USA: "Anti Gun Spokesman Says Democrats' Advisors Should Be Shot"


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cuchulainn
May 31, 2003, 05:22 PM
Well, not really, but see the highlighted quote below. Imagine how much mud would be hitting the fan if a spokeman for the NRA or another pro-gun group had said it.

from the Washington Times

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20030531-122824-1062r.htmDemocrats shunning gun control

By James G. Lakely
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Democrats appear to have abandoned gun control as a political wedge, declining to push the issue in Congress despite being given the opportunity by congressional Republicans.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, upbraided President Bush earlier this month for not pushing fellow Republicans to bring the assault-weapons ban up for reauthorization before it expires in September 2004.
"The president has announced that he supports the assault ban, and it would be helpful if he used his good offices to do that," Mrs. Pelosi said at her last weekly press briefing before the Memorial Day recess. "I don't know whether he intends to or not."
House Republicans consider it a pretty safe bet that he won't, and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas has stated that the chances of a renewal of the ban coming to the House floor are slim.
Yet Democrats still have options — both rhetorically, by trying to make gun control a hot-button issue again, and legislatively, by filing for a discharge petition to get a vote on the floor.
Mrs. Pelosi, however, has declined to commit to either strategy and acknowledged that if the vote comes to the floor, many Democrats would not vote to renew the ban.
"We would probably lose some votes," Mrs. Pelosi said early this month. "It won't be something that we would be whipping."
Asked whether she would push for a discharge petition, which requires support from a majority of House members, to force an up-or-down vote on the assault-weapons ban, Mrs. Pelosi balked, saying that "our discharge focus is now on unemployment compensation."
After the press briefing, however, Mrs. Pelosi said the Democrats might revisit guns "when the issue is ripe."
Republicans see that as a dodge.
"There seems to be a disconnect between Leader Pelosi's desire for the administration to utilize its 'good offices,' while at the same time maintaining that they don't intend to whip the issue," a high-level House Republican staffer said.
"If you want something done in this town, you have to be willing to lift a finger at the very least. But on this issue and so many others, it's apparent that the Democrats aren't interested in results, just rhetoric," the staffer said.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, California Democrat, has introduced a bill to reauthorize the ban on 19 types of "assault weapons," which first passed in 1994. It has garnered eight co-sponsors after several weeks of courting.
Meanwhile, a bill protecting firearms manufacturers and gun-store owners from liability if their guns are used to commit crimes passed in the House on April 9 by a vote of 285-140, with the support of 63 Democrats.
The Senate version of the bill has 52 co-sponsors and is expected to pass during the summer.
Andrew Arulanandam, director of public affairs for the National Rifle Association, sees these as signs that the political tide turned long ago against those who support further regulating firearms.
He pointed to the defeat in the 2000 presidential election of Al Gore in such Democratic-leaning yet pro-gun states as West Virginia, Arkansas and his home state of Tennessee.
And in the 2002 midterm elections, 230 of 246 House candidates endorsed by the NRA emerged victorious.
"If you look at the results of the last two elections, you see a trend that candidates who are supporters of gun rights for law-abiding citizens tend to prevail," Mr. Arulanandam said.
Gun-control groups, however, suggest that the issue may be dormant now, but is apt to become an electoral factor by 2004.
"No one is particularly focused on this," said Matt Bennett, spokesman for Americans for Gun Safety. "There is no hook for this issue quite yet. But when the public realizes that unless Congress acts , that 'street sweepers' and Tec-9s will hit the streets again, it will become hot again."
Democrats abandon the gun issue at their peril, said Blaine Rummel, spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.
He disputed the NRA's political success stories, noting that Mr. Gore won Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin — states where advocates on both sides of the gun issue spent heavily on political advertising.
"There isn't a shred of evidence that says gun control is a political loser," Mr. Rummel said. "It hasn't cost a candidate a political race anywhere."
Mr. Rummel also pointed to the failed campaign of Senate candidate Jean Carnahan, Missouri Democrat, who tried to woo gun owners by wearing hunting camouflage in her political advertising.
[B] "The Democrats ran away from gun safety in the 2002 elections, and look where it got them," Mr. Rummel said. "Whoever is advising them on gun control should be shot."
Democrats "foolishly believe the NRA is going to go easy on them" if they register a vote for the liability protection or keep quiet about the assault-weapons ban, Mr. Rummel said.
"This issue is never going to go away," he said.

