[model4006]

Im looking for a revolver that will shoot .22 mag, and .22lr. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I like to stick to smith and wesson when i can, if they make one. If a revolver shoots .22's will it shoot them all? like shorts along with wmr, and lr. preferably double action. Thanks guys.

[tnieto2004]

Ruger makes one .. i forget the exact model .. someone will know it im sure ..

[hexidismal]

I think you've got it a little off to begin with here. A gun chambered in ".22 magnum", is not to be used with .22 LR. Yes, it will chamber .22lr and even shorts, but the 22 mag cases are slightly bigger and longer.. and you will get split cases and other possibly dangerous issues with those chamberings. People do it, but it's one of those bad "bubba" moves that there seems to be a lot of bad information going around about.

[Avenger29]

The Ruger Single Six is what you are looking for. Single action revolver with two cylinders. One for .22LR (will probably shoot Short, too) and one for .22 WMR.

For a double action, you will probably want to pick up a double action .22LR revolver. You are not going to get both .22LR and .22WMR in a single double action revolver. Smith and Wesson made the K-22, which you will have to look for on the used market and a couple of others- but I know next to nothing about S&W...

[loumarch]

Check out the Heritage Rough Rider.

[tantrix]

I own both the Heritage Rough Rider and the Ruger Super Single Six in 6.5" barrels.

Heritage Rough Rider = $100-$139 new
Ruger Super Single Six = $300-$330 new

They both come with .22lr and .22WMR cylinders. The Heritage I have shoots quite well and I dispatch varmints around my property with it. The Ruger has a far better fit and finish but I can honestly say as far as accuracy goes I can shoot both of them the same, and I've gotten more than my moneys worth out of the Heritage.

[jad0110]

The Ruger Single Six is what you are looking for. Single action revolver with two cylinders. One for .22LR (will probably shoot Short, too) and one for .22 WMR.

For a double action, you will probably want to pick up a double action .22LR revolver. You are not going to get both .22LR and .22WMR in a single double action revolver. Smith and Wesson made the K-22, which you will have to look for on the used market and a couple of others- but I know next to nothing about S&W...

That pretty much covers it. Single Actions can be had with two different cylinders, one for Mag and one for LR. I think a lot of people assume a 22 Mag can also chamber 22 LR, kinda like 357 Mag and 38 Special.

If you want to shoot both, SA is the way to go. BTW, S&W doesn't make a SA 22 that I'm aware of. Both the Ruger Single Six and the Heritage Rough Rider have been mentioned. I owned the Heritage for a while, made a mistake in selling it. It was a great gun that was reliable and accurate (equal to a friend's Single Six). It can be purchased new for as little as $125 in some areas, whereas the Rugers run in the upper $200s/low 300s new. The Rugers are more nicely finished and will hold their value better than the Heritage. Both are great guns IMHO:

http://www.heritagemfg.com/site/

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAFamily?type=Revolver&subtype=Single%20Action&famlst=14

If you want a DA 22, you'll have to buy two guns or choose between LR and Mag. The DA 22LR is a great gun for inexpensive trigger control training. If you like S&W, they make their 10 shot 617 which is an excellent gun. They are expensive however. For less money, you can own a classic S&W: the K-22 / Model 18 Combat Masterpiece (4" barrel) or the K-22 / Model 17 Target Masterpiece (mainly 6", but some 8 3/8" and 4"). I am the proud owner of a Model 17-0. The K-22s (and pre-war Outdoorsman) are among the finer DA 22s ever created. Though not overly common, they can be found with patience. Prices vary widely, from $199 for a beater Model 17 on up (the 6" 17s are the most common, therefore they are usually a little cheaper). Mine set me back $430. Not a great deal, but reasonable given it's condition and the market for them.

Here's a pic of my beloved K-22:


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20K22%20Model%2017%2022%20LR/K22_12-1.jpg

[borrowedtime69]

another SA revolver that gets forgotten alot that shoots both LR & mag .22's is the Freedom Arms 252.

Heres a quote about the gun in a review done for the 1991 SHOT show

* Freedom Arms
Model 252 Silhouette & Varmint Models - .22LR, five-shot, single action, stainless steel with matte finish, 3-3/4 pounds. The Model 252 features a two-point firing pin which strikes the rimfire case head in two places, 180 degrees apart. The hammer has been lightened to speed lock time. It is built on the same frame as the 454 Casull. An extra cylinder in .22 WMR is available for the Varmint Class revolver Perhaps the best single action .22 made.


They originally sold for about $1,200, they gotta be more than that now.

Also i believe that Colt made some two cylinder .22 SA gun a long time ago too, but they gotta cost a bunch by now.

