[1911Tuner]

Since the talk often turns to the best lube for the job...I may have been selected to test the answer to that question in the form of a small batch of an as yet unmarketed lubricant that arrived in a freebie package from Dave Berryhill of Berryhill Custom Guns.

Now...everybody kinda knows that I'm not much for new gadgets...and that applies to the miraculous new Wunderlubes that have been makin' their debut of late. Me? If it's oil, it's oil. Slap it on. :D

Oh...I tried a few of the new goops that promised to slick'em up to the point of defying the laws of physics, and while they all lubricated...I felt that they were pretty much another gimmick that the marketeers would use to convince us that we always needed it...but just didn't know it yet.

Along with a beautifully finished wide-spur hammer and sear for me to put through the wringer to see what they'll stand...there was a small, capped tub of a strange-lookin' and stranger-feelin' reddish/purplish goop with a hand-written name on the top of the cap..."Gun-Goo." (Cute)

Day before yesterday, with "Okay, Dave...Impress me" still fresh on my lips, I went out to the little shop of horrors that I laughingly refer to as my workshop...thoroughly degreased two of my more tightly-fitted beaters...and applied a little "Gun-Goo" to the rails and a light smear to the disconnector rail and barrel OD, up at the muzzle.

The first thing that I noticed was that the gun immediately felt smoother. No surprise there. It's grease. That's what it's supposed to do. Then I tried to wipe it off of my fingers...and no matter how hard I wiped, my fingers stayed slick. They were still slick at bedtime last night, in spite of the fact that I use Dawn dishwashing liquid for most of my hand-washing chores.

Yesterday, I took the pistols to the range for a 500-round workout. The guns were noticeably smoother when functioning, and at roughly the halfway point in the session...they felt like they started to ride on ball-bearings.

When I got home to wipe and clean...the stuff was still on the rails, and the steel felt like it had been coated with a thin film of teflon. I sprayed my usual carb cleaner spritz...wiped and brushed to remove the carbon gunk that cast bullet shooters know and love...and the stuff was STILL there, and still made the steel feel like a goose-greased doorknob, even though I couldn't visually detect any remaining lube. Since I used only a tiny amount, as per Dave's instructions...a 2-ounce tub of the stuff will last me well into the next decade.

Okay, Dave. So far, I'm impressed...and that ain't a small feat. The next phase will tell the tale. I intend to run the guns dry for the next range session...probably the middle of next week...and we'll just see how it holds up, buddy. :D

FWIW, my pistols will run well when they're dry, and though I always put a few drops on'em after the cleanup following each session, I don't normally re-oil on range day...which can be up to a week later. By the time the usual extended sessions are done, the oil has pretty much turned into a thick, carbon-based slurry...what little of it there is left...and even though the guns don't stop, they do start to feel a little sluggish by the time I get'em home. This time was different. If anything, they felt smoother during hand-cycling than they did when the "Gun-Goo" was fresh.

I'll report back on the performance during the upcoming "Run'em Dry" session, along with a later report on the hammer and sear.

[Larry Ashcraft]

Sounds like interesting stuff, Tuner. Let us know when it's on the market.

[.45FMJoe]

I feel like such a complacent, sheepish toolbox for saying this, but...


If Tuner says it is good stuff, sign me up. :o




:uhoh: :uhoh:

[1911Tuner]

Well...At this point, it's still in the testing phase, and not ready to market just yet. I agreed to be a test mule for the lube and for the hammer and sear set to provide feedback for dave, so he can determine if it's worth messin' with.

So far, I like what I...feel...but the endurance test will prove the puddin'...and I fully intend to put the lube, and the fire control parts to the test...and I promise not to be gentle.

At this point...if the cast hammer survives my wrath for 10,000 rounds, I'll give it a passin' grade. :p

[.45FMJoe]

Awesome, well keep us posted on the lube please!

Sounds pretty nice and promising.:)

[1911Tuner]

Yesterday...

Wiped off all visible Gun-Goo with a dry paper towel and fired 252 rounds per gun. No problems. When I got back and stripped'em, the stuff STILL felt slippery in the rails.

Methinks we're onto somethin' here...:scrutiny:

[Walkalong]

My favorites are M-Pro7, Slide Glide, and Gun Butter in no particular order, still sorting that out. I put Slide Glide on the sear/hammer, barrel lugs & top of mainspring pin regardless of lube elsewhere.). How do these compare to this new stuff and have you used those at all?

[1911Tuner]

Have used Slide Glide and Gun Butter. The gun seems to feel sluggish with Slide Glide in cold weather. The Gun Butter is smooth, but for pure stickin' to the rails, it can't touch this stuff. Haven't tried it on the sear and hammer hooks yet.

[1911 guy]

I prefer to use grease on my handguns as it doesn't "creep" like oil and stain my clothes while CCWing. This stuff sounds like a bell-ringer. Please let us know when and under what label it will be sold, when you find out.

[Walkalong]

The gun seems to feel sluggish with Slide Glide in cold weather

Yes it does. I have not tried "Slide Glide Light". It may be just right. Let us know how the new stuff works out. Sounds good so far.

[f4t9r]

Can not wait to try some.

[HSMITH]

Walkalong, it depends on how tight the gun is and how cold it gets before slide-glide light gets sluggish. I have one VERY tight Limited gun, it won't run below about 50* with it, failures are ALWAYS first shot failures and if I remember to cycle the slide a few times before loading it will run down into the 30's. Reliability is more important to me, so below about 50* I run oil, either FP10 (because it smells good) or Mobil 1 5w-30 (because it is cheap). Both work really well.

Tuner, ice those guns down next time you put a fresh batch on them. See what it does when the gun is 35-45*. Then shoot the dog piddle out of them, get a slide too hot to touch by a good bit. I am curious to see what it does in the cold and also what it does when it gets really hot. If it stays put and runs good in both conditions put me down for a couple tubs. Shoot, even if it doesn't run cold but stays right where I put it with a 250* gun I am going to be all over this stuff!!!

[mpthole]

Interesting. I'm still running good ol' LSA. :uhoh: I've got some FP10, militec(?) and of course CLP. Just stuck with the LSA though... can't stand the smell of CLP and haven't tested out the FP10 or militec yet.

[txgho1911]

Anyone shared with you how to take it all off?
I ask that for refinishing purposes. Something so slick that does not rub off could cause some aggravation for someone trying to refinish or change the finish on a weapon.

[1911Tuner]

HSMITH wrote:

>Tuner, ice those guns down next time you put a fresh batch on them. See what it does when the gun is 35-45*.<
*************

Did that. I store my pistols in an unheated shop. It got down to about
25 degrees the night before the frist test...and I always shoot my pistols hot.
Three magazines, and only go dry to slidelock on the last one.

mpthole...LSA is my go-to lube for all reasons and all seasons. Good stuff.;)

txgho1911...That's my next test, right after I shoot the pistols again without re-applying the lube. Was plannin' for Thursday, but it looks like the weather is gonna rain on my parade.

[Walkalong]

Am I the only one waiting with gleefull anticipation on this one?
( impatiently may be a better description ) Come on Tuner. We are in suspense here.:)

[Hemicuda]

Me wants some of this to try... Methinks it might fix MANY lube problems...

[Rick O'Shea]

Re: LSA.

Is this white lithium grease? I try to keep up with my lubes but that acronym escaped me.

[mpthole]

Lubricant, Small Arms (I think)

Nope its not a grease. Its been around forever. Here's a link (http://www.colbubbie.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=93). You might be able to find it cheaper elsewhere. I'm not endorsing that vendor, its just the first decent link I found after a Google search.

[Rick O'Shea]

Thanks,
Late to the party, I guess.
The only military lube I'm familiar with is the sticky brown grease that I use on my Garand.
Not the same stuff, I suppose.

[f4t9r]

Is this LSA stuff the same thing that Tuner's talking about testing or diff ??

