Which .22LR rifle for target shooting?


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Juna
January 30, 2007, 09:19 AM
Which one & why? I want an accurate, reliable .22LR for plinking/target shooting.

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orionengnr
January 30, 2007, 09:37 AM
I want a Ruger Target Bull barrel laminated stock with nice glass, but...who am I kidding?

I haven't been to a rifle range in over a year, and I need to spend $400 (before glass) on a .22 like I need another hole in my head (poor choice of words?).

Had a Model 60 years ago, they used to be commom and cheap. If I find one cheap (~$100), maybe I can rationalize that purchase. :)

anderst
January 30, 2007, 09:38 AM
Excellent out of the box

DMK
January 30, 2007, 09:56 AM
I have both a CZ 452 and a Marlin Model 60.

The Marlin 60 is a great little rifle for plinking, but it's no target rifle. The CZ is way more accurate out of the box. The Marlin is a pain to clean too.

I love the CZ 452 BTW. It's a very nice rifle with beautiful fit and finish.

I suspect you'll get a lot of votes for the 60 though because it's cheap, reliable, common and probably half of us here have one (the other half have a 10/22 ;) ).

eden892
January 30, 2007, 10:48 AM
I would have to vote ruger 10/22 because of the large amount of custom items made for it although I have owned several marlin model 60's which are great rifles.

db_tanker
January 30, 2007, 11:36 AM
Volquartsen can make a 10/22 into a sweet piece. :)


I plan on getting a trigger group for mine as a first step.


D

BrainOnSigs
January 30, 2007, 11:39 AM
How serious do you want to get (translation = how much do you want to spend?)

If cash is no object....a Cooper M57-BR.

For a bargain with very good out of the box accuracy the CZ 452 (or 453 with the set trigger) is a great choice.

My CZ 452 Varmint:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL875/3165911/8282895/132645515.jpg

10 rounds at 50 yards with slight breeze on a 90+ degree day. Using Eley Ultimate Tenex EPS ammo. BY MY 8 YEAR OLD!!
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL875/3165911/8282895/119281553.jpg

jerkface11
January 30, 2007, 11:45 AM
Having shot all 3 i'd say only one of the choices is good enough to be a target rifle. The CZ452 or 453. Marlin 60's are nice reliable guns but not accurate. Ruger 10/22's are ummm .22's and that's about all that can be said for them.

DonP
January 30, 2007, 12:39 PM
Unless you are planning on getting into competitive shooting at the national level, a nice Model 60, with a .22 Mag scope will cost around $150 or less.

The difference in price from the other guns will probably buy you enough ammo to let you shoot pretty much for the rest of your life and get really, really good with it.

loxety
January 30, 2007, 12:42 PM
Remington 597 works great! ~$150 new

GardDog223
January 30, 2007, 12:49 PM
I have both a Ruger 10/22 and a CZ-452 Scout. I have taken the 10/22 through it's progression to a custom target rifle and am pleased with what it can now do. I bought the CZ as my son's first rifle after a dealer friend of mine talked me out of wasting my money on a Cricket. I enjoyed shooting the CZ as much (or more) than my son did. I could not believe how well built and accurate out of the box it was. I mounted a red dot on it and my 8 year old ran through an Auto-reset target at 35 yards after little instruction. The Scout really changed my views of CZ rifles.
If you want to build a personally "customized" rifle, the Ruger is money well spent. You can modify it as much or as little as you want / can afford.

JBP
January 30, 2007, 01:50 PM
For modern out of the box I'd go with a 10/22T. I have mine over 10 years now. Put a rebuilt Tasco Pro scope on it and haven't adjusted it since.

For bolt action you really can't beat the Mossburg trainers 44US models or the newer 144LSB.

hksw
January 30, 2007, 01:55 PM
Out of the box, CZ 452/453. (The triggers could use some tweaking, though.)

