Can you kill a groundhog with a Pellet?


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r2t2
January 24, 2007, 12:22 AM
Groundhog Problem: Too many and I am in an area with other dwellings on a lake. I don't want to disturb neighbors or be unsafe so I am wondering it a quiet pellet gun would be lethal. If so, what do you recomend?

Rt

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Majic
January 24, 2007, 12:33 AM
It won't be a humane kill if it even kills it. Groundhogs can get to be a good sized little critter with a thick layer of fat.

SVT93
January 24, 2007, 12:36 AM
I used a .177 which worked ok on a small one at very close range. I'd go looking for a .22 airgun though. If you can get good shot placement they work fine. quick search found this- http://www.americanairgunhunter.com/groundhog.html

wooderson
January 24, 2007, 01:18 AM
You might also consider a .22lr pistol loaded with Aguila's Colibri rounds. Quiet, more humane - safety comes down to how and where you're shooting.

kart racer
January 24, 2007, 01:26 AM
Get a 17 hmr or mach 2.The mach 2 should take care of it at shorter ranges and not bad in the noise area.

razorburn
January 24, 2007, 01:29 AM
Don't do it with any pellet gun you can get from walmart/local sports store. Get over 30-35 fpe. Which means no .177. A .22 14gr bullet going a true 1000 fps should do it with a good shot from a fairly close range. If firearms are an option at all, I'd choose that every time.

rangerruck
January 24, 2007, 02:59 AM
if you get a 22 cal or bigger, using co2 or pnp charged, that is going at least 1000 fps at the muzzle, that will do it. Problem is , they are very expensive.
cheaper way is to get a single shot, and use Aguila colibri or super colibri, or cci cb shorts or longs.

expvideo
January 24, 2007, 03:00 AM
I bagged one with a 9mm, but I guess that's a little louder than you need :D

joneb
January 24, 2007, 03:06 AM
David killed Goliath with a sling so all things are possible. A bolt action .22lr will work with .22CB's get the longs if you have a repeater. CB's are as quiet as a air rifle if not more so, and the 29grn bullet at 700ish FPS will muster around 32 FT/LBS of E and with a head shot will work fine. I would practice first and limit your shots to 15-20 yds.

Rabid Rabbit
January 24, 2007, 09:30 AM
Having shot groundhogs with 22LR and up I agree with jibjab. Another alternative is to call a pest control company that has one of these http://www.rodexindustries.com/action.html devices.

ZeSpectre
January 24, 2007, 09:52 AM
We had a neighboring farmer who used to get up close and take 'em out with an airgun but it was something really high end (I can't remember what) not your typical Daisy .177.

In my younger days I killed a groundhog with a slingshot (though I still consider it to have been a lucky shot).

Now that I'm older (and wiser?) I don't think I'd try for a humane kill with less than a .22LR

PinnedAndRecessed
January 24, 2007, 09:55 AM
Certainly you can. Sneak up behind the groundhog. Lay the pellet on its head. Then pound the pellet with a 12 pound sledge hammer.

SamTuckerMTNMAN
January 24, 2007, 09:55 AM
put a .22 lr in a .22 mag chamber and POP, its done, and pretty quiet. Put in a .22 short even better. BUT, the 1000+ fps air rifles out there today, especially in .22 are pretty dern cool. Consider trapping options....that works a lot more around here and lets me spend time shooting rats.
:evil:

ST

LAR-15
January 24, 2007, 09:57 AM
Use a compound bow with a good broadhead.

Groundhogs are generally tough animals

22-rimfire
January 24, 2007, 10:16 AM
I used to shoot them with a 22LR a fair amount. If I were to attempt killing a groundhog with a pellet gun, I'd use a 22 cal and be good enough to him the critter in the eye. It should penetrate sufficiently to reach the brain and humanely dispatch the chuck. It boils down to being a good shot and only taking shots that you can make. I doubt a body shot will kill one or if it does, it will be a slow lingering death (disease or infection mostly) for the groundhog which I can not suggest.

With a regular 22LR, body shots will not kill them immediately. They will die in their dens. Again, I did eye and ear shots mostly with 22LR and that takes them down promptly.