-Eric

[dbublitz]

Another vote for the Single-Six.

[enfield]

The Colts referred to are the New Frontier (adjustable sights) and the Peacemaker (fixed sights). They've been out of production for a long time, and they sell in the $500 range with both LR and Magnum cylinders.

[Confederate]

If it's a double action revolver you're after, make sure you check endshake. Lots of these little guns have a little too much play in them.

[22-rimfire]

The best single action choices are: Colt New Frontier or Peacemaker with both the 22LR and 22WMR cylinders. Ruger Single Six with both cylinders also. No revolver shoots both cartridges without some modification.

Smith made the Model 48 (K-22 Masterpiece Magnum Rimfire)(Just looked it up) years ago which sometimes included both a 22LR and 22WMR cylinder. A friend had one and we used to plink together. To my knowledge, it is the only double action revolver to provide both cylinders. Supica shows the 22 LR cylinder as an option. These are as uncommon as hen's teeth these days. Production ran from 1959 through 1986.

Not familiar with all the old models, but it is possible that High Standard, Charter Arms, Rossi, or H&R made revolvers with both sets of cylinders. As far as I'm concerned, Heritage revolvers fall into this sub-company catagory.

Comment: It is very likely that if you had a single action with both cylinders (22LR & 22WMR) that you would use one cylinder only anyway and more than likely it would be the 22LR. My suggestion is to buy two revolvers that are the same model such as the Colt Trooper Mark III in both 22LR and 22WMR. I have both. For just plinking, I would rarely shoot the 22WMR Trooper due to the cost of ammo. If I want to plink or shoot with something more substantial, I shoot a center fire. You could add a third revolver to the Trooper Mark III list and that is one in 357 mag; my favorite 357 for general shooting is my Trooper Mark III.

[MatthewVanitas]

If you must have .22WMR, the Ruger Single Six is your best option ($200 used, $350 new). If you want a smaller/compact 4" barrel single-action gun, there's the Ruger Bearcat (.22LR only), $325 new in stainless or blue.

If you want DA revo, you pretty much have to give up the .22WMR option. The main quality .22 revos that I'm familiar with are the S&W 34 and 63 (J frame, blued and stainless), running $325-450 used (out of production). The S&W 617 is the modern equivalent of the K22, and is still in production as a K-frame stainless .22LR revo in 6- or 10- shot variations.

Rossi, Charter, and Taurus also make DA .22LR revos, but of somewhat lower quality. Ruger used to make a .22LR DA SP-101, but those are hard to find.

Hope this helps, -MV

[bakert]

Some people seem to be quite happy with the Heritage revolvers and I considered one but finally bought this used Single Six which I'm very happy with. As noted above, the .22 Mag ammo although fun to shoot is just too expensive for my lean wallet except for a few occasionally. You might be better served with either a good single or double action in plain old .22 LR.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/brumanj/Picture298.jpg

[Billy403]

I bought a single six last month. It's a nice gun but if I had to do it over again I would probably go with the S&W Model 617 22lr revolver(10 round version) I guess I didn't do my homework enough.At the time I was making my buying decision I didn't know S&W made a .22 revolver despite visiting their website,I just didn't notice it on the site.
I like the S&W for it's DA...I would gladly give up the .22 mag option for DA.

[22-rimfire]

Billy, I totally agree with you. And if you later want a 22 WMR revolver, just go and buy one. The 22 WMR is just not that great in a revolver. You are better off with a rifle in that caliber which best utilizes the round.

[Samuel_Hoggson]

I see it the other way. I picked up a stainless SS convertible. I wanted a trainer for my son in .22LR. And I wanted something with a bit more whack for porkies and such when I'm on the tractor. As it turns out my SS likes .22 Mag ammo very much and shoots to the same POI as with minimags.

Moreover, I have zero need of double action in a .22 handgun.

Sam

[model4006]

i like the rough rider idea, can anyone point me to a place to buy one in that 100-130 dollar range?

[bakert]

Model4006, Don't know about other areas of the country but where I live in Louisville the Heritages run at least $30 to $40 or maybe just a bit higher than what I seen quoted here. Still pretty darn good prices though.

[borrowedtime69]

dbublitz
I cannot imagine coming home to my wife and trying to justify the need to pay over $1200.00 for a .22 calibre revolver. I may be the odd man out here, but if you have that kind of money for a .22 then we need to create a board for the "more money than I know what to do with crowd". The reason I enjoy this board is the fact that I enjoy conversing with other "blue-collar" hard working folks, therefore to mention a $1200.00 dollar .22 is just plain ignorant

Holy smokes! little sensitive on the money i see. i too am very blue collar, im in the lower income bracket myself. self employed . we scrape by month to month.. i only mentioned the freedom arms gun in the interest of naming guns that were built to fire both calibers. it was just meant as a point of freindly conversation, cant understand why your knickers are in a knot over this.

