, I'm going to head out to ARC today and check out its condition since we've had a few day's rain already.
quatin
March 28, 2007, 12:09 PM
I understand it involves rowboats.
That would be freakin' awesome :D . There should be an event like that where you do an obstacle course with a rowboat and shoot targets. Kinda like the one in the olympics with the skis.
NcongruNt
March 28, 2007, 12:26 PM
I don't care if I have to get some duck-boots, though...I would like to see the aluminum stand up to some stuff.
And I'd like to get the chance to see my steel cores go through it :)
LHB1
March 28, 2007, 01:45 PM
Hope weather conditions will allow us to meet at ARC as planned. If we have to change plans and go to HCRR, I will probably take a rain check. Adding the additional drive across Austin to HCRR makes the round trip in one day from Houston a little too much for these old bones. I have commitments here on Fri night and Sun morning.
Good shooting and be safe.
LB
j1133s
March 29, 2007, 01:15 AM
Well, I went to the ARC range today and checked out the condition. It has been raining the last few days except today, and the range condition is swampy but shootable. We've shot in conditions like today's many times during ARC's matches. The key is to bring a pair of those rubber rain boots.
I'll post an update on the condition on Friday. But today's condition is fine.
hoji
March 29, 2007, 06:46 AM
Today's weather is calling for severe thunderstorms, with more on Saturday.
There is an alternative, but it is handguns only at this time.
http://ctxpta.com/
It is north of Lockhart, which is the Barbeque equivilent of the outlet malls in San Marcos.
quatin
March 29, 2007, 01:43 PM
I think unless the ARC floods then we should be fine (unlikely this weekend).
hoji
March 30, 2007, 07:40 AM
http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USTX0824.html
Friday's and Saturdays weather forecast.:uhoh:
The plan?
db_tanker
March 30, 2007, 11:20 AM
Well, regardless, I am heading out in a few hours...got me truck loaded up with the implements of joy. :)
Rain or no, I WILL be there.
832-217-9956
I will also have my laptop on for the ride up there so I will check on here from time to time while heading up.
I just hope Austin has 3G :cool:
D
quatin
March 30, 2007, 12:10 PM
There's a small roof over all the shooting lanes so light rain won't kill us.
j1133s
March 30, 2007, 12:19 PM
Hi guys,
I drove by the ARC range this Morning and the conditions are still fine for shooting.
The BIG PROBLEM is this Saturday's weather forecast: thunderstorms. Although the firing positions are covered, I'm not sure if people like to shoot in the rain; definitely, paper targets aren't going to work and the ground will be too soft to use my spinners.
****
I'd like to suggest that we, instead of meeting at the range Satruday, meet at a restaurant for an 11 o-clock lunch. ARC folks have liked China Star and Texas Land and Cattle restaurants near the intersection of Hwy290 and I-35. Please post if you're interested in lunch and an optional shoot after. So far, I've not received any restaurant suggestions.
We'll get to know fellow shooters and bs about our shooting abilities... Don't bs too much or we'll head out to the range for a demo :)
My cell is area code four zero eight 772-6227, note the area code, in case you want to reach me via voice.
NcongruNt
March 30, 2007, 01:12 PM
Well, there is still all the steel we're bringing. If my check comes in today, I'll also buy a whole mess of the splatter paper targets I normally use - they're waterproof.
As far as restaurants go, are you looking for only NE Austin? I know lots of good places, but most of them are central/downtown. How many people are we expecting?
waterhouse
March 30, 2007, 01:34 PM
I'm glad someone went to check it out . . . I fully intended to go shoot this morning but it has been pouring since I woke up.
I don't mind the mud, but if it is raining I'll probably be tiling the bathroom floor and saving the shooting for a prettier day. I'm just not hardcore enough to get wet unless there are birds to be shot. Hopefully the weather will hold and I'll see everyone tomorrow.
j1133s
March 30, 2007, 02:50 PM
Well, there is still all the steel we're bringing. If my check comes in today, I'll also buy a whole mess of the splatter paper targets I normally use - they're waterproof.
