[brownie0486]

Since I have taken several PM's from people in the S. Cal area lately about a posible course date in their area this year, I offer the following to the members here.

I would be willing to come to that area in the fall if memebers here can swing getting a minimum of 10 and a maximum of 20 people together.

"Bruz" and "Penforhire", posters, have inquired and live relatively close, if you are from So. Cal and would like to be included please connnect with them or myself on PM's and we'll attempt to get something lined up for you folks this fall.

It can't happen until November as I'm on the Snake river in Idaho in October for a week with my instructor and old friends from the Riddles.

Brownie

[Bruz]

If anyone wants to keep tabs here I'll start the count...I hope.

1. John Nix
2. John Nix Jr.
3. Kelly Nix (maybe)
4. Brad O'laughlin (maybe)

I also have an office in Arroyo Grande that can be donated for the training.

[Psssniper]

Arroyo Grande and Southern Calif in the same sentence??:D


Depending on the cost and the location of the "So Cal" class
I would be definately interested.

[Wilhelm]

You can throw a great big whoppin maybe on me. Keep me posted I am very interested.



Wilhelm

[brownie0486]

Bruz,
Add Penforhire, Combat-wombat and Psssniper as posibles to your list please.
The cost will be reasonable.
Lets get 10-20 together as possibles and work out the details for all and see where we stand in a few weeks or a month.

Brownie

[Bruz]

Arroyo Grande and Southern Calif in the same sentence??

True, for those who care but do not know Arroyo Grande is bout half way between San Fran and LA on the coast, making us Central Calif I rekon.

Where are the rest of those interested located?

[Combat-wombat]

Atascadero is exactly halfway between L.A. and San Fran. I could get my folks to drive me a couple hours at most. We need no less than 10 people in the class. If it's more than 10, it has to be more than 14. Anything else and I can't afford it.

[Penforhire]

Brownie, I assume you're thinking of a class that at least starts with basics? Or is there some prerequisite study you recommend? Similar question about equipment, would my Kershaw Whirlwind be sufficient or ?

I'm in the LA area but would go as far as San Diego.

Eric

[brownie0486]

Penforhire:

Thats correct sir. Trainers are provided to participants, bring gauntlet or ace bandage to wrap the wrist that holds the knife, eye protection, and any live blades you normally carry legally [ though they won't be used in class ].

Brownie

[Psssniper]

Bruz
I have some good friends in AG, so at least I'll have a place to stay! I am currently in south orange county, ca

[Bruz]

bring gauntlet or ace bandage to wrap the wrist that holds the knife


Gulp, is a gauntlet like a tourniquet or somethin? :scrutiny:



I have some good friends in AG, so at least I'll have a place to stay!


Psssniper, if we end up having it in Arooyo Grande that is good you’re handled...

Combat-wombat is only 45 minuets north...

Penforhire, if you went north instead of south how far could you go?

Wilhelm, where are you located? Are you close to Arroyo Grande/ Pismo Beach area?

It’s a great vacation area if anyone wants to beat the heat...or beat the cold if its winter. :rolleyes:

Brownie, maybe we could get more interest if we post what it will cost per person...

[brownie0486]

Morning Bruz:

If you can supply the room, an average room will do for up to 14 people usually with no problem.

I can train up to 20 per class but would prefer to keep it to 14 or so.


BTW--a gauntlet made of leather covering the wrist will certainly help diminish the bruises we'll get from two days on banging the blades. I have had students use ace bandages that work well. Most complain of sore wrists after the first days training.

Add KJay as a prospect from the forum as well please. He has expressed interest.

Brownie

[Penforhire]

Bruz, I could see going as far north as S.L.O., my son-in-law's graduating from there in two weeks.

Brownie's cost of training in almost insignificant compared to travel cost, depending on where you hold it. It can be hard to find a cheap room near S.L.O. and, as a touristy destination, hotels are sometimes booked far ahead.