[Mandirigma]

f4t9r, no not the LSA stuff

Product Tuner and DB of berryhillguns.com are testing is some sort of grease.

I'm still in the testing phase for the new lube. I want to make sure that it really works well under different conditions before I put my name on it plus I have to purchase it in pretty large quantities so if it doesn't work out, I don't want to be stuck with all that grease!

When I asked 1911Tuner to test it, I didn't know he was going to publish his results. The "Gun Goo" name was kind of a joke but I have a feeling that it might be too late to change it! If I decide to market the stuff, I don't expect to start selling it for at least another month or two.

I sent an email checking on it :) thats what I got.

[sm]

Note to self:

Check on 1911 that is off site and not been looked at in 18 months along with other guns.

Find out if anyone else has cleaned any of the 1911 "we use".
[I know I have not, I don't own a cleaning rod, much less a cleaning kit that I know of].

See how the 1911 9x23 race gun is holding up using Dexcron II Transmisson fluid, all I had at the time and I have only shot ~ 2K round and not cleaned it...didn't look like anyone else had either.

Ballistol, Singer Sewing Machine Oil (tin can) Browning Gun Oil in a Tin can, Hoppe's Lubricating oil (tin can) and LSA is what all I have been using except when all I had was RIG +P and STOH that day for two of the guns...
Those two got snowed on and being a nice guy and all I at least took them apart, looked at them, put the grease on them, went back out and shot some more...
"These got snowed on - somebody might want to check..." At least I tossed a note in with the guns when I tossed them (literally) into the safe.

Gee....bone stock guns just run, and run and run and run...

I ever mention I used Tabasco sauce on one one time? Yeah well I put Dexcron ATF in the empty Tabasco sauce bottles and ...err...just grabbed a bottle and lubed.

Gun run, so didn't worry about it. ATF is not good on Chicken Wangs...FWIW.

Don't ask me how how times I have had to use ATF off my / a transmission dip stick when I needed lube.

I just up show to shoot the durn things...snag one to CCW...whatever ammo is in the mag(s) or handy from a coffee can, I load a mag with.

The new Springfield is still running one guy dropped off...we never even cleaned the factory lube out of it.
"Here, y'all shoot this one anyway ya want".
All we have done is shoot it, and drop whatever lube handy in it from time to time...since July of 2005.

It still goes bang every time...why mess with what works?
One of these days maybe someone will take that one apart and clean it.
Not me of course, I don't own a cleaning rod/ kit , I alway seem to forget where we keep the ones [cleaning kits] with the guns too

I finally turned into my Mentors - no wonder they grinned as they did all the time.

:D

[1911Tuner]

After the initial test phase, I came home and gave the pistols a cursory dry cleaning. I wiped the Goo out of the frame rails with a dry shop towel, and left'em dry...but the stuff held on. When the guns were reassembled, they still felt smooth.

A third control pistol was more thoroughly cleaned with brake cleaner in order to remove the lube completely, and re-oiled with LSA. It was slick/smooth enough, as normal...but nothing even close to the feel provided by Berryhill's experimental lube. I can't really call it grease, because it's not exactly a grease...but I can't simply call it lube either...and it's surely not oil by the loosest definition of the word. So, I guess all I can call it is...Goo.:cool:

Good stuff.

[U.S.SFC_RET]

I am like a two year old.:cuss: I want it, it's mine, if you have it and I want it it is mine. If I gave it to you and I want it back it's mine. ( I didn't give it to you) But I want it.:banghead:

[Hemicuda]

Dangit, lets get this stuff marketed... I got a wall of Smittys that are BEGGING for some of this gun goo...

[Walkalong]

Any news here?:)

[1911Tuner]

Only that I'm still usin' the stuff with resounding great results. As far as when and if it will be marketed is Dave's call.

[f4t9r]

Hey Tuner , how about getting this guy on the move. I want some or would be glad to test some for you just to make sure !!!!!!:)

[1911Tuner]

Hear that, David? If you goop it...they will come.:D

[Red Tornado]

How can we get in on the Beta testing? :p Shoot, I'll even pay for it.
RT

[Lupinus]

I'd be happy to see how it works in a marlin modle 60, Win 94, Rem 700 adl, and Springfield 84c lol

[U.S.SFC_RET]

1911Tuner Quoted:Hear that, David? If you goop it...they will come.

David We want to make you rich So sell us the stuff and we will talk about it to all of our gun buddies all over the world who don't even frequent THR. We will mention you by name and business and put everyone else out of business.

If Tuner says so it is so!

P.S I am a Cruffler and I know people..:cuss:

[garrett1955]

Yeah get some sample packs, or pre-release stuff on the market. If it is this good it will be on every message board on the net. Then people will be hounding you for more. Soon you won't have to work, just produce.


Good luck!

[Mandirigma]

...plus I have to purchase it in pretty large quantities so if it doesn't work out, I don't want to be stuck with all that grease!


I know I will be getting at least a half dozen jars/containers/tubes on my own. I've got a few shooters that I will toss it to an see what they think. A couple of them run gun accessories shops of various sorts. I would like being able to introduce them to the new goo! AFIK they don't do any gun forums, but they ARE shooting enthuiasts.

Like others, if Tuner says its good enough for him. I'm sold.

[U.S.SFC_RET]

Propose a group buy on the THR. We will Clean up literally.:D

[stevemis]

I wonder if this magical goo is actually Lubriplate SFL #0 cut with ATF. Lubriplate SFL is supposedly a fantastic (aluminum based) grease. The #0 is a thickness (pretty thick) ... it's white. One could loosen it up a little with some ATF (which is not uncommon on a pistol) and you've got something that might be pinkish/purple.

I'm in the process of tracking down the Lubriplate SFL to try out.

Steve

[Mandirigma]

Any new info on the Goo 1911Tuner??

[1911Tuner]

No more news other than that the stuff is still workin' as claimed. Now it's up to Mr. Berryhill as to if and when he'll market it.

Anyway...I got mine!:D

[Geno]

Any product that protects and enhances my Colts is worth reading. I just bookmarked it.

[loki.fish]

Bring on the Goo!!!!!!!

[Fred Fuller]

Tuner,

Tell him to get this stuff on the market- some of us don't have much patience (or memory, for that matter).


What were we talking about?


lpl/nc 8^)

[BHPshooter]

Agreed -- we need this stuff!

He's got another buyer waiting patiently. :)

Wes

[KMKeller]

Okay folks, I also offered my valued firearms as a test bed for Dave's Gun Goo and this is my first official report.

I cleaned and completely de-lubed the following firearms for the test;

1. Sig P226ST in 9mm – My duty match competition gun
2. S&W Performance Center 945-1 – My distinguished match competition gun
3. Sig P220ST in .45
4. S&W 1911
5. Springfield XD .45 Tactical (brand spankin’ new I might add)
6. Walther P22

For each of these firearms, I completely cleaned and de-lubed (as in detailed tear down) them using brake cleaner to remove any residual oils. All firearms were re-assembled using FP-10 on internals and Dave’s Gun Goo on the slide and frame rails. I prepared a cross section of ammunition as follows;

.22LR
• CCI Mini-Mag
9mm
• Magtech 115 grain ball
• Independence 115 grain ball
• Remington 115 grain ball
• Handload 115 grain SWCBB over 4.0 grains VVN340
• Handload 115 grain SWCBB over 3.8 grains Titegroup
• Handload 120 grain Montana Gold IFP over 3.8 grains Titegroup

.45ACP
• Magtech 230 grain ball
• Independence 230 grain ball
• Remington 230 grain ball
• Handload 200 grain SWC over 4.0 grains Titegroup
• Handload 200 grain Montana Gold JFP over 4.0 grains Titegroup
• Remington 230 grain Golden Sabre

For the test, I took guns 1 and 2 to the range with me, as these two are my primary shooters. Gun 3, is my current carry gun and as such, was lubed up and tucked in its holster to test lube drying. Gun 4 is also a carry gun, but I decided to use it to run through the NC CCH concealed carry qualification course a few times. The last two were taken to the range and while fired frequently, were not fired near as heavily as the first two. I did however, take ALL of them to the range on one occasion and let my co-workers fire them. Essentially for one day, they were fired constantly for about 2 hours with time off only for reloading. Here’s how it went.

