"Biodegradable Clays"


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45R
June 2, 2003, 12:55 PM
Were do I get these things? I was able to find sporting clays at walmart but not of the biodegradable flavor....any big name store?


TIA


45R

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HS/LD
June 2, 2003, 02:04 PM
They are made from Clay right???


HS/LD

akanotken
June 2, 2003, 02:13 PM
But I've seen pigeons that have been out in the weather a long time that have started to sag in spots. At this rate it would take many decades to go back to looking like clay.

45R
June 2, 2003, 02:22 PM
They are made from Clay right???

The ones that I picked up said that they were made of asphault and that ingestion is toxic!!!!:confused:

Nippy
June 2, 2003, 02:47 PM
I get my stuff online. Here's something I was looking at.

http://www.cci-international.com/english__/ourclays_.htm

esheato
June 2, 2003, 10:49 PM
I believe the traditional 'birds' are made out of limestone and pitch with the pitch acting as a binder for the materials.

The biodegradeable birds are supposed to degrade under wet conditions in 2 years.

As far as locating some, I would call up your local club and either; 1. see if they use them and if you could purchase a box or two 2. see if they could order some, as they would probably have more suppliers than anyone else. Good Luck

esheato...

Sven
June 2, 2003, 11:27 PM
Guess what? Don't panic for Saturday... from the website of the place we're shooting:

We sell ammunition, targets, clay birds, shotgun shells along with eye and ear protection at competitive prices.

45R
June 3, 2003, 12:45 AM
SWEEEEEETTTT!!!!!!!!!

JohnRov
June 3, 2003, 10:03 AM
I saw some clays advertised as "environmentally friendly" in Shotgun Sports magazine. I'll post the info tomorrow.

Badger Arms
June 3, 2003, 11:42 AM
I'm gonna have to ask. I don't get the point of this thread. How are clays harmful to the environment? I was under the assumption that, even though the color is displealsing to humans, there was no harm in little chunks of inert matter laying about. Can anybody set me straight because I'm open to opinions on this one.

dickwholliday
June 3, 2003, 09:16 PM
our club switched to them a while back and they don't really "Smoke" like the old ones....the box says they biodegrade in two years......i wonder how long the birdshot will take????? D I C K

Grayrock
June 4, 2003, 12:33 AM
I looked all over central Texas and could only find them at one shooting range. I could only buy from the manufacturer if I wanted a whole pallet at a time.

JohnRov
June 4, 2003, 08:47 AM
OK, the ones I was talking about aren't biodegradable, they were just proven to be non-hazardous and non-toxic to plants, terrestrial invertebrates, and bacteria. Made by Lawry
www.lawryshootingsports.com

foghornl
June 4, 2003, 09:25 AM
Hmmm

I haven't really looked at a box of "clays" in a while, but as I recall, the Rem brand made reference to the pitch used for maikng the clays was toxic to swine.

Badger Arms
June 4, 2003, 11:31 AM
lol, I'll remember that next time I'm shooting clays down on the farm.

akanotken
June 4, 2003, 12:32 PM
I can make my next million by creating Clays that taste like twinkies:neener:

I don't know what the issue is about, every pigeon I shoot at is the environmentalist wacko's dream, it's reusable. And I'm guessin some would claim that they do there part by turning every single one to dust:barf: :rolleyes:

Back to the original question, are there clubs or groups that are requiring special clays? does seem like the lead shot would be more troublesome to those who worry about such things:rolleyes:

JohnRov
June 4, 2003, 12:45 PM
Lead shot is an issue, I have read some articles about it. But clays should be as well. Here' a rough estimate of how many clays are thrown at my club a year.

Practice on Fridays:
125/line x 25 lines= 3125
Practice on Mondays before home shoots:
125/line x 8 lines= 1000
Tuesday home matches:
250/line x 12 lines= 3000

We practice from January but people don't show up much until March and the season ends the last week of August, 6 months is 24 weeks and we have home shoots half of those so that is 12 weeks of home shoots.

Practice:
3125 x 24 = 75,000
Monday practices:
1000 x 12 = 12,000
Tuesday Matches:
3000 x 12 = 36,000

That's 123,000 birds a year. Not all get smoked into dust so that's a lot of accumulation over a few years.

Malone LaVeigh
June 5, 2003, 03:47 PM
Guess what? Don't panic for Saturday... from the website of the place we're shooting:Where are you shooting? Could you provide a link?

45R
June 5, 2003, 03:51 PM
Do a search under Bay Area Shoot for 6-7-03.

We are shooting at the Los Gatos Range. :)

Your welcome to come!!!

firestar
June 5, 2003, 04:07 PM
They should make all clays environmental friendly. Why should it be hard to find?

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