If Eric Rudolph Is Found Guilty, What Is The Approiate Sentence?
Ala Dan
June 3, 2003, 11:55 AM
Please vote on one of the option's listed in the poll.
*Please excuse the spelling folk's; cuz it ain't what
it use to be!
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
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.45Ruger
June 3, 2003, 12:35 PM
I favor the death penalt in this case. If a person chooses to place bombs that go offand kill people that person has given up their right to life, liberty and the persuit of hapiness.
Mastrogiacomo
June 3, 2003, 12:44 PM
The man is clearly in favor of the death penalty -- he's given it to many innocent people. Seeing how deserving he is -- I say follow the Bible's lesson and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Too bad we can't bring back old sparkey just for him...:fire:
hops
June 3, 2003, 12:57 PM
Lesser Sentence:
He seems good with explosives. There are lots of land mines to clear in Iraq. Seems like he has a 10 year job there using his skill. Why put some poor U.S. soldier at risk doing that dirty job?
Edward429451
June 3, 2003, 12:59 PM
I think its pretty cool how he was able to elude such a big manhunt with all the gubmints technology and such but in no way could I support him in his activities such as planting bombs.
I hate the gubmint as much as anyone and am not afraid to voice it. I dont or wont go around planting bombs or killing innocents though. I say cleanse the gene pool from his kind of extremeism.
CZ-75
June 3, 2003, 01:01 PM
Capital punishment is appropriate for ALL terrorists.
FPrice
June 3, 2003, 01:08 PM
Guilty.
I say death by abortion.
Kinda poetic justice.
erikm
June 3, 2003, 01:18 PM
I'm not in favor of the death penalty in this case (or almost any other) because it's too permanent. The quality of justice currently seen in the US and elsewhere allows far to many "mistakes" or miscarriages of justice to slip through the net. Didn't Indiana impose a death penalty moratorium after an innocent man was released from death row for every man executed?
Now if you were to ask me if he, ifA proven guilty of what he's accused of, should spend the rest of his natural life at hard and/or dangerous labor, I would probably agree. Cleaning up toxic waste dumps, breaking rocks or doing something similar for life seems appropriate.
Cheers,
ErikM :evil:
A) Show the evidence. The man hasn't had his day in court yet. Presume innocence and all that. In the Netherlands, there's a legal (I think) ban on giving criminals' full names and addresses in the press partly to prevent the demonization that regularly occurs in the US press.
SodaPop
June 3, 2003, 07:37 PM
I say death by abortion.
Agreed.
CZ-100
June 3, 2003, 08:10 PM
I support Capital punishment 100%
KILL THE SOB! :neener:
PlayTheAces
June 3, 2003, 08:50 PM
I've only heard a little bit about the case on the news, but I believe he's accused of planting bombs and injuring/killing folk. That, IIRC, is premeditated murder.
If he did it, I'd fry him without a second thought.
CZ-75
June 4, 2003, 02:29 AM
Whatever this guy's stance on abortion, how did he get the idea that bombing the Olympics would affect the issue? :rolleyes:
Kinda hard to argue that you were stopping murder by bombing a sporting event.
Delmar
June 4, 2003, 05:41 AM
SMOKE HIM LIKE A CATFISH!
CatsDieNow
June 4, 2003, 07:53 AM
Didn't Indiana impose a death penalty moratorium after an innocent man was released from death row for every man executed?
Close, but not quite. That was Indiana's rowdy neighbor to the West - Illinois.
Tamara
June 4, 2003, 07:55 AM
They shoulda killed that Richard Jewell guy, too!
(Oh, wait, he didn't really do it, though, did he?)
JohnBT
June 4, 2003, 10:32 AM
How about life imprisonment -> 23 hours a day of Olympic Game reruns.
Just a thought.