Range Trip 1 – Just me and my guns

Sig P226ST 9mm
• 200 rounds mixed headstamp 115 grain ball
• 100 rounds Remington 115 grain ball
• 100 rounds Handload 115 grain SWCBB over 4.0 grains VVN340
• 100 rounds Handload 115 grain SWCBB over 3.8 grains Titegroup
• 100 rounds Handload 120 grain Montana Gold IFP over 3.8 grains Titegroup

S&W Performance Center 945-1 .45

• 100 rounds Magtech 230 grain ball
• 50 rounds Independence 230 grain ball
• 50 rounds Remington 230 grain ball
• 100 rounds Handload 200 grain SWC over 4.0 grains Titegroup
• 100 rounds Handload 200 grain Montana Gold JFP over 4.0 grains Titegroup

After the range trip, both firearms were dismantled, examined and reassembled without cleaning. The gun goo was obviously dirty and had trapped significant carbon, fouling, etc. from the spent powder. When sampled however, the goo was still very slick and didn’t feel in the least bit gritty. I also dismantled the P220, and found that the goo had changed colors somewhat, but being unfired was clean and didn’t seem to have dried in the least in the 2 weeks it had been sitting.

Range Trip 2 – 1911 Wring out

S&W 1911 .45

• 100 rounds Magtech 230 grain ball
• 12 rounds Independence 230 grain ball
• 100 rounds Remington 230 grain ball
• 100 rounds Handload 200 grain Montana Gold JFP over 4.0 grains Titegroup

Shot the NC CCH course of fire until I ran out of ammo. Gun functioned perfectly until the last box, which was the Independence 230 grain ball. Began getting failures to extract, failures to feed on almost every round. Shooting 12 rounds out of the box took almost 30 minutes. Once the jam was cleared however, the gun functioned perfectly. Holstered the gun for the time being and went home. I was out of decent ammo.


Range Trip 3 – PPC practice

Sig P226ST 9mm

• 20 rounds Handload 115 grain SWCBB over 4.0 grains VVN340
• 50 rounds Handload 115 grain SWCBB over 3.8 grains Titegroup
• 150 rounds Handload 120 grain Montana Gold IFP over 3.8 grains Titegroup

S&W 1911 .45

• 50 rounds Independence 230 grain ball
• 50 rounds Remington 230 grain ball
• 50 rounds Remington 230 grain Golden Sabre


Since the 1911 was giving me fits last time, I picked up additional ammo for testing, including especially my preferred carry round. I won’t carry a gun that fails. I loaded 1911 mags with 8 rounds each of the Independence, Remington Ball and Golden Sabre. I loaded up the Independence and watched the gun jam on every round. I loaded up the Remington Ball and the gun functioned perfectly… hmmmmm… I then loaded up the Golden Sabre and again, the gun functioned perfectly. I repeated the test with the same results and concluded the Independence was crap ammo. I examined some of the rounds that were failing to feed and discovered that the bullet, upon contacting the feed ramp, were pushing back into the case and the bottom edge of the case seemed to be catching on the feed ramp! No more of that ammo for me. Good point is, the lube was not the failure point. For the Sig, I removed the barrel, cleaned it, lubed it with FP-10 and reinstalled it without cleaning the rest of the firearm. I locked the Sig in a Ransom rest and all of my match loads shot around 1.25 inches at 25 yards. I reassembled the Sig and ran through the Duty Match course of fire twice (96 rounds) before heading home.

I also took apart the P220 when I returned home to find the lube present and accounted for. No drying had occurred and the slide cycled as if on ball bearings.

Range Trip 4 – Company Outing

This trip was pretty cut and dried. I typically bring my hardware to the range and invite whomever wishes, to join me for some shooting.

All firearms listed in the beginning of this were brought. We put Magtech ammo through each of the firearms listed above except the .22 for about two hours. I don’t know how much ammo was expended. When I returned home last night, I dismantled each firearm and examined them closely. Without fail, regardless of the amount of ammo burned, the Gun Goo was still slick and intact and although flat filthy on the high round count guns, still lubricating as expected. Wiping the Goo out on all firearms and then reassembling them left the metal still slick and the slides cycling as if on ball bearings.

Needless to say, I’m very impressed with Mr. Berryhill’s efforts. This stuff works as well as any lube I’ve used before, and holds place as well as most grease. If I had one complaint, it would be that it is a little thin for my taste and I would like it a smidge thicker. This weekend, I will be scouring all my firearms and cleaning them thoroughly. I will be applying the Gun Goo to all of them on reassembly.

Hey Dave, put me on your distribution list for further testing and the final product.

P.S. Most of the testing took place in 40-45 degree weather except for the last one.

[1911Tuner]

Kirk! That goo is some "gooful" stuff ain't it? Slicker'n...uh...nevermind.:D

It was a real hoot tryin' to get it offa your fingers, hey?

Sounds like that Smith & Wesson needs tweakin'. Bring it next trip, and make a detailed list of everything it's doin' wrong.

Dave...If you goop it, they will come...

[Sam Adams]

Put me on the list of those who'd like to test it and buy it. This stuff sounds fantastic, and given the number of serious shooters on this thread who love it, it'll be a real commercial success.

BTW, I'm wondering whether part of the reason it may not be available has to do with supplying the stuff for a more, uh, personal use: :D :D

Then I tried to wipe it off of my fingers...and no matter how hard I wiped, my fingers stayed slick. They were still slick at bedtime last night, in spite of the fact that I use Dawn dishwashing liquid for most of my hand-washing chores.

It was a real hoot tryin' to get it offa your fingers, hey?

:neener: Just kidding - but please start selling this stuff, ASAP!

[ZeSpectre]

Hey, I've got a Rossi 92 that I use for cowboy action shooting that is beggin' to try this stuff!

[KMKeller]

'Tuner! Yeah that stuff is super slick. After lubing up the guns, I tried to stick my booger hook up my right nostril to scratch an itch and damn near put my eye out!!

The Smith is humming just as pretty as the day you touched it up. Dang ammo was the culprit. Wouldn't feed the 230 grain ball Independence becuase the bullets would set back on impact with the feed ramp. Remington 230 grain ball would do just peachy.

Also, remember that old colt slide I have that was measuring funky? PM me your address and I'll mail it to you. Do with it what you can or will.

Kirk

[1911Tuner]

Kirk...I gotta feelin' that the problem with that Smith is magazine-related.
I may have the cure. So far, it's worked in 7 outta 10 pistols with zero tweakin'. Just a different style magazine. It's an old design. Colt's design.

PM incomin'.

[skinnyguy]

1995 Remington 700 .270
198? Bryco Mod59 9mm
197? Glenfield Mod 60 .22
2007 Ruger P89

The first 3 could use some "loosening up" in a couple places, the last one, I want to keep for a LOOOOOOONG time!!! From the sounds of it, this is the stuff to help me do just those things.

I"M INTERESTED!!! (yes, i'm shouting)

[Dave Berryhill]

Hi guys - sorry but the Tuner jumped the gun on me. When I sent him some lube to try, I was just beginning to test it and wasn't expecting him to go public with it. I've still got more testing to do and I'm in the middle of moving the shop to the Austin, TX area so it will probably be a couple more months before I'm ready to market the stuff. I will also be adding some new parts and accessories to my website in another week or two.

So far all of the testing and feedback has been positive and I'm glad to hear that Kirk's testing in cold weather went well.

