Sporterized Mosin Nagant


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crowsnest2002
January 23, 2007, 03:48 PM
I'm sure everyone out there might have one of these sitting in the closet.. I was just thinking about sporterizing another one just for fun on my own and I was wondering if you guys had any imput on it. Such as showing some pictures of your project or any good websites for ideas as well. Any info will be greatly and much appreciated..

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Cosmoline
January 23, 2007, 03:55 PM
What kind of Mosin is it? What's it's current status? What is your intended use for it? These are all factors to be considered.

wnycollector
January 23, 2007, 05:16 PM
I suggest you check out www.surplusrifle.com and its forum for pics and tips of sporterizing m/n's!

R.W.Dale
January 23, 2007, 06:14 PM
Honestly I bought this rifle as you see it, it appears to have been sporterized in the 60's. But it may give you some ideas.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/krochus/HPIM0877.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/krochus/HPIM0878.jpg

100 yds 180grn S&B iron sights.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/krochus/Moisintarget3.jpg

crowsnest2002
January 23, 2007, 06:52 PM
Mainly its going to be used for deer or large game at 200yrds max and maybe carry it for a groundhog gun if I got bored with my 22-250. I want to use a 91\30. I'm not really into mounting the EER Scopes so I might have to go with a side mount scope or maybe the scope mount rail from Advanced Tech. I was just wanting to see some ideas and what people had. By the way that rifle looks pretty smooth for an old trench gun lol and it shoots pretty well too... The custom bolt looks very well done, how are the welds on the bolt body that join the bolt to it?? The bolt is so interesting I like it lol...

Cosmoline
January 23, 2007, 07:01 PM
You can pick up a PU style sniper rifle for pretty cheap right now, or mount a PU on an ex-sniper. There are kits for more traditional receiver scope mounts, but they suck and the Mosin will never ever work well with one. It's like putting teats on a bull.

Mainly its going to be used for deer or large game at 200yrds max and maybe carry it for a groundhog gun if I got bored with my 22-250.

The 7.62x54R is in the .30'06 class and is not any way, shape or form similar to the 22-250. I don't know if you're going to end up with accuracy sufficient for nailing varmints.

You are better off buying a regular Savage or Ruger or Remchester if you don't like irons and don't like EER scopes.

crowsnest2002
January 23, 2007, 07:08 PM
I could clarify then, A tractor gun lol...... A weapon I'm not too worried about dinging up.. My rem 700vls i would be terrified to tote on a tractor while raking hay...

Cosmoline
January 23, 2007, 07:11 PM
You could get one of the many Mosins already cut, drilled and tapped. These show up in stores, pawnshops and the auction sites all the time. Most can be had for under a C note.

But for the kind of work you describe, why not a used Ruger M-77 in stainless?

crowsnest2002
January 23, 2007, 07:19 PM
I was just looking for something to get into so to speak... Something I can say I did this and maybe it wont be a looker, just pass it down to my kid someday to be a first deer rifle..

Clipper
January 23, 2007, 07:31 PM
Crowsnest,
My 91/30 sets in an ATI fiberglass stock, and will be my foul weather deer rifle, for when I'd rather leave my new Win. M-70 featherweight at home. I still have to cut the barrel to 22" to get a manageable length and remove the worn rifling at the muzzle, weld a turned down bolt handle on and decide what kind of sighting system I want to use. My first Mosin had Williams guide sights, and this one will likely get a set of peeps, and get drilled for a short Weaver rail on the receiver ring, so I can mount a reflex sight later when or if my eyes get whacked enough to make it impossible to use irons.

I have about $130.00 in the rifle & stock, and actually, if I didn't mind the loooooooooong barrel getting in the way in close cover, it would be OK as is, not to mention a lot cheaper than that mythical used Savage the rabid milsurp snobs say I should buy instead. However, I like short barrels, and I especially enjoy getting Cosmo all fired up by talking about making permanent alterations... ;)

grimjaw
January 23, 2007, 08:01 PM
I recently saw a Mosin Nagant that somebody did some 'sporterizing' on.

- Cut down the barrel a few inches
- Added a new front sight
- Cut down the stock to remove most of the upper and lower handguards
- Refinished the wood in a grilled chicken sandwich pattern (best description I can think of that it resembled)
- He also might have moly-coated the metal

For all I know, it was rusting and counterbored before, and the wood was peeling. It might have been excellent condition and he just figured it would suit him better as a shooter that way. He probably had $100-150 in work in it.

It's up on Gunbroker right now, in fact. It was made by Remington in 1917, and similar unhacked guns have sold for over $1000 in the last year. He might get $100 out of it.

Before you go hacking up something that might hold substantial monetary value, you might want to check and see what you have before writing it off as old Russian trash. There are plenty of Mosin Nagants that are might need some work to get in better shooting condition. But if I stood to make double or triple my money back on one of them, you can bet I'd check it out before I whipped out the hacksaw.

jm

crowsnest2002
January 23, 2007, 08:41 PM
Got a pic clipper?

R.W.Dale
January 23, 2007, 09:03 PM
The custom bolt looks very well done, how are the welds on the bolt body that join the bolt to it?? The bolt is so interesting I like it lol...

Whoever built this rifle had thier game on. The welding on the bolt handle is seamless it actually looks af it came that way from the USSR. The action and barrel are full length bedded, the sights are Lyman and the stock is a Fajen. And a high polisg bluing

A little reasearch yeilded that the rifle is an ex-Spanish Civil war rifle. In spite of a truly rotten and pitted barrel it still shoots great. I bought it from a local pawnshop for $175:evil:

Vaarok
January 23, 2007, 09:50 PM
I concur on researching what you've got before you start breaking out the power tools. Too many rares have gotten hacked up to make me even remotely comfortable with the idea of modding an old army gun.

For that matter, why not just buy a post-war european M-44 and slap some Mojo sights on it?

Cosmoline
January 23, 2007, 10:13 PM
Clipper, I've never seen anyone so eager to slice his nose off to spite his face. Trust me you'll sink a lot more than $130 trying to make a Mosin into a Remchester.

that mythical used Savage the rabid milsurp snobs say I should buy instead

I think we've confirmed that "myth":

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=64352915

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=64510269

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=64531689

Some of the MANY Savage 111 rifle & scope packages:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/classifieds/none/_976485446.aspx

http://www.gunsamerica.com/classifieds/none/_976488645.aspx

http://www.gunsamerica.com/classifieds/none/_976824499.aspx

R.W.Dale
January 23, 2007, 10:43 PM
At least the $130 91/30 with the badly worn muzzle and pitted bore stands a reasonably good chance of shooting well. Too bad the same doesn't apply those over priced cast tomato stakes called Rugers.This from an ex ruger fanhttp://www.pushupstairs.com/images/emoticon/neptune/Animated/Fight/fight009.gif

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