Modded, 10/22.

clarkford
January 30, 2007, 01:57 PM
For $100 you can get a Savage Mark II .22LR at Wally World. Can get a 3" group at 100 yards if you rest your elbows on your knees.

ajax
January 30, 2007, 02:04 PM
If you would prefer not to spend much money go with the Mod. 60. Also I would like to strongly disagree about the Model 60's accuracey. The Ruger is nice if you think you might want to modify something to death down the road. Even though I don't own one I will say that there is a inherent accuracey you get with bolt action rifles that you may or may not get with semi auto's regardless of manufacture. That my 2cents free of charge.:)

wild billz
January 30, 2007, 07:19 PM
I got a mod 60 and a CZ 452 Special. Its nice to have a semi-auto for wasting blammo, that is still pretty reliable and accurate and a nice bolt gun.

R.W.Dale
January 30, 2007, 07:24 PM
NOWDAYS If not spending $800 and accuracy are two primary critera it's borderline asinine to buy ANYTHING other than a CZ rimfire





10/22 and target, HECK Ruger and target really shouldn't be used in the same sentence unless the word terrible is used in that same sentence.

The 60 is nice and can be surprisingly accurate. BUT I have yet to run across out of the dozen I've previously owned. an older 60 that did not have some form of functionality issue.

BTW I've shot every "TARGET" rimfire ruger makes.

_N4Z_
January 30, 2007, 07:27 PM
Scoped Marlin 925. Rifle alone will set you back around 150 bucks.

Sub quarter size groups at 50 yards with bulk Federal 510 ammo. I imagine with fancy stuff it would be better.

Knocks shotgun shells off the backstop at 100 yards.

Can push a golfball from 20 yards out to 100. *golfball racing*

Can ring an 11" steel gong at 200 yards. ...Gotta aim high to do this though. :p


Oh, and very easy to clean and maintain. Very reliable.

Fosbery
January 30, 2007, 07:43 PM
Ruger 10/22. It may not be a target rifle out of the box, but it will be once you've given it the love and $$$ that it deserves :D

Drue
January 30, 2007, 07:52 PM
All of the rifles that you mentioned are fine plinkers. Unless you want to spend a lot of money on a 10/22, the CZ would be better for target shooting.

Drue

stoky
January 30, 2007, 07:52 PM
For low bucks and lots of class find and old Winchester Model 75.
If your well healed get a Winchester 52.
If you recently hit the lotto, get an Anschutz.

Geno
January 30, 2007, 07:55 PM
T/C Contender pistol holds the world record at 500 yards. No matter how much you spend, store-bought or custom, I assure you, you shall not find more accurate than the World Champion...T/C Contender.

Why spend more for second best?

Thanks for the redirect, Krochus. The T/C Contender carbine also are available in .22LR MATCH. All T/Cs are guaranteed to shoot 1 MOA at 100 yards.

Doc2005

R.W.Dale
January 30, 2007, 08:01 PM
T/C Contender pistol holds the world record at 500 yards. No matter how much you spend, store-bought or custom, I assure you, you shall not find more accurate than the World Champion...T/C Contender.

Why spend more for second best?

Funny I thought this thread was about rifles:what:

Lobotomy Boy
January 30, 2007, 08:05 PM
I almost voted for the 10/22 because I've been a fan of the gun since Nixon's first term in office, but then I remembered shooting the CZ my buddy bought for his son. What a nice gun! I need another .22 about a much as I need another 9mm handgun, but I really wanted one of those.

Selfdfenz
January 30, 2007, 08:52 PM
I need another .22 about a much as I need another 9mm handgun, but I really wanted one of those.

Been there, done that.
Not too long ago I started to worry that I might have a problem where rimfires are concerned. Thanks to a couple of resources I located on the I-net that helped me look at the issue from a different perspective I now realize I'm fine.

As it tuned out the problem was I didn't have enough money, time or closet space.

Best
S-

byf43
January 30, 2007, 08:54 PM
Remington 541-T.
Extremely accurate. This is the 'sporter' weight 541-T that replaced the 541-S in the late '80s.

Easily the best .22 lr (rifle) that I will ever own (and NEVER sell).

DMK
January 31, 2007, 02:51 PM
As it tuned out the problem was I didn't have enough money, time or closet space. LOL! I have that problem too. :)

mp510
January 31, 2007, 04:44 PM
Go with the CZ 452. They're very accurate, high quality and very reliable. Pretty durable too. Not a semi auto, but you'll really enjoy it.