[saltydog452]

Please add the wide spur hammer to your parts availability.

salty.

[loki.fish]

That S & W 1911 problem sounds like the problem I had with my SA 1911. I bought 2 Wilson Combat 8 round mags and it's functioned fine ever since....even with Independence ammo. The factory mags were the culprit, I assume, since it ran fine last range trip. I won't trust it for defensive purposes until I put a few hundred more rounds through it to make sure it's going to be consistent.


Bring on the Goo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

[MD_Willington]

:neener: Is it latex safe :neener:

:D

[txgho1911]

Tuner & KMKeller, You cleaned a control pistol with break cleaner and it defaulted to a pre goo state with LSA. What about cleaning sufficient for re finishing? Plating, blue, or any of the more exotic like boron-carbide or such.
I ask because I may want to opt for a dark gray to black coating on my SS pistols. Adding another layer of protection to the SS for corrosion and make harder to see. :)

[antarti]

Does this goo have any anti-rust properties, for those of us in hot/humid climes?

Tests I've done with some other products have them either melting or drying into the consistency of caulking, which is why I just stick with CLP and Lubriplate (which really, really works well when you need a grease) in order to keep the salt-air rust demons away.

[KMKeller]

That S & W 1911 problem sounds like the problem I had with my SA 1911. I bought 2 Wilson Combat 8 round mags and it's functioned fine ever since....even with Independence ammo. The factory mags were the culprit, I assume, since it ran fine last range trip. I won't trust it for defensive purposes until I put a few hundred more rounds through it to make sure it's going to be consistent.

The mags that came with it are the Wilson 47D? mags I believe, and I bought 10 more for it. All have worked well with everything except that Independence ammo. I think I just got a bad box of ammo.

[Amish_Bill]

I know I'm not going to remember to check this thread in a few months... so maybe the thread subscription feature will be my friend.... :D

Mainly, I've got a nice Springfield that likes to gunk up and slow down after a few boxes of ammo. It comes right back up after a quick cleaning, so I'm thinking that this lube might be just the thing for it.

ps - Tuner - those stealth tritiums are still working, despite the best we both threw at them. :evil:

[1911Tuner]

A.Bill wrote:

>
ps - Tuner - those stealth tritiums are still working, despite the best we both threw at them.<
***************

Wow! I was tellin' a guy about that just the other day. Haven't had it to happen again, and never saw it before. Musta been a heavy burr or toolmark in that slot is all I can say. I keep the correct part on-hand all the time...so if you're ever up this way and wanna try again. :cool: I'm a lot closer and easier to get to now that I've moved. Just 3 miles from an exit on I-85.

[Amish_Bill]

I'll have to keep this in mind. I don't find myself driving through the Carolinas much anymore, but the memories of my last visit are pleasant enough that I'm definitely up for another.

Thanks!

[Dave Berryhill]

Does this goo have any anti-rust properties, for those of us in hot/humid climes?

Honestly, I don't know. It's primary job is to lubricate. The slide rails and other parts that you apply it to are probably safe from rust but I'm not sure I'd want to coat the outside of a pistol with it.

[Fred Fuller]

Hiya Dave, and welcome to THR! Gotcher ears burnin, did we? 8^)

Looking forward to updates from you on the availability of GunGoo. Don't be bashful...

lpl/nc

[Dave Berryhill]

Thanks! You can blame Tuner :neener:

[VARifleman]

Sounds like it'd be great on the slide rails of my Baer, and also really good on the bolt of my Anschutz.

MC2500 is great for rust protection btw. I have a damascus knife I've been working on for a while (since july) and after pulling the bits of rust off with 0000 steel wool and puting on MC2500, it doesn't show any rust at all.

[1911Tuner]

That's right. Blame ol' Tuner. :cool:

+1 on the not wantin' it all over the gun. It'd be like tryin' to hang onto a greased pig!:scrutiny:

[VARifleman]

So Tuner, how much of that stuff do you have? I'm in NC too and have some 1911s and some rifles it could be tested on. :D

[1911Tuner]

VARifleman...I've got enough to do a few rifles. Come on down and we'll slick'em up.

[ilcylic]

I too would buy some of this stuff on 'Tuner's nod.

Bookmarking. I will want some of this as soon as it's available.

[STAGE 2]

Ditto. If this thing is better than FP-10, then I'm sold.

[Amish_Bill]

Dang Tuner - I'd have never pegged you as this good a salesman... :D

[Mandirigma]

You should hear about the 7rd mags he's got me looking at now after reading a few threads.

I have always hated the hurry up and wait game. -sigh-

[Jacka L Ope]

Not to rain on any parade, but seems to me there are thousands upon thousands of guns out there that are likely functioning just fine on a diet of 3-in-1 oil? Or... Not that there isn't something better but I rather doubt I'll be disposing of my supply of Lubriplate any time soon?

[1911Tuner]

Howdy Jack...Welcome aboard.

You're absolutely correct, and as previously stated, I've always been one of those that feels like "Oil is Oil" and generally use Mil-Spec LSA...but since Dave asked me to give this stuff a whirl and report back...I did...and I've been pretty dang well impressed with its performance. Also note that I've tried most of the trendy lubricants at one time or another, and really couldn't
see a justification for the cost when oil...almost any oil....did the job.

Two identical guns...one with the "WunderGoo" and one with oil...both fired an identical number of rounds...were stripped down and dry-wiped to remove any visible lubricant. After reassembly, there was a marked difference in the way that they felt when hand-cycling.

I recently did another little test with it in which I started with a thoroughly clean, dry gun...applied the stuff...hand-cycled the gun 10 times...stripped it back down and dry-wiped the lube...and reassembled the gun. It was still slick. A range trip and another wipe-down later, and the rails still moved as smooth as glass...even after 250+ rounds downrange.

The advantages are obvious.

It doesn't run off. Once the gun is treated a couple times, it keeps lubricating, even after it's been removed...which means that there's nothing to attract and hold grit and dust. Although Dave says that it'll be fairly expensive for a small amount, it requires such a tiny amount that it'll be cheaper to use in the long run. I like it.

[Amish_Bill]

This is sounding a lot like Moly-Slide without the Moly Mess.

I've long used MolySlide as part of the 15 minute poor man's AR trigger job. It's messy, but good.

[Jacka L Ope]

Well, I'll keep an ear to the ground. Good luck with development. :)

[orionengnr]

Call it:

"Tuner Goo"

I want some...please?

[Plink]

Tuner, if that's the same stuff I'm thinking of, it was designed for the aircraft industry. I was hoping to beat him to the market with it! :)

I've been testing a new grease also and it sure sounds the same from your description. If it's the same stuff, it's definately an amazing lube alright.

[10-Ring]

Sounds like some nice stuff. I'd be interested to see if this stuff stands up to the torture tests :scrutiny:

[agd1953]

Sounds like it would make some great case lube for sizing cases:scrutiny:

[FieroCDSP]

How well does it work on older auto-loading rifles that have a lot of contact surface? My SKS likes grease, but cruds up quick from the cheapo ammo. This stuff sounds great. Has anyone tried the baking-on approach? If it locks itself in after a couple of applications without baking, that's a plus, but I'd be interested in knowing what it does when you bake it. Just for giggles :evil:

[ouchman7]

i like all the better lubes on the market...clp br free,MILITEC is a real good one,and a couple more that you see every time you shop. all great,especially the militec imo.after taking the advice of an engineer relative of mine,that i know for a fact that he is great at what he does,i tried his recomendation and am now rethinking the bucks i spend on these little bottles of specialty oils...AMSOIL ,there are no negatives...its the best synthetic(and thats pure 100% synthetic) oil in the country.for that matter ,mobil 1 would work but its not a pure ,100% synthetic like you might think.they are able to say they are, but they are not.AMSOIL is. google it,you'll be glad you did. guns,cars,machines,knives,its amazing.you get a relatively large quantity for a good price.they have different grades for any application. im sold,and my guns never looked/worked as good...