The next time you call someone ignorant, you really need to look in the mirror, your knee jerk, over reaction as a working class, long suffering, hero crap and misspent envy of wealthier people was not only unfreindly, but very rude. thankfully i take no offense at your post seeing as how i dont let others offend me unless i allow them to. your reaction gives me some clear insight as to what kind of a person you are both in your temperment and politically. if you take offense to that you must walk around all day every day mad at the world. relax some, dont take it so serious - Signed, Mr. "Ignorant.

PS. so, let me get this right... blue collar workers work really hard and are good people, white collar workers do not work hard, long hours and are lazy and living off the backs of the "poor" then. ok, thank you Karl Marx.

[CB900F]

Borrowed;

Gee, I was just gonna say that small minds have limited imaginations.

900F

[AJD]

I don't see why some people think you need to go cheap with a .22 caliber pistol.

So if the pistol doesn't shoot expensive ammo then its only worth putting $200 into the purchase?

If anything you can afford to spend the most on a .22 revolver because the ammo will be so cheap over the long haul that you can invest more in the gun.

I guess I don't look down on people because they worked hard in college and on the job and are reaping the benefits of that hard work by being paid well.

[greener]

I bought the Single Six because I wanted a SA revolver. Well-made, shoots .22lr and mags well. Loads of fun to shoot and at a price I was willing to pay. If I ever get in the mood for a DA .22 revolver, I'd give the smiths a hard look. I've looked at Rough Riders. They didn't feel as good as the Single Six (personal preference) and had fixed sights (my preference, especially with .22's is adjutable sights). If mood, meets price and opportunity, I'd have no problems buying either an S&W DA or a Rough Rider. Bet I'd enjoy the heck out of shooting either.

[TheotherMikeG]

I must have accidentally wandered onto the Daily Kos gun forum. Class envy, anyone? :uhoh:

As to the question at hand, I'm inexperienced with the Single Six, but its a very attractive package. Had I not just found a great condition S&W 17-3, I probably would have gone to fondle the Ruger.

[22-rimfire]

I don't know about you, but I am very envious of anyone who can afford to pay the price of some collector grade Colts and Smiths these days. Makes me want to work harder so I can play too!! :)

Most well made 22 revolvers are pricey. But, for the most part, you do get what you pay for. The Ruger Single Six or Bearcat are fine revolvers. Ruger filled a very important niche in the 1950's as they produced a 22 Colt clone revolver when Colt didn't make one and produced a very cost effective practical 22 semi-auto pistol that competed VERY well with Colt at that time. My hat is off to Bill Ruger!

[enfield]

Sometimes it's just timing. I bought my Peacemaker new for $80 (in 1972). :D

[jad0110]

I don't know about you, but I am very envious of anyone who can afford to pay the price of some collector grade Colts and Smiths these days. Makes me want to work harder so I can play too!!

That's why I always want money for my birthday, wedding anniversary, Chrismtas ... :D . My folks pay me to cut their grass in the summer, which pays for a good portion of my ammo. They figure if they're gonna pay someone, it might as well be me.

BTW, good deals on S&W K-22s can still be had. Probably not a 4 or 5 screw model, but a 17-3 or later can be had for $200 - $350 depending on condition.

[Rex B]

Just for the sake of completeness, I'll mention the H&R. I didn't even know they ever made revolvers until this week, when I bought one from a guy on this board. Mine is a 949, last made in 1981. This thing looks a lot like a Single Six, except it's more in the price range of a Heritage.
All-steel, blued.
9-shot
Double action.
Fixed sights.
the trigger is kinda funky, in that there's anormal trigger, then a second smaller trigger (actually the sear) that hangs down behind the trigger. When you pull the trigger, you rotate the culinder and move the hammer back, then the last little bit of travel pushes back on the sear and the hammer drops. Looks funky, but it works pretty smoothly.
Anyway, you can pick up decent examples of this one for around $100

I also have a Heritage 6.5" convertible, silver satin (which I don't care for) and grey laminated grips (which I like). It has nice big Millet sights. Handles well and shoots to POI. I bought this one (well)used, with a timing problem, but the price was right. All it took was a $8.00 hand and it's tight as a new Ruger. I'd buy another.