It's going to be a mess with paper, I can almost guarranty you. If I shoot in weather like this, I tend to head over to Red's indoor range.
As far as restaurants go, are you looking for only NE Austin? I know lots of good places, but most of them are central/downtown. How many people are we expecting?
I was just picking some restaurants close by ARC and Reds which is frequented by the ARC board, but I'm open to any.
I think there'll be _Zero_ turn out, but hey, you never know. Usually in these man vs nature situations, I find that nature wins much more often.
LHB1
March 30, 2007, 04:18 PM
Have to admit that the weather forecast for severe thunderstorms and flooding are causing me to consider taking a rain check until a better day presents itself. Not looking forward to making a round trip from Houston under such weather conditions, especially since I have to be back Sat night. Any chance of rescheduling for April 14th at ARC?
Good shooting and be safe.
LB
KenRocks
March 30, 2007, 04:35 PM
I'm still down to go, rain or shine. Have a few friends coming in from out of town (Houston) to join us as well.
Ill keep checking the forums as the hour draws nigh, or anyone in the area can feel free to give me a call (281 948 1552) for updates/to update me/restaurant suggestions/movie listings/place to sleep while in town/etc. :)
Texfire
March 30, 2007, 05:00 PM
Hi guys,
I drove by the ARC range this Morning and the conditions are still fine for shooting.
The BIG PROBLEM is this Saturday's weather forecast: thunderstorms. Although the firing positions are covered, I'm not sure if people like to shoot in the rain; definitely, paper targets aren't going to work and the ground will be too soft to use my spinners.
****
I'd like to suggest that we, instead of meeting at the range Satruday, meet at a restaurant for an 11 o-clock lunch. ARC folks have liked China Star and Texas Land and Cattle restaurants near the intersection of Hwy290 and I-35. Please post if you're interested in lunch and an optional shoot after. So far, I've not received any restaurant suggestions.
We'll get to know fellow shooters and bs about our shooting abilities... Don't bs too much or we'll head out to the range for a demo
My cell is area code four zero eight 772-6227, note the area code, in case you want to reach me via voice.
I'd say since you're the one herding these cats you should make the call. I'll be up for lunch and/or a shoot if it's not miserable.
Not so sure that I'm interested in shooting in the rain if I don't have to, but I wasn't really planning on doing much shooting anyway, I viewed it as more of a chance to meet and greet some of the people I know from THR.
Either way I suggest we get as much of a consensus as we can by this evening so people can check and know where we end up landing. Any changes after tonight will probably end up with someone not getting the message and missing connections.
Tex
db_tanker
March 30, 2007, 06:12 PM
I am here in Austin, in fact at the La Quinta on 35@183 so it won't hurt my feelings at ALL to meet up at the Texas Land & Cattle. :)
some good dead cow before any kind of shooting...hey...who can argue with that.
And regardless, I at least would like to put screen-names to faces. :scrutiny:
D
NcongruNt
March 30, 2007, 06:30 PM
Well, I'd agree that we should meet for lunch and then figure it out from there. I'll go pretty much wherever you pick. I'm thinking Hut's or Katz's would be a good spot, and probably not very crowded if it's raining out.
From the way it's looking, my guess is that we may not get to shoot unless we do Red's. I have reservations about that, because on a Saturday, everyone else is going to be doing the same thing, and we may end up waiting there forever just to shoot.
This is near the intersection of I-35 and hwy290 (about .5 miles
south of I-35 and hwy183 intersection). Mention THR if showing
up late so we'll be seated together.
My cell is area code four zero eight 772-6227.
KenRocks
March 30, 2007, 06:57 PM
Good choice...since I live at 183 and 35 :)
See everyone at 11 then.
NcongruNt
March 30, 2007, 07:01 PM
I'll be there. :cool:
db_tanker
March 30, 2007, 07:22 PM
Bueno
Texfire
March 30, 2007, 07:42 PM
Dead Cow at 1100. Check.
Tex
NcongruNt
March 30, 2007, 09:19 PM
It looks like the chance of showers past 10am has gone down to 40%, so we may get to go shooting after all! If it's anything like today and starts to clear up early, it may be some decent, albeit muddy, shooting weather.