Juna
January 31, 2007, 05:11 PM
Is the CZ 452 Trainer full sized or kid sized? What's a good price for one? Does it have good iron sights?

45Guy
January 31, 2007, 05:40 PM
I have a Marlin Model 60, and it is an extremely accurate rifle. I can outshoot my cousins Savage MkII with ease. My only complaint is if you disassemble it fully the recoil spring is a beach to get back in. Ive bent 3 so far and I've fully took it apart 3 times. It needs to be shorter

Selfdfenz
January 31, 2007, 06:20 PM
Juna
The Trainer is full size, the Scout smaller. I have both but the Scout is not too small to be a good woodlot plinker. The Trainer have better sights and a longer barrels than the Scout, both have decent triggers, and both are a cut above the 513.

Best

S-

evil_brother
January 31, 2007, 06:25 PM
For target shooting, I think the best ive ever shot was the Marlin .17. I cant remember the name, but it it dead nuts accurate and just as good to shoot if not better than a 22 IMO.

hans1911
January 31, 2007, 11:35 PM
Get a CZ. I have 3, and one Russian target rifle. I sold my other rimfires. As Jeff Cooper said, "only accurate rifles are interesting". (or was it Teddy Roosevelt???) Here is a 25yd target with my CZ Super 2500 (same as an Ultralux), iron sights, 5 shots with cheap ammo on a very cold day.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r222/hans1911/superfed.jpg

Here is a 50yd target with 10 rounds of cheap ammo on the same cold day. This is from my CZ 513, which doesn't have the adjustable trigger.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r222/hans1911/513rem.jpg

The CZ 513 Basic model can be had for $200 or less, depending on where you look. I have built a few "ultimate" 10/22's over the years, and none could compare with even the cheapest CZ in accuracy, and the trigger is better than a 10/22, or a Remington 597 out of the box.

hans1911
(formerly GHILLIE)

rangerruck
January 31, 2007, 11:57 PM
the cz will be the most accurate in this group, plus the most beautiful. A real lifetime gun. next will be the marlin, and it may be the equal of the cz, you never know until you shoot it. but you can get those 50 to 100 dollars at most pawnshops. i would look for one made between '85 and '88, these will not only have the bolt hold open feature, but will alos still have the 17 round feed tube, the tube goes almost all the way to the end of the bbl. Ones made after '88 have 14 round tubes. I have a ruger, and they are great and fun , and all that, but they almost never are accurate or reliable out of the box. you have to spend about 50 bucks for a few mods to get it reliable a parts kit, then a 40 to 50 dollar trigger job, to help with the accuracy.

rugerdude
February 1, 2007, 12:10 AM
N4Z, you and I are on the same page! MARLIN 925!

I just free-floated my barrel today and graphite lubed the trigger. I don't know what they put into the trigger group at the factory*, but it certainly does a good job of disguising that excellent trigger! I've shot the thing for a year, and today it feels like a new gun. It looks like one too now that I took the sights off. Last time I grouped it at 25 yards, the group was smaller than my pinky is wide. Easily a .25" group with bulk federal ammo, I was impressed.

An honorable mention goes to the savage MKII, afriend of mine has one and while it has some reliability issues (it's being fixed by savage) it was a good shooter, and at a very low price!

(There was some gooey stuff in my trigger group, maybe it was lubricant or something, but I took it out with a Q-tip and put some fine graphite in there and I now have a light and CRISP trigger! I know some people don't like the marlin 925 trigger, and that gunk must be why)

rugerdude
February 1, 2007, 12:12 AM
Oh yeah, the ruger is a great fun gun and I love mine to death, but not a target shooter in the least.