Dorryn
January 24, 2007, 10:25 AM
I killed a groundhog with a rake once. Those little bastards are surprisingly fast and strong. And angry. Though that could be because I had hit it with a rake.

doubleg
January 24, 2007, 10:28 AM
:D This thread is hilarius.

deadin
January 24, 2007, 10:34 AM
You could probably beat one to death with the pellet gun.:evil:
I would recommend a pellet rifle over a pistol. (You don't have to get quite as close)

The Rifleman
January 24, 2007, 10:46 AM
Why not just put out some traps? Figure out where they are comming from and where they are going to and set a dozen or so traps. Figure out what they like to eat and place it around or above the trap.

Beat them over the head with a baseball bat and throw them in the garbage.

B.D. Turner
January 24, 2007, 10:48 AM
If you can get in pellet gun range why not use a bow? Field tips would be fine and great pratice too.

MikeK
January 24, 2007, 10:50 AM
A guy that lives in the area uses .22 shorts from a rifle. He says it's quiet and kills them quickly if he does his part.

doubleg
January 24, 2007, 11:10 AM
Definatley^ I spent many a night plinking in my back yard with Longs out of a 22 bolt rifle. Just slightly louder than a paintball gun.

foob
January 24, 2007, 11:18 AM
Do they taste good?

PaladinX13
January 24, 2007, 01:41 PM
Groundhog Problem: Too many and I am in an area with other dwellings on a lake. I don't want to disturb neighbors or be unsafe so I am wondering it a quiet pellet gun would be lethal. If so, what do you recommend?
Having taken the lawn/landscaping destroyers with a Benjamin/Sheridan 392 (.22cal pump rifle)... you absolutely can do it humanely, but make sure you're proficient with the weapon first... that is, able to put the pellet behind the groundhog's ear with relative ease.

Noise-wise... it depends on how skittish and how close they live (what kind of setting are you in?)... but a many air-rifles aren't significantly more quiet than a .22LR using CB Caps.

Picknlittle
January 24, 2007, 04:29 PM
Do they taste good?

Not bad BBQ'd,...maybe a greasy and stringy for some.

ArmedBear
January 24, 2007, 04:58 PM
Hell, people I know with groundhog problems in Ohio (we don't have them here) thought it was cruel to shoot 'em with a .22LR at point blank range. Not a clean kill, at all.

They now use a 12 Gauge with buckshot. Tough little critters.:D

razorburn
January 24, 2007, 08:59 PM
If you can get in pellet gun range why not use a bow? Field tips would be fine and great pratice too.

Field tips are NOT fine! I've shot squirrels with field tips, and it didn't kill them. I only tried it once, and won't ever again. I hit it at about 20 yards as it sat upright on a 4x4. Aimed for the chest, but hit about an inch low, smack in the middle of the body. The thing ran around for a half hour while I scurried around trying to find a gun to finish it off. Climbing about 10 feet up a tree, then it'd fall down again as the arrow it was impaled on scraped against the tree. From then onwards, I used blunts while they were treed. As their bodies were pressed against the tree, a blunt in the upper-mid body would crush them and they'd flop to the ground, dead, with just a drop of blood on the tip of it's snout. Blunts didn't work when they weren't against a tree though, when they were free standing, it seemed to just knock them down and stun them temporarily, and they'd get up again. I'd use only broadheads for a groundhog.

PinnedAndRecessed
January 25, 2007, 12:40 AM
When I was living in western Ky (college), a neighbor came over and said he found a dying ground hog in his yard and wanted to know if I had a gun so he could put it out of it's misery.

He said he already tried to beat it to death with a board but it was still alive. Then he tried stabbing it with a pitchfork. Still alive. Then he put it in a metal trashcan and doused it with gasoline and set it on fire. Still alive.

I think the neighbor was nuts, or something.

savetheclaypigeons
January 25, 2007, 01:02 AM
I was under the impression you couldn't kill them with even a chainsaw!

ArmedBear
January 25, 2007, 01:08 AM
Thought about a crossbow?

A good one costs as much as a good centerfire rifle, but this could be the excuse you're looking for to buy it.

