[Afy]

Great wise shooters... I need a little more education...

what is the maximum range you can accurately (relatively) to with a 1858 using about 25grs of BP? 25 Yards? 50 Yards?

Can you educate me on the differences between the three Dragoon generations?

[pohill]

At 50 yards with my Uberti Remington I could hit orange clay birds maybe 2-3 of 6 shots. Beyond that...well, I never tried it.
The Dragoon 1st models had squareback triggerguards and oval slots in the cylinders. The 2nd models had the same triggerguard but rectangular slots.
3rd models had round triggerguards and rectangluar slots. Then you get into the generations of Colts (when they were made). I'm pretty sure the 2nd and 3rd were the modern versions.

[Desert Scorpion]

My 1858 is accurate at 50 yards. However my Uberti 1851 is accurate at 75+ this is mainly because the navy's sights make it shoot high. The gun is hard to shoot at close range though. If you want more punch get a bullet with more grains. This makes the gun have good recoil:evil: but accuracy is degraded with heavy bullets. Cabelas.com sells buffalo bullets (cone style). pre lubed too! any more questions:cool: .

[Desert Scorpion]

Hey! isnt there a forth dragoon too called the whitnyvill. May have spelt it wrong, and no it wasnt the walker. It was after the walker so it would be like this (1) Walker (2) Whitnyvill (3) 1st model drag (4) 2nd model drag (5) 3rd model drag

[SixShootinSam]

The whitneyville was the transitional model between the Walker and the Dragoon.

[pohill]

Apparently there was another Dragoon model between the 1st Model and the 2nd, called the Fluck Model. It was the 1st Model with some Walker parts.

[Desert Scorpion]

Did more research and your all right there were a few oddballs in-between, some were original walkers converted to meet new standards and weight buy cutting the barrel. Usually the loading lever was messed with too. There is however a actual whytnyvill being sold on a sight I came across months back they sold all 3 dragoons and the walker and they also sold on that same page a (whytnyvill) It looked 95% similar to the Walker. I will look for the site and post.

[mukluk]

Click Here (http://arms2armor.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ssuberti.html)

[sjohns]

pohill
I remember reading somewhere that there never really was a fluck model.
(there is no evidence that it ever really existed)

[pohill]

Yeah, I read that, too. Apparently it was named after the guy who discovered one or found one or something. R.L. Wilson describes it briefly in his Colt book. I saw one (an original?) on an auction not too long ago. It was probably a kitchen-table put-together model from different guns. Or someone had a Walker and couldn't get the wedge out and yelled, "Ah Fluck..."

[Desert Scorpion]

That was the web site!!! :)

[Afy]

Ok follow up question... Lets assume only Pietta's are available...

Which one would be the most fun and reliable to shoot. Also the max amount of powder?

[Plink]

50 yards is about the farthest I can shoot accurately with any black powder handgun. The guns are capable of good accuracy, but I'm the limiting factor. The 1858 is my favorite model of revolver so far, though I got to try out a Rogers & Spencer a while back and it fit my hand like it was made for me and pointed very naturally. I think I'm in the market again. My real preference is the single shot muzzleloaders though.

[SixShootinSam]

Coming back on that "fluck" Dragoon, I saw one on Gunbroker today:
Of course, who knows how authentic it really is...
http://www.gunsonthenet.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=64778765

[pohill]

I think that's the one that I saw a few months ago. Wish I had that kind of change for a non-shooter.