AH-1
February 1, 2007, 12:44 AM
I voted for the CZ.if your search around and find a BRNO mod 1 thru 5 buy it!!.they are a step ahead of the CZ rifles.
pete
my brno#1 (1948)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/txpete/2007_01051brno0005.jpg

Danny Creasy
February 1, 2007, 08:40 AM
hans1911, the late and great Col. Townsend Whelen said it.

flip180
February 1, 2007, 11:39 PM
Although I voted for CZ, I can also recommend a Biathlon Basic (BB) if you can find one. They come fully floated, bedded and with one hell of a trigger from the factory. I've owned a CZ-452 and would suggest them in a heart beat if you couldn't get a BB.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/flip180/1894C005.jpg?t=1170387443
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/flip180/1894C004.jpg?t=1170387470
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/flip180/tacpro103.jpg?t=1170387498

Flip

KHawk
February 2, 2007, 03:04 PM
These are the two that I shoot the most. First is a HK Haneal Built in about 1935 in Germany. Competition gun from that era. Second is a Yugo made Charles Daley with a 4X scope.

cslinger
February 2, 2007, 03:19 PM
CZ452 no doubt. Reliable, super accurate (Not Cooper/Anschutz) but as or more accurate then ANYTHING anywhere near their price, good looking, well made and inexpensive.

Varmint
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/074603.jpg

100 Yard group with .40 grain CCI Mini Mags. Group can be covered with a dime.
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/081108.jpg

452 Full Stock
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/116256.JPG

50 Yards first time out.
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/116310.JPG

50 Yards, Shoot and See dot, lots of rounds.
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/116311.JPG

So yes I am fully in the 452 camp. I have tricked out 10/22 that is a tack driver as well but the 452s get my vote.

MCgunner
February 2, 2007, 03:33 PM
Anschutz.

Got a 40 year old Remington that can shoot with that CZ.

ChevellRCR
February 2, 2007, 03:35 PM
I second the Biathlon Basic. It is one heck of a rifle.

JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
February 2, 2007, 05:25 PM
Your post askes about plinking. Sure there's a huge camp here with the CZ series. Even a few with the Marlins. -And a good following of 10-22 shooters.

So, with the Marlins you get a 60 in a repeater with tube magazine.
or a bolt with clip/mag. You have the option of getting stainless.
-Accurate for pop cans out to 100yds. But they won't print groups like the targets in this thread.

Or you get the CZ, single shot bolt that will nearly compete with some of the Anschutz for some really good money.

Or, a Ruger 10-22 that with scope will print 1 1/2" at 50yds. for less money than either of the others. If you're not completely satisfied with that, there are upgrades that don't break the bank for the Ruger that will cut that group well in half.

So, assess your needs, then fit the rifle to that need. Cheapest in order are the Marlin, Ruger then the CZ. The other Win and Remintons will cost near as much as the cheap Anschutz. For $600 CMP is offering new Kimbers, for $225, H&R model 12's. I and a friend are buying a couple of model 12's here shortly. -Just because we like tinkering. Where else are you going to find a match grade 1" 28" barrel on a .22 for that price? Adjustable trigger too. No sights, but we're going to put scopes on anyway. We both have 10-22's with some modifications. So, you see, we have plinkers, and we'll soon have something more 'target' ready.

-Steve

Roccobro
February 2, 2007, 10:39 PM
I've heard from some co-workers they CMP Harrington & Richardson target .22 are fine shooters.

http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/caliber22.htm

Justin

lycanthrope
February 3, 2007, 01:48 PM
CZ 452. Trigger upgrading costs $14

http://ebrooks77.50megs.com/

Here's my Lux.

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~jefwolfe/cz452.JPG

50 yards with Wolf MT.

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~jefwolfe/cz50.JPG

scott5
February 3, 2007, 09:23 PM
Hello all,
My first choice is a Remington 512 next is the Marlin model 60.:D
Both are tack drivers.
But the 512 hasn't been made since 1962 :(

skud_dusty
February 3, 2007, 09:55 PM
I voted 10/22. I've had one for 8 years (since I was 14) and have literally never had a problem with it. I never knew how to really take care of it, and so it never really received the cleaning it should have for the first 4 years or so of ownership. Even with the misstreatment it has NEVER let me down. I can shoot the cheapest garbage through it and it doesn't miss a beat. I LOVE that gun. Not to mention, they are quite inexpensive.:D

MCgunner
February 3, 2007, 11:12 PM
But the 512 hasn't been made since 1962

Got mine for my ninth birthday, so that would have been 1961. :D It's still as accurate as it ever was and I keep it loaded with CB shorts for local vermin when needed. Doesn't disturb the neighbors.:D It's got a couple of club bench rest wins to its credit, too, against some more snazzy, modern stuff. With Eley match, that thing is truly amazing.

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