Waited my Ten days - DOJ Delayed


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arockerdude
February 3, 2007, 11:42 PM
I live in California.:cuss: So had to wait ten days to pick up my Sig p220 ST. It has been paid in full. My Ten day wait was up today. When I went to pick up my gun today all I got was a piece of paper. Stating Delay Delivery. Do Not Release The Firearm Until Further Notice From DOJ. There is a phone number there to call. Has any one else had this happen? What are some of the reasons this could happen? I can't call the number till Monday.:confused:
I may have committed a misdemeanor when I was 18. I 'm 42 now. But sure no felony's that I can think of. I called the police a couple of times lately. Because of problems with a neighbor. Also my name is about the most common name possible. Maybe they are having problems with my name being so common. Any ideas what the problem could be? And how long something like this could take to clear up? Thanks for the help. Dave

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dartman
February 4, 2007, 12:31 AM
I have a similar thing happen when I purchace firearms. The best explanation I have gotten is that someone with a similar name or D.L.# is restricted from purchasing firearms. Hopefully come monday all will be sortad out. Keep us posted.

SoCalShooter
February 4, 2007, 12:33 AM
I would have to go with Dartmans explanation. I have heard of this before, I am glad they are being cautious but in 10 damn days they should have been able to figure out if you are who you say you are...of course if you are who you say you are...right?

Sir Aardvark
February 4, 2007, 01:14 AM
The only delay I had while dealing firearms in California was because my customer exceeded the 1-handgun-per-30-day rule.

He did not realize that he did not let enough time elapse between purchases; he bought one from me on the 28th day, so he had to repay the DROS fee and wait 10 more days.

The DOJ-Firearms Unit should let you or the dealer know right away what the problem is - have your dealer call, or have him give you the Firearms Unit's phone number and DROS number and call yourself.

treelogger
February 4, 2007, 01:25 AM
If the problem doesn't clear itself within a few days, call the phone number given to you (which should be at the DoJ in Sacramento), and ask what the cause of the block is. Have a copy of the DROS with you, you probably need the number on it. Stay in touch with the dealer, to make sure that someone does follow up on this with the DoJ, and to prevent both of you from following up on it at the same time.

Rumor has it that entering your SSN in the DROS form (it is voluntary) really helps cut down on purchases being denied due to confusion with other people with the same or similar names.

Pilgrim
February 4, 2007, 02:06 AM
I would have to go with Dartmans explanation. I have heard of this before, I am glad they are being cautious but in 10 damn days they should have been able to figure out if you are who you say you are...of course if you are who you say you are...right?
Having worked in a CA gun shop, I am suspicious that you weren't notified by your dealer right away. In my experience, as soon as DOJ puts a hold on a sale they call the dealer and notify him.

In the shop I worked in, the owner invariably called the purchaser, told them what was going on, and passed on the information so the purchaser could call DOJ and get working on clearing up the problem.

Pilgrim

arockerdude
February 7, 2007, 09:24 AM
Well today I got a hold of the lady at the DOJ that is doing my paper work. She said that I was arrested back in 1984 for Unlawful Assembly. And Failure To Disperse. And that they couldn't see what had ever happed with it. I guess they were wondering if it was something I didn't take care of. I told her that sure wasn't me. She quickly noticed that it was on the same day that I had gotten the one misdemeanor that is on my record. She thinks a clerk somewhere along the way typed in a wrong code. She said she is sure she can take care of it. She said just give her one or two days. She took down my number and said she would call me in a day or two. So that made me feel a lot better. I was getting ready to move out of California.
Also wanted to mention. The gun shop said the reason they didn't call was because they didn't want to cause any problems at home. Like maybe with the wife being upset about a hand gun purchase. I looked at the DOJ delay letter. It was dated the same day as the purchase. I left the shop at 4:45PM the DOJ closes at 4:00PM go figure. So the shop new for all ten days. They had taken my number down. For what they said. Just in case. I think they just screwed up and forgot to call me:banghead: Take care all. Dave

armoredman
February 7, 2007, 10:26 AM
Find a new shop. Better yet, move over here to Free AZ.:cool:

Outlaw Man
February 7, 2007, 01:15 PM
It's pretty sad that they can't get it straight in 10 days. The BATFE cleared me for and issued to me a license in that time.