[ouchman7]

could anybody out there educate me as to why/where i need to use grease instead of/with oil,on firearms?

[EllisWyatt]

could anybody out there educate me as to why/where i need to use grease instead of/with oil,on firearms?

The quick version is, use oil on rotating parts, use grease on sliding parts.

1911Tuner wrote a pretty detailed piece about lubricants in the last year or so, a search should turn it up.

[nplant]

Any news on the goo? I'm hoping it will be available for trials by us non-1911 Tuner types very soon.

Dave? Tuner?

[Dave Berryhill]

The tests have all been very positive, I'm just juggling too many projects right now to get it packaged and ready to sell.

[Lupinus]

How's the stuff work in cold weather? Does it gum up or anything?

I wanna be a test subject lol

[Dave Berryhill]

My less-than-scientific cold weather testing so far has been to put some in the freezer. It thickened slightly but since it's a very light grease, it was still thinner than other gun greases are at room temperature. I had one tester shoot in freezing weather and he had no malfunctions.

Still, it's petroleum based so it will thicken as it gets colder. I would probably choose something more suitable for cold temps if I was planning on carrying or hunting in freezing weather.

[Lupinus]

Sounds good. My new sig likes a light greasing on the rails with a little oil floater. Sounds like some good stuff

[Hutch]

C'mon, dude, get this stuff on ebay, at least. I want some. <whine off>

[Mandirigma]

Tuner. Mr. Berryhill.

Its been a while, any news or should we just let this old thread die?

[1911Tuner]

Dunno. Dave has been quiet about it for a while now. Hope he markets it. Good stuff.

[doc2rn]

Mr Berryhill, Tuner said it, we want it, can we have some now please.

[XDKingslayer]

I have a question about this stuff. It sounds great and must be slicker than snot on a doorknob, but I'm concerned about it NOT coming off. I know the question was posed about removing it for refinishing purposes, but my concern is a tad different.

Have you noticed any carbon fouling when it doesn't come off. Does the layer that stays on hold carbon or grit?

[1911Tuner]

I know the question was posed about removing it for refinishing purposes, but my concern is a tad different.
Have you noticed any carbon fouling when it doesn't come off. Does the layer that stays on hold carbon or grit?

It'll come off with any good solvent, or even rubbing alcohol and a little effort. It just won't come off by dry wiping it...and any oil or grease will hold carbon and grit.

[Dave Berryhill]

I've got the stuff in bulk but I haven't had a chance to put it into individual containers. Life has been a little crazy for the last couple of months but I'll try to get the lube ready soon.

[JerryM]

After having used many lubes starting with machine and 3 in 1 oil in the 40s I have concluded that Mobile 1 is as good as anything, and better than most.

I have read the claims of manufacturers, but have not found anything better than Mobile 1. Currently I do have some FP10 and it is a good lube, but when it runs out I will stay with Mobile 1

If I remember correctly, Richard Heinie once said that after the break in period he uses Mobile 1.

Regards,
Jerry

[1911Tuner]

I have concluded that Mobile 1 is as good as anything, and better than most.

You ain't tried Berryhill's Double Throwdown Super Goop yet.

I've been to forty-three rat killins', three chicken pluckins', five county watermelon roasts, and an all-night goat milkin', and the stuff beats anything I've ever seen, heard tell of, or stepped in.

[Amish_Bill]

Of course, if we can't get this super gloop, well... that does make Mobil-1 compare a little higher.

[Ben Shepherd]

One more BTT with this. I've been fine with dry lube and a touch of tetra grease where needed so far. It seems like when I'm shooting it's either dusty or real cold. So oil type lubes haven't worked for me.

But now I'm wondering.........

[loki.fish]

Wow, forgot all about this thread. Glad it got bumped up again. Still want some of this stuff.

[rust collector]

Seems to be plenty of demand for this stuff. Now, will Mr Berryhill start making money and meeting needs or will the demand have to be filled by someone else?

The lube may be rocket science but marketing is not. Small containers, labels and fulfillment can be subcontracted readily enough. If the stuff isn't available and there is no rollout planned, this thread resembles Ruger vaporware peddling of a previous era.

No offense to Tuner--I appreciate the information. It's just that the supplier should supply, or drop a barrel of the stuff on someone who will, before the next big thing hits the streets.

[Cannonball888]

Berryhill's Double Throwdown Super Goop

Super Gloop

Gun Goo

We can start brand name suggestions to keep the thread bumped while we impatiently wait :D

[1911Tuner]

No offense to Tuner--

None taken. Dave's had about three too many irons in the fire lately. He's asked me to keep mum, so I'll let him disclose it when the time's right. Those 18-20 hour days'll kill ya.

I actually wasn't supposed to reveal the existence of the lube when I did...misunderstood Dave's request for a test run and report...so I guess I jumped the gun a little, but the stuff is so good that I got all wound up and blew his cover.

[Liberty1776]

WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I wants it, I does!!! This is so not fair! I have been building and building my cravings for this lube... MOM!!!!!

[tkkr]

Is there an ETA?

[trickyasafox]

well im sold. when its available- like so many others here, I'll be buying :)

[Hacker15E]

I've been to forty-three rat killins', three chicken pluckins', five county watermelon roasts, and an all-night goat milkin', and the stuff beats anything I've ever seen, heard tell of, or stepped in.

That's one helluva endorsement!

[Walkalong]

This thread again! Dang, now I am itching to try it again. :banghead:

Let us know. :)

[jrfoxx]

Mr.Berryhill, would it motivate you any if we all made you a deal? You provide the "wonder lube", and we all promise to try and make you a rich man by buying it(over, and over, and over if it's as good as Tuner says, and I dont see why he'd be exaggerating at all)? I think that sounds pretty fair.....:D

someone sets us up the "wonder lube"!!!!;)

[trickyasafox]

I just don't want this thread to die. Sorry for bumping it but i'm really interested in this stuff

[Rustynuts]

Is it "sticky" slick? Sounds silicone based to me if it's hard to wipe off even after washing. Anyone try that pure silicone stuff they sell for greasing up plumbing connections?

[stubob2517]

I just read the entire thread --- I want some!!! I want it bad!!!! Please fess it up, you know you want to...

[m1009]

Please post here so we can all benefit from this wondrous stuff! I will put my order in when you cough up the right info! :D

[m1009]

P.S. I'll keep pestering until it happens, lol!

[camacho]

Another potential customer here! Based on what I have read so far this stuff is awesome. Can not wait for it to come out!

[rust collector]

How about

gun goo roo
gun greeeeeze
railube
pistol paste
EZ'11 or
weasel wiz?

[Cannonball888]

Mr. Magoo®

[doc2rn]

If this stuff is slicker-n-snot on a brass doorknob, hook us up already Tuner. No offense, just cant wait to try it. I got a Rem 700 that I cant wait to put it on.

[Rick O'Shea]

I like "Berryhill's Super Goo".

Brings all the ideas together, gives credit where credit is due, and rolls off the tongue nicely (the name, not the goo...)

If you use the name, a small sample will be ample remittance for my contribution to the rollout of this fine product... :D .

[45crittergitter]

Down here in MS, we'd call it "Slicker than greased owl****." Oops, guess that one's out. ;)

[homeka45]

Hoping for future updates.

[454c]

Tuner, if understand your description correctly, the guns were just as slick after a dry wipe as they were with the "goop", correct? If so, how long did they remain slick?

Reason I ask is, I've heard some cold weather hunters say they run their guns dry to prevent the cold weather problems. If this stuff works after being wiped off (dry), those type of hunters might find this stuff interesting.

[1911Tuner]

Tuner, if understand your description correctly, the guns were just as slick after a dry wipe as they were with the "goop", correct?