Also have a Single Six, bought LNIB for $200 a few months ago. A very nice gun. I have shot it at an indoor range, but it needs to be taken out plinking regularly. Everyone needs one of these in their collection, if only to fondle on occasion :evil:

So now I need a S&W 17, a NAA Masterwhatever....

[Tbu61]

I'm surprised that nobody has digressed to another platform yet.....

22WMR is really neat if you want a little extra steam...

Lets not forget the S&W #53 in .22 JET...

For the fella that wants some economy at the trigger, but still desires the ability to convert to some SPANK! (The JET came with .22LR inserts)

I heard of a person that spend a few extra dollars and had a cylinder converted and fitted for .22WMR capability in his #53. Talk about .22 versatility!

tbu

[____hoot____]

The nicest 22 revolver that has ever filled my hand was the old long-gone H&R 999 top-break 9 shot DA

[bconaway]

I recently purchased a Heritage .22 revolver from Robert Stutler, the former VP of Ruger. The weather hasn't cooperated with being able to go fire it yet, but if the Major says it's a good gun, I trust his opinion!:D

[woad_yurt]

Folks are saying "Single Six" but he said he'd like double action....

How about a convertible Double Nine? Nine rounds and double action:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee150/woad_yurt/doublenine02.jpg

This DA H&R 676 was about $200 or so and is one perfect tack driver:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee150/woad_yurt/HR67601-1.jpg

[PattonTime]

I want to second or third mention H&R I just bought one LNIB I think it was unfired
for $199.00 it is not the best revolver I own but not to bad . I bought it at the same
shop that just gave me my money back on a AMT Automag jamomatic 22WMR
I keep trying AMT because I am a sucker but they keep leting me down. Starting
with my AMT lightning in I believe 1984 which I hear now is a bit of a collecter piece.
Anyway my H& R looks nicely made and polished and blued very well and at $199.00
it is all I want to spend on a 22WMR handgun, because I am happy with 22LR.
As a reloader I can shoot 38 Special or 9mm cheaper than 22WMR.


Thanks and keep buying guns everyone. Lets keep stimulating the economy,
buy a gun a month if you can...

[10-Ring]

+1 Ruger Single Six -- versatility w/ the dual cylinders and lots of fun!

[SwampWolf]

I don't see why some people think you need to go cheap with a .22 caliber pistol.

So if the pistol doesn't shoot expensive ammo then its only worth putting $200 into the purchase?

My sentiments exactly! I will never understand why some people seem to believe that the size of the hole in the barrel should be commensurate with the cost (quality) of a firearm. Fine firearms are measured by stellar workmanship, great design and quality material-not by their caliber.

[spence]

does'nt anyone own a taurus mod.94 .22da/sa they sell for around $330 new buti would the opinion of someone who owns one spence.

[22-rimfire]

Spence, I don't own one. I've thought about buying one. That is as close as I have gotten so far to buying a Taurus M94. :)

The deal on the Taurus M94 is that they are an okay revolver. Many like them. The double action trigger pull is strong. Sometimes you get a dud from Taurus and you have to send it back for repairs. I've never had to send a handgun back to the factory for repairs, but I tend to buy mostly Colt's and Smiths. But it happens with them too. If you compare one to a typical Smith M617, the fit and finish won't be as good. Neither will the trigger. If you compare one to a Smith 317, you'll find the Smith trigger just slightly better, smoother and fairly stiff which is typical of the J-frame Smiths. I was impressed with the trigger on the Model 63 Smith (5") that I handled a while back. I would buy one of them in a minute when the time comes for another 22 revolver.

Honestly, I shoot most of my double action 22's largely single action anyway, so the trigger issue is less important to me. When I shoot it DA, I'm is usually in a plinking mode and hitting what I'm aiming at is less important. I would put some snap caps in it at the store (if they would allow it) and pull the trigger a couple cylinder revolutions just to check it out. Get the Taurus and shoot it. Let us know how you like it.

[rockhunter]

I posted this on another thread a couple days ago.

"I have two model 94 22LR revolvers both in SS a 4 inch that I have had for over a decade and that I liked so much when I got a chance to buy a 5 inch barrel model last year I didn't hesitate. Both revolvers have been reliable accurate trail guns that I carry on hikes and camping both seem to me to be equivalent to the S&W 22 Kit gun I had thirty five years ago. "

You can get excellent examples of the Taurus M94 new and used SS and Blued on GB at prices from about $250 to $350.

[spence]

I did break down and bought a S&W 18 4inch I like it a lot but you have give the ejector rod a fairly good push on something to eject the shells. is their a cure for that?

