Feather Rav-9mm: Any reviews, thoughts?


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braindead0
June 2, 2003, 10:00 AM
I'm still in the market for a pistol caliber carbine, just can't seem to make up my mind about anything.

The feather rav-9mm (http://www.featherusa.com/page3.html) seems like it has the features I need, most importantly adjustable stock (at least the .22 in their video was) so that both my wife and I can shoot (need a good 3" adjustment) comfortably.

Anybody ever shot one?

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22x9
June 2, 2003, 11:21 PM
I own one and it is my favorite. Everyone who shoots it wants to buy it off of me. It is not as cheap as some of the other 9mm carbines, because it screams "Accessorize me."

The stock really only adjusts about an inch maybe two max. If you want a fully collaspable stock, look for a AT-9. Its the exact carbine except for the stock. All RAV-9MM parts, expect the stock, should work fine.

The recoil is next to nothing, especially with the replacement recoil springs. I've suggested it to several people. IF you can get a "used" or "scuffed" one for a discounted price, I would recommend it. I got mine at a discounted price(either $299 or $399), definitely worth price.

WhoKnowsWho
June 3, 2003, 02:24 AM
I think they look pretty neat. Never seen one in person though.

And that is my 0.12% of two cents...

USGuns
June 5, 2003, 06:56 PM
Seems like a neat little carbine. And they have a ton of accessories for it:
Rav-9MM: http://www.featherusa.com/page3.html
Accessories: http://www.featherusa.com/page6.html
(The website isn't very good)

22x9, what is the quality like?

You sure don't hear much about them and I hunted high and low on the net for a review of it but couldn't find one...

What about customer service, are they any good?
How long have they been around?
Anybody know ANYTHING else about these guys? :confused:

Redlg155
June 5, 2003, 07:42 PM
OK...Perhaps I'm missing something here, but how do they get around the 94 crime bill phrohibiting folding/collapsible stocks on post ban weapons?

Surely all their rifles aren't pre ban.

Good Shooting
Red

braindead0
June 5, 2003, 09:22 PM
I think because the stock only 'collapses' about 1", it's an adjustable stock. It looks to me like it could be ...uh fixed to be a bit more adjustable.

That's one of the best features on this carbine, as my wife is rather short..and I'm rather tall.

The only negative thing I've found on the pre-ban was that "the trigger felt kinda mushy". That'd be a deal breaker for me, as I'd want to use it in 3-gun matches..and mushy trigger no good.

Onslaught
June 6, 2003, 08:54 AM
On the plus side, I have seen verified pre-ban AT-9's going for $650 - $700 on Gunbroker and other places...

Pre-ban AT-9's have a metal trigger housing, the new RAV-9's are plastic. Personally, I'd probably prefer the plastic for a piece that gets that little abuse.

I wanted one, but being left-handed is a minus without any kind of brass deflector on it.

braindead0
June 6, 2003, 08:58 AM
Sounds like the Beretta CX4 would be perfect for ya, I'm considering that as a fall back position... ;-)

The new ones are going for $550 retail out here, and I know on orders of 2 or more the dealer price is $479.... ;-)

22x9
June 6, 2003, 08:07 PM
The quality is nice. There's no fancy engravings, polished wood or anything of the like. Just a tube of aluminium, bolt, trigger group, springs and barrel. I like it a lot, no only because of how it shoots but also for how easily it assembles and disassembles.

As to the legalities of the "collasping" stock. In the RAV-9MM {post-ban version of the AT-9}, you can not collaspe the wire stock directly along the tube. You have to remove the stock and store it from the front. This basically makes the butt of the stock become a fore-end pistol-like grip. Since the stock isn't collaspible it is legal, bada-boom-bada-bing you have the RAV-9MM.. You can not purchase the pre-ban wire stock unless you have a AT-9 or AT-22.

I'm not going to ponder on how to make the stock more collaspible. It is possible, but I ain't doing it.