Actually, the slide felt a little more free after the rails were dry-wiped than it did right after the initial application, before firing the gun.

how long did they remain slick?

Through three more fairly extended range sessions...with a dry-wipe cleaning between shoots. Of course, I used a shop towel dampened with carb cleaner to wipe the carbon fouling and other cack from the frame and barrel ramps, and the barrel bed. The guns tend to get a little funky after a lot of cast bullets down the pipe...but aside from that there was no cleaning or oiling of the rails.

[BlackBearME]

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/3268/lolcatrenderer2aspxtopdfz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[camacho]

Any news on the gun-goo?

[JCMAG]

Supply and demand. Here's the demand, fork it over. :D

You could always sell the recipe to me and I'll take care of it for you...

[camacho]

Is the gun-goo coming out soon? My guns are getting impatient:)

[doc2rn]

I have heard of building anticipation but this is sorely over doing it. Guess it's just another great American invention we will never see, too bad I really wanted some.

[Harve Curry]

Sounds like this product penetrates the surface pores of whatever it's applied to and stays with it. There's been alot of research into that for engine applications for decades.

I'm interested in buying some for my guns.

[32winspl]

I googled Berryhill Guns the other day, to get an email address. I sent off an email to him asking about availability and door-to-door price but I haven't received a reply yet.

[rust collector]

This thread was started 17 months ago. This lube is certainly available from other sources, and finding those may be more productive.

[camacho]

This lube is certainly available from other sources, and finding those may be more productive.

That's worth pursuing but if we don't know what those other sources call this stuff, very little we can do.

[308win]

I don't think so. I'm now doing firearms work full time for a forensic laboratory and stopped selling parts and accessories due to the lack of time. Thanks!Dave BerryhillBerryhill Custom, LLCwww.berryhillguns.com

I received the above response from Dave Berryhill when I sent him an email and ask to be put on the list for when he started selling it. From his response I read it that he was going to get this stuff from someone either packaged and labeled or buy in bulk and package for resale. Maybe Tuner could ask him who the supplier is since Dave Berryhill isn't going to market it.

[camacho]

I guess so much for the gun-goo.

1911Tuner, can you find out what that stuff was and who has it (if anyone)? Thanks in advance!

[308win]

Could this stuff be it? (http://predatorpmr.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=19&category_id=8&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=25)

[308win]

Go here and there are reviews of different paintball gun lubes. (http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/?sort=new&prod=4613&page=1#163807) Why wouldn't paintball gun lube work on a firearm other than the obvious effects of heat?

[camacho]

Why wouldn't paintball gun lube work on a firearm other than the obvious effects of heat?

If I only knew anything about paintball guns?

[neviander]

Sounds like something the EPA would ban if they caught wind of it. But it sounds like good stuff, no word on if it's out yet?

[308win]

There is a paint ball facility with a pro shop (that what they call them?) not too far from my work. If I can I will stop by there in the next couple of days and see if they have any of the products on the review site. My guess is that the Mookies stuff is it.

[doc2rn]

Maybe this is it?
http://www.montanaxtreme.com/products/gun_grease.php
or
http://www.brianenos.com/pages/slide-glide.html
but this is the old standby
http://www.gunbutter.com/gunbuttergrease.htm

[camacho]

What about the Ultima-Lube from Wilson. This also seems to be a product that's resembles the gun-goo. Plus Bill Wilson highly recommends it in his 1911 book.

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/a_ultimalube.asp

[K.L.O.sako]

tuner? and or mr. berryhill. i've been watching this thread for almost a year now and i think one of you guy's owes us some closure on this e.g. what it was, were we can find it ,commercial name? i feel like i've been strung along for months with no payoff. very unsporting ,don't you think? please try and resolve this so we oil fanatics can go on with our lives. thanks.

[Catshooter]

Well, I don't agree that they "owe" us anything.

Indeed, though, some sort of closure would be nice. I too have been watching this thread with some eagerness.


Cat

[1911Tuner]

Well...It looks like it's not gonna be a "go" for the wunderlube. After a fairly extensive beta-testing phase...the market isn't there. Hard to convince most folks to change, and...like with any other established product that has its faithful base...the question of whether a new one is better than the status quo looms large.

As for me, I'm convinced. My hard beaten test platforms haven't been retreated since the initial start-up...and the stuff is still there. The pistols feel like buttered ball bearings. So, for the small supply that I've got left, I'll guard it jealously and use it sparingly.

[cambeul41]

Ah, shucks!

[Jolly Rogers]

Another DANG...
Joe

[scott22]

pfffft if thats stuff is as you say Tuner Im pretty sure I could sell the hell out of it locally and so could damn near anybody else. Word travels quickly about products that can do what you claim. Well, I'll keep watching this for any other news =/

[308win]

I am sure the product is exactly as described; I also know that packaging, distribution, marketing, and fulfillment are expensive - and, the smaller the volume the more expensive per unit. A friend of mine owned the CleansOil product and while I don't recall the exact number, the cost per unit for the packaging was eye opening.

[doc2rn]

Tuner convince him to make it in small batches durring his leisure time and sell it here. I couldnt care less if it came in a toilet paper tube lined with a baggie. You use what works, he was just afraid that it worked so well he would not see repeat customers for a long time. If it was that good I would pay a higher price.

[trickyasafox]

I'd buy it off here. I mean heck- the fact that we all remember this thread is proof enough he could make some money

[andyjason]

I would love to have some also. Would he sell small batches????

[Zesty]

Has anyone else here tried that "Jardine's Extreme" weapon's grease? I bought some off a recommendation I read on this site I believe, and I personally can't picture there being a better and cheaper all-around high-quality grease.

[Seotaji]

I'll take some. Put me on the list for samples and anything else.

[Intune]

I'd like to try it!

[Mandirigma]

Tuner, would you at least point us in the right direction? PM it if ya want, I won't tell anyone else :)

[1911Tuner]

Mandirigma...I wish I could. Dave doesn't make the stuff. He gets it in large quantities from a supplier and repackages it. It's expensive, and he has to invest pretty serious money to get a unit...likely at least a quart, or maybe more. He's decided that, by the time he'd sell enough of it in one-ounce containers to recoup his investment...he could have made more money with the funds tied up in a long-term CD.

Also, since he's taken a job with an agency as a forensic firearms examiner, he's very limited on time, and has even cut his pistolsmithing business down to a minimum.

Meanwhile, I'ver got enough of the stuff left to do maybe another dozen guns, plus enough to retreat my beaters again should they ever need it...which looks doubtful because it just doesn't quit once it's established.

Incidentally...to dangle the carrot a bit...it's the real deal in the internals of a double-action revolver, too.

Now, if...IF...I decide to order up a batch of the stuff and repackage it myself...ya'll will be among the first to know. I've been turnin' it over in my mind, and since I'm retired, I've got a little time on my hands. Now, all I gotta do is raise the money. That's the wild card. I'm fast gettin' hooked on single-action revolvers, and I anticipate a few more additions to my
burgeoning collection in the next few weeks.

[REPOMAN]

Sent you a PM, Tuner

[Hutch]

Damn, Tuner. You're toooooo cagey. 'Fess up. Maybe we could do a group buy or something.

[Jolly Rogers]

At your convenience Tuner...I'm in for some. Be sure to let the folks know over at Johns house.;)
Joe

[scott22]

... PM sent

[doc2rn]

Group buy sounds pretty good. Let us know.

[45Guy]

I'm in if there's a group buy.

And, hey, who doesn't love more lube?:D

[hangtime]

Tuner takes the plunge after we all send him $$. The group buy from this forum alone should be enough to recoup the initial investment and once we find out what all else this stuff works wonders on Tuner has a nice retirement income to invest in 19th century hoglegs (:D). I'm thinkin' it sounds about right for my bass reel and several other projects around the house and if I can keep my wife's sewing machine running smoothly I may not have to sleep with the dog for a week after my next gun purchase. We just need to make sure we send Dave an ounce oe two of the stuff for his trouble. Well?

