Not Rocket Science, but...

[Famine]

...I just weighed my .45 mags. 230 grain mag weighs 350 grams and 165 grain weighs 300 grams.

Has this weight difference made anyone carry a lighter grain bullet for a CCW so it's doesn't weigh on your belt as much? Just curious.

[earplug]

I used to carry a Charter Arms, .44 spl.
Now I carry A 642 or other light weight J Frame.

[RevolvingCylinder]

You can actually notice a 50 or so gram difference?:what:

[Famine]

I noticed the second I picked up the loaded gun.

[MICHAEL T]

You need to get out more often :D

[OpFlash]

Thats actually a fairly significant difference. If I remember from my high school days (ahem), 28 grams make an ounce. So this is almost two ounces. In a light weight polymer gun it would definitely be noticeable, though much less so in a full sized steel doublestack like a CZ75 or Witness.

What really is worthy of note is how much the loaded mag weighs sometimes compared to the unloaded pistol. My 10rd 45ACP Millenium Pro was 22 ounces unloaded. 350 grams is 12 ounces, over half the weight of the pistol itself.

[1911 guy]

I've never thought of ammo (in a CCW situation) as a limiting factor. I carry 230gr HydraShock, switched from 185gr +p when they became unavailable in my area. The pistol chews up the Fed. H.S. just fine, so it really doesn't matter.

Carrying a 5" 1911, ammo is a minor issue as far as weight. If I was worried about it, I'd switch handguns before I started thinking of ammo weight.

[Mandirigma]

NO. Matter of fact by how heavy your mags are I'd be carrying an extra 700grams on me.

Couple of tenants I subscribe to: Its better to have something and not need it than need something and not have it. (this is why I carry at all.) and When you're going to need your gun you're REALLY REALLY going to need it.



I noticed the second I picked up the loaded gun.

I personally don't have that much attention to detail, to the weight, to notice 50 grams. However it did feel like I was carry a brick around when I switched from my G33 subcompact to my 1911 all steel full sized. I think that lasted all of two weeks than I stopped noticing it again.

[Famine]

You carry 14 mags?:confused:

[UglyGlock]

I'm carrying an extra 10 kilos around my middle. i'd better get rid of them first, and then i'll worry about 50 grams of ammo.

:)

[modifiedbrowning]

350 + 350 = 700, no?:confused:

[Mandirigma]

You carry 14 mags?

No, I carry three mags with my 1911, one in the gun and two reloads. When I carry my Glock 33 I carry two. the 9 rounder mag for the G33 in the gun and a 15 rounder mag for a G31. Somehow with one in the pipe this works out to 25 rounds.

In my console in either vehicle I have two 1911 mags and a G31 Mag that are in outside pockets of a medkit, these stay there no matter what gun I'm carrying.

For me I figure that 25 rounds should get me to my vehicle no matter what the situation. Single/multiple targets(s), blowing off rounds to make the BG's run away, duck for cover or to cover my egress.

[Famine]

RE: 700 grams, at first I thought you meant that what you carry was the difference between the two mags, and extra 50 grams per mag, equalling 14 mags. Just a joke, not to worry.

So 3 mags, eh? I don't have my CCW yet, but once I do, I don't think I'll carry more than 1 on me. I'll have more in the car or house, but probably not on me. If I can't get to my car or house within 13 shots, I'm in big trouble anyway.

[rockstar.esq]

So I had to convert all that to Ounces to figure out what the heck you were getting at! So I'm figuring 12 oz or 3/4 lbs give or take. That weighs less than one of my boots, or the combination of my keys, wallet, phone, and flashlight, or an average heavyweight shirt. All in all I consider that no big deal. Of course I pack a Sig P220 w/ 8 rnd mag for CCW daily.

[Mandirigma]

No worries :)- Get a quality gunbelt and holster and you will hardly notice that the gun is on your belt.

A lot of people carry with just one mag+1 in the pipe. I work in a slightly higher risk industry. I leave with cash and in the company of pretty women every morning.

I've had fights and shootings in my parking lot during and after business hours. When things go down its usually 2 groups of 3-6 people and usually multiple vehicles on either "side". And it only gets worse if it involves gangs. This is in three different locations in the city.

There have yet to be any robberies, but I believe thats just a matter of time. If you only knew how much cash ran through the registers every night you think the same. On a "slow" night there is 7-8000 in cash, on a busy night it could be around 15-20,000.

I tend to think in terms of multiple targets, meaning 3+. My best case scenario tends to look like most others worst case scenario. I also give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are at least as smart and trained as I am. I am a decent shot. I also know that as stress and adrenaline start pumping into my system my accuracy decreases to where I'm only an average shot. I try to factor in for this.

My MO is either get inside the business and wait for the cops (10-45min) or get to my vehicle and getting the heck out of dodge. All I want is to get me and mine out and away. I don't go looking for trouble, but the industry I'm in attracts a "bad" element to it.

But I plan for the worst and hope for the best. I am a realist. Bad things happen. Sooner or later it'll happen to me. I carry 25 rounds, two fixed blades, an inova x2, as well as a few more tools that can be turned into improvised weapons or control devices. These are all just tools, the weapon is the grey matter between your ears.

If I had 13 round mags for a Glock 21 I'd end up only carrying one reload. But since I carry a 1911 the mags are 8 rounders.

When I worked a 9-5 "normal" job I only carried my primary and had a reload in the car and I could never foresee being in a situation where that wouldn't be enough. I got bored and switched back to the industry I'm in currently.

[rockstar.esq]

Totally off topic but the title of the thread reminds me of a funny joke.

So if a given task "isn't rocket science", what do you think rocket scientists say?

"Well it's not like talking to women..."