That's the forecast from the Weather Underground, which in my experience has been the most accurate of any of the weather services online. Here's to hoping for some shooting!
j1133s: are you going to check on the range before we meet up at TLC? It might be a good idea to make sure the overnight and morning rains haven't flooded out the range.
NcongruNt
March 31, 2007, 12:27 AM
Woohoo! It's down to 30% after 10am. I'm looking forward to an afternoon of shooting. :)
MatthewVanitas
March 31, 2007, 02:55 AM
I'll be there at 11AM. By sheer good luck, my $200 tax-stamp came in yesterday, so I'll have my intergrally-suppressed Ruger MkII along with.
Even if I have to park my car up on the paved road, and skip around 200yds of mud-puddles to get to the firing line, I'm willing to shoot.
-MV
NcongruNt
March 31, 2007, 03:55 AM
I'm with you there. Unless it's coming down good, I'm up for shooting. I think the heavy stuff will have cleared by the time we get out there. I'll have a bunch of waterproof targets for paper shooting, and of course all the steel. :) I've got some thinner stuff good for 22 and lighter handgun shooting, as well as some 1/2" for the bigger stuff. It'll be interesting to see if my steel cores will be able to punch through that 1" aluminum. :evil:
db_tanker
March 31, 2007, 08:04 AM
I am curious still to see what the thick teflon will do with those 22's.
I actually feel bad because I didn't bring as many toys as I wanted to.
I also forgot my damn barter goods. Fine horse-trader I am. :mad:
Ah well...let me explore the continental breakfast here...honeybuns and three kinds of milk. :D
D
NcongruNt
March 31, 2007, 08:16 AM
Ah well...let me explore the continental breakfast here...honeybuns and three kinds of milk.
Fancy.
May I suggest a better breakfast? There's a really great taco place not far from you. If you get on I-35 south, take the 51st Street exit. Turn right (west) and take 51st until the first major intersection, which is Airport Blvd. Take a left, and I think the 2nd building from the corner is a place called "Tamale House". Best tacos around, man. The Juevos Rancheros are even better. If you want to wait for another hour and 45 minutes, you could even meet me there. I get off at 8 and am going straight there, then Home Depot for a drill bit and Academy for targets before everyone meets up at TLC.
db_tanker
March 31, 2007, 08:55 AM
Then I am gonna go find me a Starbucks and get me some overpriced coffee and try to meet you there....still got my cell from the earlier post?
eight three two 217-9956
db_tanker
March 31, 2007, 09:30 AM
GAH!!!!
Epoch coffee ROCKS bro!
Thanks for the steer in on that one!!!!
Mexican Mocha is muy bueno :p
D
NcongruNt
March 31, 2007, 09:48 AM
I see you've found the wireless as well. Epoch is my regular hangout... I'm usually there for a good 4-6 hours, 5-6 days a week after work. :) It's a great place with great people and good coffee. It's like Cheers, but with coffee instead of beer.
hoji
March 31, 2007, 11:01 AM
Sorry but I will not be joining y'all. Got called to work last night and tonight.
Got home about 5:00am due to filing reports. Maybe next time.
Have fun and try not to get too muddy.
db_tanker
March 31, 2007, 11:43 AM
Well...you guys that didn't come thinking it was going to be a wash-out...sorry?
Sunny, a medium breeze and cool right now...couldn't ask for better weather, folks. :)
D
waterhouse
March 31, 2007, 06:15 PM
A big thank you to whoever put this together, as well as everyone who attended, and also to mother nature for making it the best day to be outside in about a month :)
Texfire
March 31, 2007, 08:14 PM
Fun time was had by all. We had a little steak then headed out to the range. Banged a little steel and killed some clays. I'm impressed with how easy everyone made ringing steel gongs with handguns at the 40yd berm look.
It's always nice to put a face with the name. I'm looking forward to next time we can get together to shoot.