[The Freeholder]

I'm in if it works out.

[OcelotZ3]

What's the minimum order and how much is it? Ballpark...

[Ben Shepherd]

He's worried the market isn't there? Good lord, this THREAD ALONE is over 10,000 views.

I'd be in on an "inside" buy in a heartbeat.

[Mandirigma]

http://thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=4088116&postcount=95

well, still waiting, using some other stuff, but still have to re-apply it after every so often....

[divemedic]

I'm in. Let me know.

[orionengnr]

Bookmarking, and hoping for a happy outcome...

[scrat]

put me on the list i will take two containers

[Walkalong]

Me too.

[blackcash88]

I use Militec exclusively. Both the oil/synthetic metal conditioner and the grease. Works great.

[ridata]

Put me on a list of people who will buy it.

[Mountie855]

Me Too

[ccarnel]

In like Flynn

[Guns and more]

Is this the greatest marketing ploy ever?
Zero advertising, and everybody wants some.




Me too.

[WinchesterAA]

Can we buy this stuff yet?

[bcp]

Semi-auto pistol = steel sliding fast on steel

Chain saw = steel sliding fast on steel

Chain saw bar oil?

[blackcash88]

Semi-auto pistol = steel sliding fast on steel

Nope, not always. My carry 1911 has a polymer frame with an aluminum sub-frame. Same with my P3AT. Lots of semi-autos out there with aluminum or alloy frames.

[Tim L]

Did I hear something about a group buy? I'm in for some and a buddy of mine wants twice as much as I get.

Tim

[GarandOwner]

I am also interested in this, when I saw the thread started in 07' I got excited and thought "by now its gotta be on the market!" Depending on how expensive "expensive" is, I wouldn't mind knowing where he gets it from and ordering from them. That would be providing of course if he doesn't decide to market it himself (I dont want to step on any toes) ;)

[1911Tuner]

Dave's thinkin' about it. So now we wait.

[craig]

if another customer will help him think, i'm in for some.:D

[Ben Shepherd]

So i went out to the range today, and ran the hell out of one of my AKs. Kept having to re-oil the rails.

It'd sure be nice to have some wonder-goo to test.:D

[echo5tango]

Is this it by chance?? Brownells FRICTION DEFENSE® GUN OIL (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=22319&title=FRICTION%20DEFENSE~%20GUN%20OIL)

[Tokugawa]

Yeah, ya'all kin buy it from me! I have carefully read the posts, and deciphered the secret! The secret ingredient (ninja assassin teams will shortly be dispatched to silence me but it will be too late) Is--- drum roll....Slug slime! Each giant banana slug will be packed in a sandwich bag and shipped directly to your door. Simply grab the naked snail and rub it vigorously over your firearms moving parts. Presto- you got the slickest gun in town! See me at the fair, I will be next to the guy selling the Acme slicer-dicers!

[Ben Shepherd]

Guys, it's out. You just have to go to his(Mr. Berryhills) website. Ordered mine last week, it got here yesterday. Haven't had time to use it yet.

[Walkalong]

I detail stripped and cleaned a new to me Dan Wesson (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=88862&d=1228698355) this weekend. I used the Berryhill stuff to lube it.

Very slick.

Stays put well.

"Cushiony"/"spongy" (read - soak up recoil and help the pistol shoot "soft")

Makes your fingers slick and you drop everything, even after repeatedly wiping them off. Not necassarily bad. Means it's good stuff.

Similar to Slide Glide, but different. More like thick oil than thin grease. I am looking forward to seeing how it does after a few range trips and wipe downs. So far after two short range trips, it is still smooth as silk.

[blueorb]

"Guys, it's out. You just have to go to his(Mr. Berryhills) website. Ordered mine last week, it got here yesterday. Haven't had time to use it yet."

Are we referring to Dave Berryhill here? I went to his website and do not see anything about this oil/lube? Where are you looking?

[jbauch357]

Are we referring to Dave Berryhill here? I went to his website and do not see anything about this oil/lube? Where are you looking?

look under parts, then there is a lube section. it's on backorder...

[Ben Shepherd]

It's only on backorder because he's out of the small plastic tubs that he sells it in. He's not out of actual product. Don't panic boys.

[d20111a]

Has anyone tried this long term on polymer?

[Dave Berryhill]

Yes, due to the big demand I just ran out of plastic jars. They should arrive in the next few days and I'll start filling back orders.

Thank you very much for your support!

[uberberzerker]

Mr. Berryhill,

I just ordered two containers of your product based on this great write up. I'm hoping you could post back here and let us all know if you received the jars so I don't have my head explode waiting on pins and needles:p:D

[Dave Berryhill]

Yes, I'm shipping out the back orders and will be caught up with all orders by today or tomorrow.

[jbauch357]

Got mine a little while ago and promptly threw it on 2 GLOCKs and my Saiga. So far so good, it makes the action on all three seem smoother - but who knows how much of that is plecebo.

I'm going to leave the first application on both GLOCKs for a few more range sessions, with the only cleaning in between being a couple runs down the barrel with a bore snake. Considering how long the stuff stayed on my fingers, I have a feeling it's going to have a lasting affect on the gun surfaces even after they have been wiped down.

The Saiga I haven't had a chance to shoot yet, but this lube on top of the polishing I did to the disconnector and hammer makes the action smoother than any other AK I've shot before.

Oh, and I considered ordering a couple more jars just for good measure - but liberally lubed three guns and only used a BB sized amount of lube for each. The jar I got should be good for a thousand cleanings at least... Still might order a couple more...

[BHPshooter]

This stuff is simply amazing. It stays where it's put, and is nearly odorless, but unlike most grease, which makes cleaning kinda sticky and messy, this stuff cleans up in a snap.

Before you apply it, degrease the gun thoroughly. The first application, I put it on a little heavier, and then (this is the important part) sit and play with the gun. You'll notice that the more you work this stuff in, the slicker everything works.

After the first application/cleaning, you only need a light film. I can't recommend this stuff enough.

The stuff is incredibly cheap, and you get enough in that little jar to last decades.

Two thumbs up!
Wes

[xmanpike]

Just bought and got mine. Very fast shipping which is always nice since I cant wait to try new stuff! I was surprised it was red. Dont know what color I expected it to be, but I guess red wasn't what i pictured. Put some on the rails, outside of barrell, and the barrell lugs. Where else are you guys applying this on your guns? Now I have to go shoot!

[jbauch357]

One word of caution with this stuff is to use it VERY lightly. A very thin film is all you need for proper lubrication - and any more than that is just going to attract grit, carbon and crud since the stuff is pretty thick and sticky...

[Ex-MA Hole]

Based on the reviews, I'm ordering some as we speak.

[Flynt]

From whom do you order it? I went to Mr. Berryhill's website, and there's no reference to Gun Goo. Thanks.

[cloudedice]

http://shop.berryhillguns.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=53

I searched for a lubricant that had the properties I wanted in a firearms lubricant and finally found it. Affectionately known as "Gun Goo," Ultimate Gun Lube is a very light grease that was developed for reciprocating and rotating parts. It is a petroleum-based lubricant that has:

- extreme pressure additives
- adhesive additives to help it cling to metal parts
- stringy texture draws the lube back to the contact surfaces

Ultimate Gun Lube is suitable for most climates except extreme cold. It will thicken slightly in cold temperatures.

[Walkalong]

This lube lives up to the hype. Very good stuff. It's my favorite by far now for lubing dismantled parts. I like it better than the Slide Glide I have.

[Dave Berryhill]

If you go to my website and click on the "Parts Store" tab, you'll be taken to my e-store where the lube and other 1911 parts are.