The trigger housing on mine is metal.

Their customer service is excellent. Haven't had any problem with them. Nice people.

AWI/Feather USA has been around since at least 97/98. Prior to that Feather USA was its own company. around 94-96 Feather USA went belly up for what I can tell and all intellectual property and physical property be were purchased by AWI and the current company was formed(AWI/Feather USA).
[Thats what I can remember from when I was looking into them. Take it with a grain of salt, cause my memory is slipping these days.]

Any other questions?

Oh yeh. You can watch the video thats on their website.

Onslaught
June 6, 2003, 09:42 PM
Yep... the "video" on their site is of the RAV-22, but WAAAY cool to watch. Looks like fun indeed.

As for legality of the stock, the telescoping stock on my pre-ban AR-15 doesn't collapse all the way in either, but if I attach this same stock on a post-ban AR, bada-boom-bada-bing, I'm a felon :D

I'm certainly not making fun of YOU, I'm making fun of the "law". The AR stock goes from 10.5" to 13", but it's illegal. The RAV-9 states that it is "adjustable" from 12" to 14", but it's legal... Go figger.

I like the CX4 Storm enough that I actually ordered 2 pre-ban "noname" mags for it, but I've since decided that the 9mm AR-15 is worth the extra $250 over a Beretta... So I'm donating my mags to Red so he'll absolutely HAVE to buy a 92F :neener:

But I would think it would be perfect for you, since the LOP is QUITE adjustable with spacers, and legal as heck... plus it's cheaper than the RAV-9.

I'd love to have a RAV-40, which doesn't exist, but has been listed as "coming soon" on their website for at least 2 years. :)

I think a CX4 in 10mm would be a MUST HAVE too ;)

braindead0
June 6, 2003, 10:09 PM
But I would think it would be perfect for you, since the LOP is QUITE adjustable with spacers, and legal as heck... plus it's cheaper than the RAV-9.

I don't think that's the case, there's a local place that'll retail the Rav-9 for $549, I suspect the CX4 will be a bit more.

One of the things I don't like about the Rav-9 is the one year warranty, currently every firearm I own (except the Makarov) has a lifetime warranty.. Haven't had to use any, but I like that.

Will the company even be around in a year? With their marketing plan (or lack thereof), I doubt they will make much headway. If I was them I'd donate a dozen of them to the nations (well, probably not PRK) biggest firing ranges for loaner guns. Send demos to all the magazine, etc... do something.

betobeto
March 21, 2008, 03:35 PM
bump....:D

Appaloosa
March 21, 2008, 06:04 PM
Do yourself a huge favor and get a vector uzi for the same price.

I have owned one of these piles of garbage, and I would not wish it on my worst enemy. They are an extremely poor design. Parts will break on you alot.

When I first got mine it wouldnt shoot 3 rounds in a row without jamming. I sent it back to the factory. They sent it back after they said they fixed it. Yet it still wouldn't cycle no matter what ammo I used. I also tried several of their modified uzi mags. To make matters worse the materials they use are such crap my sear busted not long after getting it back.

I sent it back a second time they fixed it. I just took it to a gun show and traded it for a SS springfield 1911.

Please for the love of all that is holy don't get one. Find someone who has one and go shooting with him you will see for yourself what a pile these things are. Just by pulling the trigger you will be able to tell how poor quality these guns are.

Mine was not a lemon. A co worker of mine has had one for a couple years now, and has had all the same problems.

They prey on people with their uber cool tactical look, but don't be fooled, I have seen plastic chinese toy dart guns that were more reliable than these things.

Get a combat proven design. You could even probably get a Oly 9mm carbine for the same price as a RAV9.

CBS220
March 21, 2008, 07:14 PM
That's one helluva necropost! Five years old!

Owen
March 21, 2008, 07:58 PM
they are quite fun. never owned one, but every now and then someone would show up at the range with one.

kingjoey
March 22, 2008, 03:20 AM
That's one helluva necropost! Five years old!

