Do you need a permit to buy a handgun?


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HUBSonDUBS
January 31, 2007, 02:22 PM
In florida can I just buy a gun or do i need a concealed weapons permit? If I were to buy a gun online they say they only ship to a fll licensed dealer, what will this deal need from me does he want me to provide a permit?

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Geronimo45
January 31, 2007, 02:52 PM
An FFL dealer is a guy with a Federal license to sell guns. The seller has to ship the guns to a federally-licensed gun dealer in your state (somebody who owns a gun store - Gander Mountain, some pawn shops, etc), who can then give the gun to you - after receiving a transfer fee from you, which is usually around $20.

A concealed carry permit is NOT an FFL. In many states, that permit allows you, when you buy a gun, to skip going through the NICS background check - this can shave off a few minutes or a few days for some people (if you've got the same name as a felon, you might get delayed for a few days by NICS).

Ala Dan
January 31, 2007, 02:56 PM
Don't know about Florida; but here in Alabama you do not have to
have a permit/license* too purchase a handgun~!;) :cool: :D

*FootNote: only to carry concealed

Cliff47
January 31, 2007, 03:06 PM
Here in the Evergreen State (the Other Washington), the holding of a Concealed Carry Permit, exempts one from the mandated waiting period (3 - 5 days, can't remember, it's been a while), but you still go thru the NICS check, and THEY can put a temporary hold on the transaction (computer down, extra busy, random flagging of request).

The last time I had a NICS temp hold, by the time I got home, the message from the gun shop was on my answering machine saying that I was given the go-ahead.

Hemicuda
January 31, 2007, 03:12 PM
Here in Michigan, the u nwashed masses need to get a "permit to purchase" when buying a handgun, and then take it in for a "safety inspection" (that on the very inspection card SAYS "this firearm has not been inspected for safety") we call this a "registration" even though the government says it isn't!

With a CPL license we don't need the "permit to purchase" but we still gotta get them "not safety inspected"...

Bushwhacker
January 31, 2007, 03:12 PM
In North Carolina you must first get a purchase permit from the local sheriffs dept which sometimes takes as long as 90 days and cost $5. for each permit
Than you can go to a FFL dealer and he can sell you a pistol or revolver.
On shotguns and rifles you don't need the permit just get the Brady check done....
Avoid all the above by getting a CHL (Concealed Handgun License):rolleyes:

yeled
January 31, 2007, 03:12 PM
though it does eliminate the three day wait assosiated with buying a handgun. long gun you can take home right away.

So to clarify permit is only needed if you don't want to wait three days to take home your handgun.

Hope that helps

yeled
January 31, 2007, 03:13 PM
MY POST IS FOR FLORIDA ONLY

CountGlockula
January 31, 2007, 03:14 PM
In FL, you don't need a permit for handguns or rifles purchase. But there is a 3-day waiting period for handguns.

GeorgiaGlocker
January 31, 2007, 04:36 PM
Here in Georgia you do not need a permit to purchase a firearm. If you have your carry license however, by state statute, exempt from the background check.

RH822
January 31, 2007, 06:09 PM
Indiana, no permit required and no waiting period.

RH

msb45
January 31, 2007, 06:11 PM
No government permit needed to buy.

Wife permit varies case by case. Sometimes at a pretty steep price.

RH822
January 31, 2007, 06:19 PM
Wife permit varies case by case. Sometimes at a pretty steep price.

Amen Brother.:(

RH

phoglund
January 31, 2007, 06:28 PM
No permit, no wait in Montana.

g5reality
January 31, 2007, 07:54 PM
In California you need to take a class and get a Handgun Safety Certificate from the California Departmetn of Justice. It's good for 5 years. This is only needed for a handgun purhcase. Also you can only take posession of one handgun every 30 days. You may buy as many as you want however.

22-rimfire
January 31, 2007, 08:31 PM
Currently, no permit and no waiting period with the NICs check. There used to be a 7-day waiting period prior to the NICs check although you could pay for a quick check at gun shows via the sheriff's department (for a fee) and take the gun directly home at that time. The waiting period was for the background check and was not a cooling off period or anything like that.

I didn't know that about North Carolina? First I ever heard of a purchase permit in NC?

MD_Willington
January 31, 2007, 08:35 PM
Here in the Evergreen State (the Other Washington), the holding of a Concealed Carry Permit, exempts one from the mandated waiting period (3 - 5 days, can't remember, it's been a while), but you still go thru the NICS check, and THEY can put a temporary hold on the transaction (computer down, extra busy, random flagging of request).

The last time I had a NICS temp hold, by the time I got home, the message from the gun shop was on my answering machine saying that I was given the go-ahead.


Only if you're a true born or naturalized via immigration citizen... I have a two day wait for some reason...

sacp81170a
January 31, 2007, 08:38 PM
Wife permit varies case by case. Sometimes at a pretty steep price.