Oh, and Matthew, had fun shooting that silenced Mk II. Ping, CLANG! Ping, CLANG! :)
Tex
j1133s
March 31, 2007, 08:22 PM
Thanks everyone for coming out given the thunderstorm weather forecast. As it turned out, it was a sunny, cool day -- good shooting day. We had a dozen folks come for the lunch, and after lunch, we headed out to ARC range.
I'm the first guy to leave at about 2:30PM due to a previously planned engagement. But everybody was still busy shooting and chatting. The weather turned out to be very good, especially for central Texas at this time of the year!
BTW, the TLC lunch was good; although a bit too much in terms of quantity.
KenRocks
March 31, 2007, 08:25 PM
Had a blast...shot some things I never thought Id get my hands on.
Now I need a FAL...
Thanks to everyone for making us welcome, since I'm far from a regular poster or anything. Also looking forward to seeing pictures whenever theyre up.
db_tanker
March 31, 2007, 10:27 PM
Made it back home in pretty good time. :)
Didn't really want to leave, but man, by the time I got home I was tired of looking at my steering wheel. :P
For the folks that got us into the ARC thanks to you boys for the hospitality. :)
And I can't believe you guys...you liked a FAL but not a Taylor? :neener:
After some of the loads I touched off, I DIDN'T even want anything to do with that damn monster...even my cast bullet "light loads" felt rather stiff. :eek:
Anytime you want to throw another one together, count me in....I need very little excuse to visit the hill-country.
I will get the pics off my camera either Sunday or Monday. Get 'em to a manageable size and put 'em in photobucket.
Bueno, folks
D
goose_97
March 31, 2007, 10:53 PM
Thanks again for all of the hospitality y'all. And a special thanks to whoever it was that paid off the weatherman and arranged for the perfect shooting weather. Count me in for the next shoot! I'm going to start collecting scrap steel from the jobsite so we should have gongs galore to bang away at by the time the next shoots rolls along.
Hasta,
Charlie
BAT1
March 31, 2007, 11:23 PM
Was called to work this morning, it was 4 pm by the time I started out. Had never been there before, and every time I asked for directions, it was the wrong ones. Got there at closing, so maybe better luck next shoot. At least I know where it is, and I'll get the 75.00 yearly membership for the combo. Really wanted to meet the members, but at least I didn't have to clean my guns when I got back. I'll just go to Richards place tomorrow for a sermon. Unless it's happening Sunday. Oh well.
thumper723
April 1, 2007, 12:47 AM
Wish I could have made it..
I had to fly late last night, and was dead tired when I landed.
quatin
April 1, 2007, 01:12 AM
Good times today. I got the pictures off my camera and I have to say I'm a little disappointed in having taken so few pictures :(. I guess I (and everyone else) was way too occupied with shooting guns to shoot some photos. I don't have any pictures of those nice looking pistols everyone brought (except matt's ruger). I have some nice pics of tankers 416 taylor though, left a real imprint on me ;). By the way, does anyone object to having their picture posted on the web?
NcongruNt
April 1, 2007, 03:19 AM
Thanks everyone for making it a fun day. I enjoyed talking to all of you, and shooting all your guns. :) Thanks to everyone for bringing out lots of fun stuff to play with.I look forward to seeing everyone's photos.
db_tanker
April 1, 2007, 11:46 AM
quatin made a good point...anyone object to photo's of them being on the net?
Texfire
April 1, 2007, 05:08 PM
I don't.
Tex
KenRocks
April 1, 2007, 07:47 PM
Wouldnt bother me in the least.
Mr Kablammo
April 2, 2007, 12:26 AM
Did everybody get all of their equipment?
NcongruNt
April 2, 2007, 01:41 AM
Anyone get any pictures of me shooting? I meant to have someone do some with my camera, but forgot. I'm gonna get some shots of the aluminum here in a bit and post it.
db_tanker
April 2, 2007, 11:30 AM
didn't leave any shooting irons or my base and bag...not so sure about my ammo boxes I haven't gone through it all....been a bit busy over the past several days.
I didn't get any of you SHOOTING NcongruNt. Sorry bro. :(
D
quatin
April 2, 2007, 11:35 AM
I don't have any pics of ncongruNt either. Someone did leave behind 3-4 handgun magazines.
