[popeye]

Anybody converted their Camp 9 using the Bullpup stock config. available? I want to try the Bullpup config. without investing cash in a new gun. I have a Camp 9. Thanks.

[Trebor]

Is there a bullpup conversion available for the Camp 9? The gun has been out of production so long I'm surprised if anyone is making a bullpup conversion kit.

[popeye]

This is what I'm looking at. I think they're still around. Saw a kit on GB.

http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/merchant.mvc?page=MSP/PROD/24_stocks/MZ-09

[Plink]

I put my Marlin in the Muzzelite bullpup stock about 15 years ago. I love it, but it's a double edged sword. It balances great and points instinctively. The downside is the trigger setup adds some mush and extra weight to the Carbine's already overly heavy trigger. Since it's only a 9mm and isn't a long range cartridge, the bullpup works out very well for the gun though.

The sights that come on the stock kit are adjustable but a little coarse. That's fine on a pistol caliber plinker though. The gun really came into it's own when I put a red dot sight on it. You can easily nail man sized targets at 100 yards with 100% reliability, but the heavier trigger does tend to affect your groups.

It's a lot of work to disassemble (and rezero) for thorough cleaning, but if your Marlin is like mine, it'll run practically forever with nothing more than a little oil applied to the moving parts. I pull mine apart every few years to detail clean. The rest of the time it gets an Otis pulled through the bore and some oil applied to the bolt.

I like the bullpup stocks enough that I added them to my gun show sales and have gotten a lot of positive comments from folks who have bought them.

[popeye]

Thanks much for replies and info. I may try it. I would use a red dot.

[Lobotomy Boy]

I wonder if the 10/22 stock could be adapted to my PC9?

[Deles136]

I have the "Muzzlelite" bullpup stock on my Camp 9 carbine and my only problem was the trigger pull. I changed the very heavy spring behind the trigger bar for a much lighter spring and problem solved. I also greased the trigger bar and the slides it runs in with light weight grease. I use a red dot sight and it is very good for 100 yards.

[Plink]

There's a lot you can do for the trigger pull if you're mechanically inclined. Replacing the spring is a good start. I wish it was easier to do a trigger job on the carbine itself, as a lot of the weight comes from the factory trigger.

One thing I tinkered with on the Mini-14 version of the bullpup was gluing in smooth stainless steel inserts into the stock's trigger bar channels. The trigger bar was modified by cutting a recess and drilling a hole. A spring went into the hole and smooth stainless steel U shaped pieces of metal went into the cutouts, so that the spring pushed them outward into the stainless steel inserts in the trigger bar channel. This led to smooth metal on metal contact instead of the course plastic on plastic contact, but it was one MAJOR hassle and I won't do the modification again.

Polishing the trigger bar and channel with 600 grit paper works pretty well and is a lot less work. Good grease is a must also.

[popeye]

I want a Bullpup in a pistol caliber. How about a Beretta Storm if I can come up with the money. Or is that considered a carbine?

[Full Clip]

Carbine.
http://thewilderness.com/catalog/images/beretta_storm500.jpg

Bullpup.
http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/graphics/00000001/MWG-MZ0-022.gif

Note position of mag and action.

[Lobotomy Boy]

The Beretta occupies its own niche. The magazine inserts through the pistol grip, as in an autoloader handgun, rather than behind the grip, as in a traditional bullpup, or ahead of the grip, as in a carbine. It's a clever design.

[popeye]

10 dash 4. Thankyou.