[CajunBass]

Here's another double action, convertable 22/22 magnum. Again it's a Harrington and Richardson, a model 650 in nickle. About $200.00 or so. Loads and unloads through a loading gate like a S/A, and you change the cylinder like a S/A.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/CajunBass/handguns/100_0013.jpg

I got it, then saw something else I liked better, and traded it off, but it's a decent little gun. The D/A trigger takes two men and a boy to pull, but in S/A it's not too bad.

Not made anymore, but I'm sure there are lots of them on the used market.

[frankiestoys]

Ruger or the Heritage both come with two cylinders, both are fine for target practice
Ruger hands down better quality.

[Drgong]

the rough riders I see are more in the 160-190 range, but still appear to be a good deal for a SA .22/.22 mag. I will prob pick one up and the new local gun shop that was started up by a friend of mine. This will be a "play" gun and not a "investment" gun.

[sheephearder]

My choice for a 22 revolver would be a Ruger single six if I thought that I wanted a 22 magnum. However in barrels less than 8 or 10 inches the magnum is not much better than a 22 hi speed LR. In just a LR the S&W 17 is a hands down favorite, have not shot a heritage but shoot with people who own them and they seam to work good for them. I started shooting a S&W K 22 when I was 10 years old so am biased. Good luck a 22 is for fun, not a status symbol and a good one will last several life times. Bill

[futuremodal]

I own a Taurus 94 blued with a 5" barrel. It's the only revolver I own so I can't give a comparative answer, but I have had no problems whatsoever with mine. I just ordered a Crimson Trace handgrip for it since my 40 something eyes no longer appreciate the fixed sights.

[rodensouth]

I have the 617, 8 inch, 10 rnd. I had the trigger smoothed after 1000 rds and I love it. I can actually stack the trigger and group better than with SA. Follow ups are very quick, can keep a golfball dancing against the dirt pile better than I can with my Buckmark. So, I can see some reason to want a NICE DA. It groups so well with me shooting the irons that I would really like to put a micro aimpoint on it. I have 686 in 6 inch so it made good sense for practice.

[frankiestoys]

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[Andrewski]

"No revolver shoots both cartridges without some modification."

No revolver will shoot both safely, out of the same cylinder. Period.

[Andrewski]

"However in barrels less than 8 or 10 inches the magnum is not much better than a 22 hi speed LR."

This is an old saw that is no longer true. CCI Maximags and the Hornady ballistic tip .22 magnums both offer from 100 to 400fps advantage over .22LR - out of a 1 5/8th inch barrel!

Out of a longer barrel the gap just widens.

At one time, in the not so distant past, you would have been correct. Now you are not.

[Mike J]

I can't compare either as I only have the Heritage Rough Rider. I bought it because at the time we were having snake problems I wanted something cheap to run snake shot through. I gave about 139 for it with just the .22lr cylinder if memory serves correctly. Then I went to their website & realized I could add the WMR cylinder for another 25 or 30 dollars. This was around 2 years ago. I have had no problems with the gun it is accurate enough to be fun plinking with. As someone else said though .22 WMR is much more expensive. I shoot a few from time to time but still haven't used up the whole box I bought shortly after getting the second cylinder.
Those H & R guns look really cool. Make me wanna play but I have a feeling it's going to be a while before I can contemplate buying any more guns.
One other thing about the Heritage it is the only single action revolver I have ever seen with a safety (has to be a lawyer thing) but for what I use it for it doesn't really get in the way. Also I don't have a link but if you google Heritage Arms they do have a website complete with dealer locator.
Looked in the box my Rough Rider came in if anyone is interested www.heritagemfg.com

[oldfool]

I have a nice old High Standard Double-Nine (similar look/feel to Ruger Single-Six, but DA 9 shot)
caveat - steel frame models only, and only use both cylinders if they came original with gun
fun, but don't use the mag cylinder anymore, preferred solution being a "pair"

six inch K-17
six inch k-frame 648
:):)

[MCgunner]

I have a friend who's just bonkers over HS double nines, collects 'em. He has a half dozen or so, anyway. I'm not sure why he likes 'em that much. I mean, for me, one would do. LOL

[Ratshooter]

Here is a nice Taurus 94 that just went on sale at GB. I know the guy selling it. It is a great shooter, he even used it to shoot the flames off of candles at 15 yards once just to prove he could do it. He bought a S&W model 34 and no longer shoots this gun.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=137379779

Even though the OP specified a double action I have to go with every one else about the Ruger SS convertable. I have owned 5 of them and every one of them have been excelent guns. Plus they all liked the 22 mag rounds. The 22mag seems like a real step up in power from a 22lr. Then again maybe its just the blast. They are LOUD.