This is what I have that turned out presentable...
And I only had my PA-63 and all my mags were present.
I think the funniest shot I took was of Matthew shooting my 416...damn thing was almost as big as he was. :D
D
Texfire
April 2, 2007, 01:50 PM
That would be me. :banghead: Just checked my gear and realized that I left the extra mags for my XD and CZ82 behind. How's that for a brain fart?
Tex
Update- Found the 82 mags in my Big Drawer o' Stuff(tm) and Mr Kablammo was nice enough to pick up my XD mags and contact me. He's even offered to drop them off at our mutual favorite gun shop this weekend, so the lesson has become less painful, just embarrassing. :)
Texfire
April 2, 2007, 01:55 PM
Nice pictures DB Tanker. We definitely marked up that gong we hung at the 40 yard berm. :)
First time I've shot at steel at that distance with a handgun, cowboy shooting is pretty close in for the revolver targets. I was surprised at both how challenging it was to consistently hit, and how satisfying it was to make it ring.
Tex
KenRocks
April 2, 2007, 01:55 PM
Hm...rules me out. I'm still too broke to afford more than the one mag for my .45... :)
Thanks for the pics, Tanker...especially appreciate the random one at the end of my goose-stepping shin deep through the mud, lol...
fourtwentytexas
April 2, 2007, 02:17 PM
Hi guys! New to THR but it sure is good to see so many Texans. :D
j1133s
April 2, 2007, 04:35 PM
We definitely marked up that gong we hung at the 40 yard berm.
Tex Fire, You were shooting at 40 meters (~44yards)!
We had steel/teflon sheets/clay set up at 40, 60, 77, and 100 meters, and I'd like to thank those who brought out the targets. Also, everybody helped in resetting them... even those w/o waterproof shoes! As you can see from DB Tanker's pics, there's this pond in the middle of the range that folks had to walk thru :)
All told, the last people left the range at around 7 something PM.
db_tanker
April 2, 2007, 06:52 PM
Thanks for the pics, Tanker...especially appreciate the random one at the end of my goose-stepping shin deep through the mud, lol...
Couldn't resist...saw you and your bud out there...not so much goose-stepping but tip-toeing. :)
Just be thankful I didn't have it turned on to take movies. :evil:
Drop a line when you move back to Houston and we might hook up for a range day mebbe...Thanks again for the 30 WCF brass, too. :)
D
Drizzt
April 2, 2007, 08:17 PM
Sounds like you guys had fun. I wish we could have joined you for the range, instead of just joining for lunch, but the timing just wasn't right. Next time, I'll be sure to make it.
quatin
April 2, 2007, 09:16 PM
All the cameras were crowded on one side of the range :). We all took pictures of the same thing.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3991/dscf0832pa5.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0832pa5.jpg)
texfire with matt's canned ruger mk II
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6079/dscf0833jz3.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0833jz3.jpg)
different angle
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/2732/dscf0834cl0.th.jpg (http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0834cl0.jpg)
everyone at thte firing line
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4986/dscf0835ca3.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0835ca3.jpg)
tank with his fal
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7057/dscf0836yk1.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0836yk1.jpg)
ken with tanks fal
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6729/dscf0839xa3.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0839xa3.jpg)
? with tanks fal
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6501/dscf0840sy2.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0840sy2.jpg)
me with my savage
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2359/dscf0842qj4.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0842qj4.jpg)
tank with his k31
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/2507/dscf0843jq1.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0843jq1.jpg)
matt with his marlin .22?
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9877/dscf0844ew3.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0844ew3.jpg)
matt with tanks fal
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1913/dscf0845dh2.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0845dh2.jpg)
me with texfire's su-16
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2313/dscf0847rx0.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0847rx0.jpg)
.223 and steel?aluminum?
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1439/dscf0848xr3.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0848xr3.jpg)
left is .223 middle and right is .416 taylor.
The rifle is tank's .416 taylor on a mauser action.
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5310/dscf0849cs1.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0849cs1.jpg)
matt with his canned ruger
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