For instance, assuming we paid, round number, $100/day tuition, I would easily pay $200/day and end up ahead if it were held within an hour's drive of LA.

[Combat-wombat]

How 'bout Santa Barbara? It's about halfway between L.A. and SLO. SLO would be ideal for me, but I could probably get down to Santa Barbara.

[Kjay]

Guess no one wants to come to San Diego? SB and SLO are outside my defined range of SoCal. :scrutiny:

[Bruz]

At only $75. per day I would think there should be enough people responding that Brownie would need to put on 2 classes! Maybe a Central Calif and a Southern Calif. class.

Both Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo are half to one hour from here so either would be fine, if we had it here we could use my office for free though. I think it would be hard to find anything in the other areas mentioned for less than a couple hundred per day, but that is just from my experiences finding conference rooms. Don't know everyones schedule either, any day would work for me but week day afternoons and evenings are best.

$150. for two days of training should be manditory to carry a knife for self defense...what did I just say? Think I have been in Kalifornia too long! $150. is very cheap insurance though, small price to pay if ever needed.

[brownie0486]

Bruz,
I received this PM on the glocktalk and would appreciate your adding this email address to the list of prospectives. He and a friend may attend if the timing is right. His message below for your review.
Thanks
Brownie

Sir,

I would be interested in the training and I might have a friend that also might be interested if there isn't a scheduling issue. Please contact me via email with any additional information you need.

Joshua Burmeister
burmeister.joshua@faso.navy.mil

Please let me know when you have more details.

Very respectfully,

Josh

[Wilhelm]

The further along this goes the more interested I am.


Wilhelm

[SamIam]

One more vote for San Luis Obispo, 5 Cities, or Santa Barbara.
Count me in.

[JShirley]

Please contact brownie0486 via PM or email for price info.

Thanks,

John

[Combat-wombat]

any updates yet?

[Andrew Wyatt]

Put me down as a definite maybe.


I'd like to take some edged weapons classes, since i've not gone to skul in that area yet.

[brownie0486]

"Bruz" from this forum has a running list of people interested in the class this fall after I get back from the Snake River in Idaho in October.

We are looking at November, some weekend. Two days of training.

Everyone touch base with Bruz on PM's that are interested and see if we can get solid on this in the next few weeks.

I'm ready to impart the knowledge when you folks are ready to go.

Brownie

[Bruz]

Have had alot of e-mails regarding the training deal our Brownie is offering us, hopefully this will answer some of the questions.

What I have heard Brownies' class is high energy like the training one would receive through Keating. Among others Brownie has had training from and with Keating. The training is planned for November and will be all day Saturday and Sunday at $75. per day. It is looking as though this is going to be open to all but designed to be convenient for California residences. We have a building for free in Arroyo Grande which is bout half way between LA and San Fran on the coast. It is a great vacation area if anyone wants to make a holiday out of it. Year round temperatures run 72 degrees. All supplies are provided but it is suggested you bring wrist protection as there will be allot of contact with your wrist.

The class is open to beginners and experienced alike, different skill levels will be matched up and the whole day is dedicated to paring back and forth based on the knowledge imparted by our expert. Training is based on everyone's need to protect themselves with knife and hand in today’s uncertain environment. This is not a lecture; this is hand to hand based on real life experience.

Brownie has agreed to fit us in his busy schedule...among many others Brownie trains Police Officers so this is a great opportunity to all those who can take advantage of this training. There are probably 15 "maybes", but we need to start firming the number up and get deposits. Because of the size of my office Class is limited to the first 15 who give a "for sure" followed by a deposit.

Any other questions feel free to e-mail me.