I mean, who doesn't want a crossbow? But who can really justify $600+ for one if he doesn't have a reason to buy it?

Well, here's your reason.:D I'm thinking 400 fps, pinpoint accuracy, and a broadhead should take care of even a groundhog.

JohnKSa
January 25, 2007, 02:22 AM
Conventional pellet guns poke very small holes. They lack even the small amount of "shock" value that might be provided by rimfires.

Airgun hunting (or using an airgun for pest elimination) is therefore somewhat different from hunting with a rimfire or firearm. It is about extreme precision and usually very careful brain shots.

You can kill a groundhog with a pellet gun, but not from 100 yards away, and not even up close with a COM shot. Just because conventional airguns don't offer firearm performance doesn't make them useless. If that were true, bowhunting would be extinct. ;)

If you want to get into the pre-charged pneumatics, that's a different story. You can get muzzle-loading performance from them. But you lose all the normal benefits of airguns--they become noisy, are dangerous at extended ranges, can have significant recoil, etc.

1911 guy
January 25, 2007, 06:15 AM
I got a groundhog trapped in our barn. There was a cinder block handy, so I raised it (the block, not the whistle pig) high above my head and hurled it down upon the poor little groundhogs head.



The thing chased me out of the barn. I grabbed a .22 and shot it later the same day.

BIGR
January 25, 2007, 06:58 AM
About the smallest gun I ever used on a groundhog was a Walther TPH .22 CAL. loaded with CCI Stingers. I was standing on one side of a stream and MR. Groundhog stuck his head out of a hole and I shot him through the neck...and that is a true story.

BigRedBowtie
January 25, 2007, 06:22 PM
I've taken 2 woodchucks on my parents land. One with a .22lr at about 35 yards, and another with a .45 at about 15 yards. The .22 shot left a pretty good blood trail, but the 'chuck managed to scurry up under the foundation of the barn before he expired... he made a pretty healthy stank for a couple weeks.

The one I shot with my 1911 was a body shot. He dropped on the spot, but managed to twitch for a minute or so. Tough little critters.

..."whistle pigs"... that's good- I'll have to remember that.

Buck-eye
January 25, 2007, 09:29 PM
Hell, people I know with groundhog problems in Ohio (we don't have them here) thought it was cruel to shoot 'em with a .22LR at point blank range. Not a clean kill, at all.

They now use a 12 Gauge with buckshot. Tough little critters.Not this Ohioan. I have knocked down plenty of them with my .22. I even did one in with an axe handle to the head...he was a big/fat one but he only took one hard hit.

wga
January 25, 2007, 10:36 PM
Long time ago I shot an Oregon rockchuck in the head with a daisy .177 pumped to the hilt from about 15 feet that was tearing up my back yard. Like everyone has said, it did not produce a humane kill. Gave him enough of a headache that he ran behind my woodpile instead of diving in his hole. I was able to climb the woodpile and put the gun to his head which closed the deal. Sometimes you gotta do the best you can do with the tools available, and it was a lot quicker than poison.

JohnKSa
January 25, 2007, 11:20 PM
Long time ago I shot an Oregon rockchuck in the head with a daisy .177 pumped to the hilt from about 15 feet that was tearing up my back yard. Like everyone has said, it did not produce a humane kill.Yup, "head shot" does not always equal "brain shot".

mierda
January 26, 2007, 12:03 AM
while i lived in miami ground hogs kept stealing my hubcaps. One night i took a shot at one with my marlin model 60. Can you believe he shot back at me with a hi-point.:neener:

rich636
January 26, 2007, 12:11 AM
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C4...it's the only way

Edit: It was a Cinderella story...

razorburn
January 26, 2007, 12:52 AM
Well, bows cut rather than crush, so it takes a lot less energy to push that 2" wide broadhead through something and leave a 2" diameter hole. A crushing thing like a pellet gun coupled with even lower energy than a bow, isn't going to be nearly as effective.

mustang_gt_350
January 26, 2007, 06:45 AM
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http://www.grizzlygary.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2699

koja48
January 26, 2007, 09:23 AM
Depends on what the groundhog is doing with the pellet . . . if he's loading it in an airgun, duck . . . they could put an eye out with one of those. Pellets are best used for humane kills on small, thin-skinned pests such as starlings or rats. Use a .17 rimfire if such can be done safely, otherwise trap the varmints.

kbheiner7
January 27, 2007, 12:25 PM
You can certainly kill groundhogs with a pellet gun, but not all pellet guns are created equal.