I'm glad to hear that everyone likes the lube. Thank you all for your support.

[Buck Snort]

Doesn't Bill Wilson also carry this product?

[Dave Berryhill]

I think Wilson has a product with a similar name but it isn't the same lube.

[conarth]

I absolutely love this stuff. I've been cleaning all my guns over the past few weeks and applying this to them all. Really makes actions and slides really smooth.

Really great product. A little is all it takes. I use medical Q-tips to apply it.

[proud2deviate]

I just got mine, and I'm fairly impressed. I loaded up a 6 CC syringe, and I've been slathering it on anything that slides or pivots. This stuff is great for folding knives! I've never felt my knives so slick and smooth. It stays put, too! I've also found that 90% isopropanol is good for taking it off stuff that you really didn't want it on.

[1911Tuner]

As an update, I used it on a new stainless Springfield GI Mil Spec that belongs to my nephew in-law. (Is there such a thing?)

The slide was a little rough when cycling, and knowing the tendency of stailess to gall...I slathered on a helping of Mystical, Magical, Marvelous slurry and elbow grease...followed by an application of Dave's Dee-lightful red goop...and had him go shoot it a couple hundred times.

Feels like buttah. Dave...If you could make that stuff smell like apple pie...

:)

[cloudedice]

I haven't tried it on my gun yet, but it worked great on my electric razor. :D

ETA: My assisted opening knife now assists in opening thanks to this stuff. The gun is next to get the treatment.

[searcher451]

Quote:
Feels like buttah. Dave...If you could make that stuff smell like apple pie...

Apple pie? I'd settle for it smelling exactly like, what else? ... Hoppe's No. 9. :)

[DHJenkins]

How about editing the first post so at the bottom it reads "Now available at ...".

I went through 8 pages before I found out it was available for sale!

[Deltaboy]

So where do we get this stuff ??????????????????

[doc2rn]

see post 204 and click on link in sig line or cut and paste this http://www.berryhillguns.com/
I got it to smooth out alot of pistols and rifles but only found it satisfactory on shotguns. That said it works better than any of the others out there!

[model of 1905]

I'm satisfied with my STOS gun lube. Works well on my Dan Wesson 1911s. I'm open to trying new products but I'm not sure this product would be an improvement.

[Geno]

I received my shipment of 4, 3-ounce jars today. :D I have fantasies of using this on all of my firearms! I'm all geeked up waiting to get to cleaning and lubing them up.

Geno

[Walkalong]

Doesn't Bill Wilson also carry this product? Something similar. I have both, and this Berryhill lube (http://shop.berryhillguns.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=53) is far better. I tried, and retired, the Wilson stuff years ago. I probably still have 90% of a tube around here somewhere, or I may have given it away. AC

I'm not sure this product would be an improvement. Try it, you might just say....wow, like most of us have.

[Geno]

Well, that sure slicked-up my Ruger Mark II! The bolt was never as-smooth-as I wanted. I can't say that now. :)

Geno

[Boris Barowski]

I received my shipment of 4, 3-ounce jars today. :D I have fantasies of using this on all of my firearms! I'm all geeked up waiting to get to cleaning and lubing them up.

Geno
What are you waiting for? Make a night of it :)

[miamiboy]

Just ordered mine. Can't wait:D

[Geno]

I slicked-up my Colt Combat Commander yesterday! I can't believe this stuff. I also cleaned and lubed-up 4 of my rifles. This stuff cannot be wiped-off! It's shockingly slick!

Geno

[WyoShooter1]

Well, I just found and read this thread and went to the Berryhill web site to order a jar of the miracle lube myself. The description said "Sold Out" and when I emailed Berryhill to ask when he'd have more in stock he said he wasn't planning on ordering or selling any more.

Anyone have any idea what the actual product is or where I could buy some?

Ed

[War Squirrel]

Dang... And I drew out the ol' dusty debit card. At only 4.99 too!? C'mon man, sell some more! You're sitting on a gold mine. :D

[dom1104]

wow I am glad I bought a bunch, I only got them about a week ago.

I had a funny feeling it was time to stock up.

I cannot BELIEVE that feeling came thru for me.

[jbauch357]

Initially I was singing the praises of this stuff but after extended use on my AR's, AK's, 10/22 and GLOCK's I have quit using it.

At first it's a great lube - it stays on well, only requires a thin film, and is extremely slick. Once you get a few hundred rounds down range though, and get the temps up on it the stuff starts getting really sticky and tacky - use it in something that has a lot of carbon crud flying around and it ends up more like a lacquer than anything. No, I wasn't using too much - after cleaning I lubed probably 50 guns with this stuff and never even used up the little bit that was stuck to the inside of the cap.

I talked a few guys at work into trying it too, after a few months of testing they found the same thing happening - and have also quit using it.

If somebody really wants to get their hands on a jar they can buy mine - PM if you're interested.

[WyoShooter1]

Initially I was singing the praises of this stuff but after extended use on my AR's, AK's, 10/22 and GLOCK's I have quit using it.

At first it's a great lube - it stays on well, only requires a thin film, and is extremely slick. Once you get a few hundred rounds down range though, and get the temps up on it the stuff starts getting really sticky and tacky - use it in something that has a lot of carbon crud flying around and it ends up more like a lacquer than anything. No, I wasn't using too much - after cleaning I lubed probably 50 guns with this stuff and never even used up the little bit that was stuck to the inside of the cap.

I talked a few guys at work into trying it too, after a few months of testing they found the same thing happening - and have also quit using it.

If somebody really wants to get their hands on a jar they can buy mine - PM if you're interested.
That's interesting. All I had seen in the previous 8 pages was nothing but praise for this lube. Maybe I won't feel so bad after all for missing the boat on this one.

Is there anyone else who has used this product and shot extensively and had the experience of the stuff getting tacky and crudded up?

I had emailed Berryhill and asked what the name of the product was that he was buying and repackaging, thinking that, since he had stated he was out of it and would no longer order and sell any more, I might be able to order some from another source to try for myself. He ignored that request. Maybe that was lucky for me.

Ed

[dom1104]

Initially I was singing the praises of this stuff but after extended use on my AR's, AK's, 10/22 and GLOCK's I have quit using it.

At first it's a great lube - it stays on well, only requires a thin film, and is extremely slick. Once you get a few hundred rounds down range though, and get the temps up on it the stuff starts getting really sticky and tacky - use it in something that has a lot of carbon crud flying around and it ends up more like a lacquer than anything. No, I wasn't using too much - after cleaning I lubed probably 50 guns with this stuff and never even used up the little bit that was stuck to the inside of the cap.

I talked a few guys at work into trying it too, after a few months of testing they found the same thing happening - and have also quit using it.

If somebody really wants to get their hands on a jar they can buy mine - PM if you're interested.

What kind of round count are we talking?

I have only a few hundred thru my CZs, however being cold out I have not "gotten the temps up".

[CoRoMo]

Maybe this stuff is just not cut out for high temperature work. Maybe Dave found that out and maybe that is why he's not going to put his company behind it anymore. I'd like to know.

[Balog]

It might still be useful for the internals where it would be shielded from heat and debris, I would think.

[jbauch357]

The place I noticed the gum up the most was on the bolt/carrier of my AR-15 and the bolt of my 10/22 - it took probably 500 rounds down the pipe to really mess things up for those. The AR is the most susceptible to heat/gunk issues by design, and .22lr is just a dirty round - that's why I'm attributing the downfall of the lube to heat and gunk. The hammer of my AK's is another place that this got really sticky, along with the bolt where it goes into the carrier...

I gave what I had left to another guy locally - hopefully he comes back after a while and lets us know how it's working. The other guys from work that I talked into using it and had the same experience aren't members here...

Anybody else put this stuff through the paces on multiple guns for an extended period of time that can give some feedback? Realistically if it's not available any more we may be wasting our time discussing it at all...