[Combat-wombat]

For me, I can't be too far away from home because if it's all day Sat. and Sun., I will have school the next Monday, so I would have to get home quickly. Arroyo Grande would be great for me

[Bruz]

Well, looks as though this is really going to happen! We have 8 for sure and around 12 maybe's. The training will be held in Arroyo Grande, I will post directions when we get closer, but as mentioned it is on the coast about half way between SF and LA, off Hwy 101 in San Luis Obispo County (about 60 miles north of Santa Barbara). It will be the second weekend in November, 2003.

When we have the 15 maximum we will be getting 50% of the money up front for the deposit. To keep track add your name to the list by coping and pasting it in the next slot and post it on the forum so others can see if there is any space left.

1. John Nix (Bruz)
2. Kelly Nix
3. J.J. Nix
4. Brad O'Loughlin
5. Brian Stuart
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

[Combat-wombat]

1. John Nix (Bruz)
2. Kelly Nix
3. J.J. Nix
4. Brad O'Loughlin
5. Brian Stuart
6.Henry Dingman (very, very likely, parents have almost agreed to pay)
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

[Bruz]

1. John Nix (Bruz)
2. Kelly Nix
3. J.J. Nix
4. Brad O'Loughlin
5. Brian Stuart
6. Henry Dingman (very, very likely, parents have almost agreed to pay)
7. Dave Lowe
8. Paul Marquis
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

[SLOdraw]

1. John Nix (Bruz)
2. Kelly Nix
3. J.J. Nix
4. Brad O'Loughlin
5. Brian Stuart
6. Henry Dingman (very, very likely, parents have almost agreed to pay)
7. Dave Lowe
8. Paul Marquis
9. John Rogers
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

[SamIam]

1. John Nix (Bruz)
2. Kelly Nix
3. J.J. Nix
4. Brad O'Loughlin
5. Brian Stuart
6. Henry Dingman (very, very likely, parents have almost agreed to pay)
7. Dave Lowe
8. Paul Marquis
9. John Rogers
10.Dave K.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

[brownie0486]

Fellas, if the roster gets over 15 before you decide we can probably squeeze a few more in without any problems.

Brownie

[Bruz]

1. John Nix (Bruz)
2. Kelly Nix
3. J.J. Nix
4. Brad O'Loughlin
5. Brian Stuart
6. Henry Dingman (very, very likely, parents have almost agreed)
7. Dave Lowe
8. Paul Marquis
9. John Rogers
10. Dave K.
11. Tom Jacobs
12.
13.
14.
15.

Talked to Brownie and let him know the largest room in my office building is at the minimum required tp do the training so we will have to limit the class to the first 15 to sign up...even at that it will be "close quarters" training. :scrutiny:

As soon as we get the final four spots filled we will be getting a $75. deposit from each to hold our position. I talked to someone who has had training from Brownie and he said in the two short days you feel competent to handle your knife and comfortable in self defense situations.

[Psssniper]

1. John Nix (Bruz)
2. Kelly Nix
3. J.J. Nix
4. Brad O'Loughlin
5. Brian Stuart
6. Henry Dingman (very, very likely, parents have almost agreed)
7. Dave Lowe
8. Paul Marquis :D
9. John Rogers
10. Dave K.
11. Tom Jacobs
12. Paul White
13.
14.
15.

[Combat-wombat]

So, exactly where in AG will this be held? just curious

[dav]

I'm certainly interested, but like Psssniper, I don't think anything north of Los Angeles counts as So Cal.

I'm in San Diego, and would be more interested in a more local location. I won't sign up for this one. AG and SLO are too far for a week-end class for me.

If there is enough interest that two classes are formed (one calling itself So Cal and one actually *in* So Cal) then let me know. <g>

[Penforhire]

I have to say I'm with Dav. Too far. I was up in Atascadero for my son-in-law's SLO graduation a few weeks ago and traffic up and down the coast was just insane.

[Combat-wombat]

Really, traffic isn't bad at all in Central Kali. Sometimes when there's a big event it is, but mostly, it is not a problem at all.

[Psssniper]

C'mon dav, make the drive! It'll be fun.