The better choice would be a subsonic .22. They work great for trespassing cats too. ;)

WolfMansDad
January 30, 2007, 07:54 PM
If you do try it, whistle first. That will make the groundhog stand up and give you a better shot. If you can spine them (up high, near the brain stem), that is usually the most effective. Head shots can lead to a lot of noise and thrashing. Shoot them in the heart or lungs, and they will run to ground and die in their burrow.

I have tried a variety of .22 rounds on groundhogs, and most did not produce clean kills, even with good shot placement. Only with CCI stingers were they consistently dead-right-there. Even ordinary hollow points were iffy. I would be leery of using a pellet gun.

Jdoc
January 30, 2007, 09:52 PM
Most people think air-guns are toys. Let me tell you some of the decent high-power adult air-guns on the market are far from toys. In some states it is even legal to hunt deer with an air-gun. Some custom air-guns shoot .50 cal lead round balls :what: . I myself have never actually shot one like that but i do use air-guns to small game hunt near homes or hiking trails on state land where one might run into other people a guy with a pellet gun looks a lot less threatening
than a guy with a rifle or shotgun.

http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/

Here is a website to check out. some people take air-gun hunting really seriously . I guess its all about personal preference.

You may also want to take a look airforce air-guns the make high powered pcps precharged penumatic air-guns in .22 cal very much capable of the task.

http://www.airforceairguns.com/

Troutman
January 31, 2007, 01:42 AM
I never tried it. But it can be done, if done right.
Some time ago, in another lifetime, I used a 30/30 Winchester for chucks.

I posted about this. Some time ago.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2654545#post2654545

T.R.
February 1, 2007, 07:03 PM
Groundhogs can be trapped easily. Simply bait your trap with lettuce and carrots but wire it so the door does not drop. Get 'em used to the trap. Pretty soon they'll be in there regularily. Take your wire out and suprise.

All you need next is a pair of welding gloves and a ball peen hammer. Lights out.

Young ones are real good roasted. The old ones can be tossed into a meadow or field. Hey, crows gotta eat, too!
TR

EricTheBarbarian
February 2, 2007, 12:51 AM
+1 , old groundhogs can get really tough, the young ones are the good eatin. But anything in a slow cooker will tender up after about 12 hours. I have doubts about your average airgun from wal mart ever killing one. I have a hard enough time killing squirrels with those. A .22 lr will work fine for those. However, i did kill a small one in my barn with a shovel one time that the dog cornered. if you just toss them in a field, maybe try for coyote bait?

Sniper X
February 2, 2007, 04:27 PM
Buy a Marlin model 60 from Walmart for 100 bucks and buy a brick on Colibri .60gr subsonic rounds because they are quieter than a 1000fps pellet gun and way more powerful, even powerful enoug to kill Coyotes at close range. I even dispatch rabbits with the .30gr SSS Colibris, but the .60gr might even cycle the action and is more powerful yet than the .30gr.

edskull69
June 14, 2008, 07:23 AM
I took one out with one shot with a.177 pointed lead pellet from 30 yards with a crosman 2100 air rifle bought @ Dicks for $69.00. It came with a cheesy scope but it dropped that Groundhog from 30 yards first shot. (10 pumps)She was around a 12 lb. groundhog. I never saw one up close....those things have some big ass teeth!!!!!!! It poked its head around the corner of the shed and pop!! new sheriff in town!!:uhoh::evil:

koja48
June 14, 2008, 08:17 AM
Now that I have entered the world of pre-charged pneumatic airguns, I have changed my mind . . . heavy .22-caliber pellets out of these accurate pieces are quite effective. This one is very quiet & has done a fine job of keeping a burgeoning colony of marmots near a friend's alfalfa field in check.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w305/koja48/P1000411.jpg

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