I fear the WIFE far more than the NICS check. A CHL exempts me from NICS in Arkansas (no permit needed to purchase any firearm, either), but NOTHING can get around the WIFE. She has my number, knows where I live, how much I have in my bank account. I tell ya, who needs Big Brother? :D :D :D

RP86
January 31, 2007, 08:44 PM
In florida can I just buy a gun or do i need a concealed weapons permit?

You do not need a Concealed Weapons Permit/License(CWP/CWL) to purchase a gun in the state of Florida.

If I were to buy a gun online they say they only ship to a fll licensed dealer, what will this deal need from me does he want me to provide a permit?

When purchasing guns online it may only be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensed(FFL) dealer.

Whether you buy the gun directly from the gun shop or online, you will need to provide a valid Florida Driver's License. You will then fill out a form at the gun shop/FFL dealer, in which you will provide name, address, etc. Make sure to write down your social security number, because the gun shop will call up the state office and verify that you can legally own a firearm. If you have a common first and last name you may be declined if you do not write your social, because another person with the same name might be a felon. They charged $5 per background check, this fee applies to both forms of purchasing.

The waiting period for a handgun is 3 days, if you do not have a CWL. This waiting period does not effect those individuals with the permits/licenses. If you are buying a rifle/shotgun the waiting period does not apply.

If you decide to buy online, make sure to notify your FFL dealer before your purchase it. That way you can already have all the paperwork done, and the FFL dealer can fax their license to the online store. FFL transfers generally cost anywhere from $20 to $40. Also, take into consideration that you also have around $30 shipping if you buy online as well. You do avoid tax when buying online if the store is out of state, but FFL fee and shipping add up.

The above applies to Florida only!

-Ryan

HUBSonDUBS
January 31, 2007, 10:59 PM
Is it 21 or 18 to purchase a gun in Florida?

Geronimo45
January 31, 2007, 11:01 PM
21 to purchase a handgun, 18 to purchase a rifle or shotgun.

gunsmith
January 31, 2007, 11:14 PM
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I suggest a Ruger single six in .22lr if you are just getting started, it's a neat cowboy looking gun that you can pass on to your kids.

For home defense you can probably find a shotgun of some kind, look in our handy shotgun forum and ask the folks there.

wdlsguy
January 31, 2007, 11:21 PM
21 to purchase a handgun, 18 to purchase a rifle or shotgun.
From an FFL. An 18 year old can purchase a handgun from a non-FFL in Florida.

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/FLSL.pdf

CDignition
January 31, 2007, 11:30 PM
21

wdlsguy
January 31, 2007, 11:45 PM
Please show me the Florida statute prohibiting an 18-20 year old from buying a handgun from a non-FFL.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0790/ch0790.htm

Geronimo45
January 31, 2007, 11:52 PM
He's talking about buying a gun out-of-state, where it will be sent to his FFL. If he tries to get that handgun from his FFL when he's under 21, it ain't liable to come through.

Apparently, there's some legal question as to whether you can own a handgun when under 21 or no. A lot of states don't prohibit it, but do Federal statutes do so?

wdlsguy
February 1, 2007, 12:06 AM
He's talking about buying a gun out-of-state, where it will be sent to his FFL.
That isn't clear at all. Here is the question I was responding to:
Is it 21 or 18 to purchase a gun in Florida?

Apparently, there's some legal question as to whether you can own a handgun when under 21 or no. A lot of states don't prohibit it, but do Federal statutes do so?
There is no federal law prohibiting an 18 year old from owning a handgun, or buying one from a non-FFL.

N3rday
February 1, 2007, 12:10 AM
There may not be a law in Florida that prohibits someone over 18 from buying a handgun from a NON-FFL, but I don't think it will matter either way...

It's the same way in Texas...I'm 20 now, and I've been to several gunshows, and vendors do NOT like to sell you handguns if you're under 21, regardless of what the law says. In fact, one of the vendors that turned me down was a lawyer who thought I was full of crap! :mad:

Despite the fact that I can legally buy a handgun from anyone who isn't a licensed dealer, I'm forced to wait until I turn 21 anyway. Hopefully, you won't have such luck.

RP86
February 1, 2007, 10:27 AM
Vendors will always be hesitant to sell a handgun to a person between 18-20, because most of them at gun shows are dealers not private sellers. I have had several private sales from people that didn't go through, because they think you have to be 21 to buy/own a handgun in FL. Heck, my LEO friend didn't even know that until I told him and showed him the statute!

-Ryan

MikeH
February 1, 2007, 10:48 AM
One thing that cracks me up every time when I buy a handgun in Maryland is that the MDSP background check comes back with a stamp that says "not disapproved." I guess they don't want to be so politically incorrect as to approve a law-abiding citizen exercising his 2A rights.

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