[Dan Shapiro]

I'm with Dav :D You can count my wife and I in if you ever come below L.A.

[dav]

Psssniper wrote:
C'mon dav, make the drive! It'll be fun. If you mean the class, I agree whole-heartedly.
If you mean the drive, I don't think so!:D

(sorry, would like to, but I'm still gonna have to pass on this one)

[Bruz]

Well, it took 10 to make a full class, and we have 12 so we better book Brownie before it is too late. We need to collect a 10% deposit, so each member needs to send $75. to reserve their place.

Brownie has asked me to collect, but if anyone is uncomfortable with that the money can be sent directly to Brownie. I can accept Paypay, but they charge me 3% so a total of $77.25 would need to be sent.

Please make sure you give your forum name, real name, e-mail addy, address, and full phone number with any payment or comunications.

My e-mail and Paypal account is advantagerealty@charter.net .

My phone # is 805-929-5584, and I screen my calls.

Send checks/ MO to my business office (which is also the place of training),

John Nix
508 Grand Ave.
Arroyo Grande, CA 93444

Further instructions will follow, but Grand Ave. is the main exit for Arroyo Grande off of Hwy 101, in San Luis Obispo County. The officie is 5 blocks west of the Freeway on the way to the ocean, on the opposite side of the Freeway as Lake Lopez. http://www.mapquest.com/

Looking forward to meeting everyone, John.

[Bruz]

We are about to lose this training class...if you have signed up and not sent in you deposit please do so ASAP, or contact me if you have further questions.

[Psssniper]

Bruz
Sorry about that I hadn't heard any updates. I will remind dave and will get you the $$ asap. thanks
Paul

[Bruz]

Thanks Paul...maybe I should e-mail everyone who said they would be going but have not sent in thier deposit yet.

A little trick I recently found out about, at the bottom of the thread is a "subscibe to this thread" that when clicked will e-mail you with any updates.

[Bruz]

To keep tract I will be posting who has paid their deposits below...

1. John Nix (Bruz) - Paid
2. Kelly Nix - Paid
3. J.J. Nix - Paid
4. Brad O'Loughlin - Paid
5. Brian Stuart - Paid
6. Henry Dingman
7. Dave Lowe
8. Paul Marquis - Paid
9. John Rogers - Paid
10. Dave K.
11. Tom Jacobs
12.
13.
14.
15.

[Bruz]

Thanks Dave!

1. John Nix (Bruz) - Paid
2. Kelly Nix - Paid
3. J.J. Nix - Paid
4. Brad O'Loughlin - Paid
5. Brian Stuart - Paid
6. Henry Dingman
7. Dave Lowe - Paid
8. Paul Marquis - Paid
9. John Rogers - Paid
10. Dave K.
11. Tom Jacobs
12.
13.
14.
15.

[Combat-wombat]

Okay. I am trying as fast as I can to get the money. I'll probably have it in a few days. So it's a total of $150 for both days, right?

[Bruz]

So it's a total of $150 for both days, right?

That is correct sir.

[Bruz]

OK, once again we are running out of time...Brownie has to have his schedule far in advance, and in order to reserve his class we need 10 people with their 50% deposit by Ausust 15. If your name is not on the list below contact me or post here to reserve your place. The room we have is not very big so we have set the limit at the first ten. If we do not have a full house by the end of this week I'll post it on another forum to see if we can fill it up, or if you have a friend that wants in now is the time!

1. John Nix (Bruz) - Paid
2. Kelly Nix - Paid
3. J.J. Nix - Paid
4. Brad O'Loughlin - Paid
5. Brian Stuart - Paid
6. Dave Lowe - Paid
7. Paul Marquis - Paid
8. John Rogers - Paid
9.
10.