Hope everything works out for you soon.

arockerdude
February 9, 2007, 06:57 AM
Well called on Monday the lady handling my paper work was not there. Called Tuesday and she said it's just a type error and to give her one or two days. Called back Thursday and she was not in the office again.:confused: They said she will be back tomorrow:eek: I'll keep on them. It's been sixteen days since I payed for the gun.:banghead: Dave

Libertylover
February 9, 2007, 12:01 PM
:scrutiny: You expected more from a bureaucrat?

Roccobro
February 10, 2007, 12:28 AM
That is so lame of them (and the gun shop). They are not only delaying your rights, they are taking away your excitement too. I'd be bummed after 3 weeks of waiting for a big ticket item to show after being paid in full.

Justin

bg
February 10, 2007, 02:36 AM
The only delay I had while dealing firearms in California was because my customer exceeded the 1-handgun-per-30-day rule.

He did not realize that he did not let enough time
elapse between purchases; he bought one from me
on the 28th day, so he had to repay the DROS fee
and wait 10 more days.
Heavens I got caught right up in that scenario when it
first went into law in 2000. Bought a Ruger Vaq in mid
Dec of 99, then found a excellent deal on a Python in
the early part of Jan. Paid for the weapon and DROS,
then waited to pick up the new Python. Got a call
from the FFL that the DOJ denied me. So I had to
wait UNTIL the end of Jan when the 30 day stretch
was over and refile ! Another 35.00 down the drain.

That 1 in 30 day deal caught me big time..

arockerdude
February 10, 2007, 06:34 PM
Finally I have been cleared. Here is the reason I was delayed. I had a misdemeanor on my record from 1984. It's the first last and only thing on my record. The DOJ claimed that some clerk back in 1984 typed in a wrong code. So it looked like on the same day as my misdemeanor there was another misdemeanor. And you wont believe what it was for. It was for unlawful assembly and failure to disperse:banghead: And they were telling me it was never taken care of. I told the lady at the DOJ I have never done any protesting. As I was going on about how my family is full of Veterans. She realized Some clerk had just entered a wrong code. She did release the gun but said she did not have the fax she needed. So next week I will do a follow up so I don't get stuck next time I buy a firearm. Will it's Saturday and my Son and I are off to the range.:D Take care all. Thanks for the help. Dave

millerm77
September 8, 2010, 01:10 AM
I was told that my application is also delayed by the Gun Shop today. My 10 day wait period was up tomorrow. The Gun Shop gave me a number for the DOJ in Sacramento. I had to call several times before getting through but, I was able to speak with a Female. She told me that in 1987 I was fingerprinted and wanted to know why. I explained the situation to her...long story short, I was never charged nor convicted of anything. I just happened to be with the wrong bunch of people. She informed me that she doesn't really know how long this will take to clear up and requested I call back in a week. The ironic thing about this situation is I just retired from the Air Force after serving my country for 23 years. I have handled/shot many weapons in this time frame. I now have DOJ stuck in their records and paperwork trying to verify whether I was convicted or not. Makes me feel like moving out of the State. The constitutional rights and freedoms I fought for are now being challenged by this state. I'm in dismay and feeling a bit down/ashamed. I also held a Top Secret Security Clearance and just left a BLACK program before I retired. I'm really confused! :confused:

ChefKristian
September 8, 2010, 01:28 AM
Man, I could not imagine having to wait 10 or more days... I just bought a shotgun today in a span of 5 minutes... Gotta love Texas :)

Bubbles
September 8, 2010, 09:10 AM
This is becoming a big problem with NICS. States are reporting arrests and charges from decades ago, but if the charges are dropped there is no "disposition" in the records, so people get delayed or denied. We had this happen with a customer a few weeks ago who had a handgun transferred in, and he got denied. He also had a valid CHL but in WV that doesn't negate the background check like in many states.

Long story short, he'd been arrested and charged with a misdemeanor in MD back in the 1970's, and the charges were dropped. He had to hire an attorney to get it cleared up.

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