Ah, I was wondering why they were yammering about the AWB, I guess I should have checked the date :banghead:

chief98
May 17, 2008, 02:07 PM
I have owned a Feather Rav-22 for about a year now and I have to agree with Appaloosa 100% on this. I have experienced all the same problems with FTF and FTE with it that you will find posted on several sites. I have tried several different brands of ammo, replaced parts, and tried different mags; all to no avail. I would like to sell it, but I do not want to stick anyone with it. I am now looking at the GSG-5 for a plinker. It has been getting very good reviews overall.

the enforcer
November 16, 2008, 10:53 AM
Wow I just sent in a deposit on a At22 it seems some say they are ok and some not I need some current info recntly say the last month or so , Some say they are not even in business?, Man I have to move fast to stop the Deal if things are as bad as I'm hearing?

Owen
November 16, 2008, 11:33 AM
do you have any evidence that they aren't in business anymore? The last gun show had a guy with a big display. He was sold out and was taking pre-orders.

the enforcer
November 16, 2008, 11:52 AM
No all info i have they are i just placed an order but some are saying they are not I just dont want to get taken?and I would like to know that Im making a worthwile and sensible investment here? info im seeing its 50/50

the enforcer
November 16, 2008, 01:29 PM
Anyone else have any helpful Info?

jonnyc
November 16, 2008, 03:28 PM
Hmmm...get a Beretta Storm or a Hi-Point 995.

12131
November 16, 2008, 09:46 PM
POS. Yes, I did own it, unfortunately. Mall ninja tacticool crapola.

gus16146
February 28, 2009, 11:50 AM
www.guns-rifles-firearms.com

goldie
February 28, 2009, 12:29 PM
i have a feather enterprises at-22 i bought in 1994,it has been totaly reliable with every kind of ammo, had maybe 1 or 2 ftf in 14 years.real neat gun. i think they stopped making it in the late 90's,& then the company later re appeared as feather industries. i dont know if changes were made from the older ones,but i paid 250 for mine & its been accurate & reliable, + lots of fun to shoot.with the telescoping stock, it makes a nice survival 22 & stores in a small case.removing the barrel makes it even more compact...

Killermonkey21
February 28, 2009, 02:32 PM
Oooooohhh....a 10mm carbine? I like the sound of that...perhaps I should look into reloading for the 10mm now...seriously, that sounds like a good idea...*lost in thought*

galilgunner
February 28, 2009, 06:43 PM
I had an AT9 in 1993. It was suprisingly accurate. I never had any problems with it. I sold it to fund a bushmaster car-15 prior to the 1994 ban. My friend always liked it and would not sell it back to me. He kept it until his exwife decided to keep it for herself a few years ago. It was not in the same class as an IMI UZI but I think it was still a pretty good gun.

Gator88
May 12, 2009, 11:51 PM
I bought an AT9 pre-ban new.. and liked it from the beginning. It shoots better with factory ammo. It's reliable after breaking-in, and accurate, even with iron sights. I put an Aimpoint on it, and the modified Uzi mags feed well. I've watched over the years as Feather has had its ups and downs, and glad it's still around. I checked out their website just now, and they have really tricked these up. I see my carbine in the backpacker version. At one time they sold a law enforcement version, with a teflon tube and stronger materials. It definitely makes an impression at the range.. but nowadays, I think I should have gotten an AT22 as well! This is a great forum - enjoyed the comments so much I joined..

Maverick223
May 13, 2009, 12:06 AM
Welcome Gator...unfortunately I know nothing about the gun...so I shall go now. :D

galilgunner
May 13, 2009, 12:45 AM
I had an AT-9 in the early nineties I sold it to fund another gun. I liked it. It was more accurate than I expected. It is not built like an IMI UZI or anything but it was a fun gun while I had it. I had no malfunctions that I remember.

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