[Combat-wombat]

Here's the story. We have this friend, who is a self-proclaimed communist. He beileves communism is a good system. Seriously. Anyway, he was visiting here when I told my dad I needed the 50% deposit soon, and he got involved in the issue. We all had a discussion, and he convinced my parents to rething not only the knife class, but even letting me carry the knife!:uhoh: He's gone, so I have to try to persuade my parents with facts and logic. Bear with me, I'm trying as fast as I can. So August 15 is the deadline? I'll try to work with that. PLEASE save a spot for me, I'm trying. Maybe set the limit to 11 or 12? Please?

[Bruz]

PLEASE save a spot for me

We'll give you every opportunity we can, it's good to see one so young understanding the importance of good training.


Anyway, he was visiting here when I told my dad I needed the 50% deposit soon, and he got involved in the issue.

Well, a least you learned one lesson...when to chose your fights! So, along those lines, do your parents have any friends that you think would side with you on this issue? Do your parents lean that far to the left or communism that they acually give credience to his advise?

Keep us posted and good luck.

[Bruz]

Had a couple e-mails requesting the date again...it's the second weekend in November, the 8th and 9th.

[Combat-wombat]

No, I don't think any of their friends would side with me. They are leftists, and so are their friends. However, I might be able to convince them. I don't really know if I can or can't, but I'll keep you posted.

[Speed]

I saw someone ask this question early in the thread but never saw a reply. Is this considered a 'basic' class, as in no previous traning required? I'm very interested in the class, but have had no official training to date.

-Speed->

[Bruz]

Is this considered a 'basic' class, as in no previous traning required?

The class is open to beginners and experienced alike, different skill levels will be matched up and the whole day is dedicated to paring back and forth based on the knowledge imparted by our expert. Training is based on everyone's need to protect themselves with knife and hand in today’s uncertain environment. This is not a lecture; this is hand to hand based on real life experience.

Yes, this class is for you...ya want in?

[brownie0486]

Hi Speed,

You need no former training in defensive knife to attend. In fact we will be taking the class through unarmed against a knife for a full day. The second day will continue with some basic knife to knife combatative skills and then finish with a review of the two days for a few hours late on that Sunday.

I would suggest bringing a leather gauntlet or an ace bandage with you for the wrist the knife is held in, as well as eye protection.

I'll have the training knives with me, no need to worry on what you will be using. The training will be concentrated on folders for defense and not include long knife techniques. I may show everyone a few quickly later on Sunday but we will be concentrating on small folders for defense when the knife to knife is happening.

I believe that one needs solid unarmed skills against a knife before we go to knife to knife defensive tactics. Everyone wants the knife to knife and they get plenty but the unarmed skills is most important.

Hope to see you there.

Brownie

[brownie0486]

BTTT:

Time is short to sign up and get into the scheduled class thats coming up in November.

HR forum member Bruz has stated a few people previously "good to go" have scheduling conflicts. We are down to 6 confirmed and we'll need 10 to make this happen.

I'll give this until Tuesday Aug 19 for others to sign up and get their deposit in to Bruz [ or at least commit to sending the funds ] or I'll cancel the class and Bruz will refund the players who have submitted their deposits.

You can respond here or to Bruz or I on a PM.

Thanks, stay safe out there.

Brownie

[Combat-wombat]

Sorry... I can't make it. Damn.

[Bruz]

Well, we almost put it together...we had enough paid people untill a couple had scheduling conflicts arise. I have a few "maybe's" still, but if I do not have enough paids by next week I'll be sending everyones deposits back.

Bummer, I was really looking forward to getting some training from Brownie...keep an eye open, we will try to put one together in the future.

[Psssniper]

Status check on the class????
Is it cancelled for sure??

thanks

[Bruz]

Is it cancelled for sure??

Yep, it is dead...allot of interest, we had 10 paid deposits but half cancelled within a week when they found out their plans for the holidays. Planning on resurrecting it in the future, will post next year.

I believe we have refunded all the deposits, never cashed the checks. If you paid and have not received your deposit yet please email me and we'll get it right over to you.