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MicroBalrog
May 31, 2003, 06:08 PM
C'mon, say it in your next interview, baby. Expose yourself as the fascist b:cuss: you really are.:D

benEzra
May 31, 2003, 06:26 PM
Mr. Rummel also pointed to the failed campaign of Senate candidate Jean Carnahan, Missouri Democrat, who tried to woo gun owners by wearing hunting camouflage in her political advertising.
What this actually shows is that most of us politically active gun owners consider a candidate's stand on hunting to be immeasurably less important than their stand on GUN RIGHTS and SELF-DEFENSE. Carnahan was on record as opposing CCW and the private ownership of so-called assault weapons, and she paid for it by her defeat at the polls. Why the Democrats think that I give a flying flip about hunting, compared to my fundamental right to defend myself and my family with the gun of MY choice, is absolutely beyond me.

Mark Tyson
June 1, 2003, 09:39 AM
Look at this "gun safety" phrase being used in place of gun control. Makes me sick. The "gun lobby" does more to promote gun safety than all these do- gooders ever did. What nonsense.

rick_reno
June 1, 2003, 10:39 AM
I think Mr. Rummel might have stumbled onto something here. While shooting the advisors might not be the final solution, it's a start.:p ;)

Seriously, what is a spokesperson for the anti-gun crowd doing suggesting gun violence? I think some anger management therapy should be in order for Mr. Rummel.

El Tejon
June 1, 2003, 10:48 AM
Further evidence that those that support "gun control" are the violent ones.

Rummel, how is your desire to shoot people promoting "gun safety"? Oh, wait, you don't care about safety, only control. Well, shooting people is a good way to control them as your heros in Nazi Germany and the USSR knew.

The mask has dropped. The bitter little fascists have been exposed! The *&^%$* duck hunters at the NRA had better use this.

longeyes
June 1, 2003, 04:38 PM
Why the Democrats think that I give a flying flip about hunting, compared to my fundamental right to defend myself and my family with the gun of MY choice, is absolutely beyond me.

Probably because they're hoping you'll end up happy to be able to keep a single-shot .410 and surrender what you have now.

I agree that gun owners need to prioritize the right and capability of self-defense. Ducks and paper targets mean us no harm.

Boats
June 1, 2003, 05:51 PM
"No one is particularly focused on this," said Matt Bennett, spokesman for Americans for Gun Safety. "There is no hook for this issue quite yet. But when the public realizes that unless Congress acts [by September 2004], that 'street sweepers' and Tec-9s will hit the streets again, it will become hot again."

Translation: There hasn't been another high profile shooting incident to exploit recently.

Monte Harrison
June 2, 2003, 10:21 AM
Look at this "gun safety" phrase being used in place of gun control. Makes me sick. The "gun lobby" does more to promote gun safety than all these do- gooders ever did. What nonsense.This is absolutely true, but I look at it this way: the fact that the Idiot Left is having to "spin" gun control as "gun safety" is clear evidence that the issue is a political loser.

Bartholomew Roberts
June 2, 2003, 11:27 AM
Look at the good news in that article though... at the same time Nancy Pelosi is crying that Bush isn't doing enough to extend the ban, she is also not doing a single thing to bring the ban to a floor vote in the House.

That sounds like a good sign to me - either she knows that the votes aren't there for a discharge position (likely) or she is saving the effort for closer to election day in order to make a media issue. Without a discharge petition, the only way for that bill to see a vote on the House floor is if various committee chairmen and Tom Delay decide to schedule it - and I don't see that happening.

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