John
Joe Demko
June 4, 2003, 11:32 AM
Kill him. Right after you prove that The State can flawlessly determine guilt and innocence.
gburner
June 4, 2003, 12:20 PM
Smoke 'em...but just before his time,
give him a medal for destroying a baby killing facility. Re. the abortion clinic bombing, I see no difference between his murderous behavior and the murderous behavior of the staff that facillitate the slaughter of the innocent pre-born.
jmbg29
June 4, 2003, 12:25 PM
(Oh, wait, he didn't really do it, though, did he?)Nor was he found guilty of it in a court of law.:rolleyes:
Hawkman
June 4, 2003, 12:44 PM
Well, it sounds like a (((shudder))) hate crime. If he is found guilty, you have to kill him twice - once for murder, once for hate.
XLMiguel
June 4, 2003, 01:05 PM
Beyond reasonale doubt, eh? Don't know yet, but seems highly likely. If certainty (99.98% wil do) can be established, smoke'em.
Carlos Cabeza
June 4, 2003, 01:07 PM
An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
I'd like to see the firing squad brought back into use. No point in trying to rehabilitate, house, clothe, feed, educate, etc. at the expense of good, honest, law abiding people.
But we musn't forget due process.
JohnBT
June 4, 2003, 01:57 PM
I wonder if he will take credit for bombings or murders not attributed to him at this time? He seems to be the proud sort of feller that would want everything that is coming to him. :)
You know, I sort of understand this wacko Rudolph - killing people, living in the woods, dumpster diving, etc. He's nuts. It's the people cheering him on that I find so amazingly bizarre. The one's I've seen quoted in the paper seem to be kind of average working people who appear to be otherwise normal - other than rooting for a mad murdering bomber.
Has Rudolph signed his confession yet? His pride and righteousness will make him do it.
John
CZ-75
June 4, 2003, 02:23 PM
If he only caused property damage, I could see him becoming a hero to the pro-life movement. It's hard to say you're PRO-LIFE when you kill people, particularly an LEO and woman at a sporting event, neither of whom had any connection to performing abortions.
CRAYZCANESSPORTS
June 4, 2003, 03:20 PM
1) Use him to clean up Iraq, waste dumps, and other dangerous work, as mentioned above.
2) Fry him to a crispy critter, :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: , when we are done using him.
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Erik
June 4, 2003, 05:37 PM
Bomber? Murderer? Maimer?
Death.
All dependent on conviction, of course.
Sir Galahad
June 4, 2003, 10:38 PM
The people who cheer this TERRORIST on probably sat there and act shocked and angry that the Palestinians cheered for the 9/11 hijackers. Difference? None. You support the use of murder against unarmed civilians as a political tool or you don't. There aren't any "Get Out Of Morality Free" cards. Now, the people cheering him on remind me of Joseph Stalin. As long as Hitler was kicking around the Czechs and helping him get half of Poland, Hitler was a swell guy and a sharp dresser. But then when Hitler invaded the USSR, THEN Hitler was the bad guy. Well who's to say that once this TERRORIST got done making his point about abortion clinics, gay nightclubs, and sporting events that might include, Gods forbid, people of different races together, that he wouldn't turn his attention next to even Christian churces that he thought apostate. Or the "traitors" in the "midst" of the "righteous" with him as sole judge, jury, and executioner. People never think about that. They always think they won't be NEXT. I don't care WHO the TERRORIST is, what he believes, or what he wants. I am not concerned with his needs. I am concerned with mine. I wouldn't want to be next on the "Hit Parade" if he took his show on the road because I don't believe as he does religiously, or I'm not racially pure or whatever. Snuff that POS. Send his worthless butt to Guantanamo in the meantime.
CZ-75
June 5, 2003, 02:05 AM
Now, the people cheering him on remind me of Joseph Stalin. As long as Hitler was kicking around the Czechs and helping him get half of Poland, Hitler was a swell guy and a sharp dresser. But then when Hitler invaded the USSR, THEN Hitler was the bad guy.
There are still apologists for "Uncle Joe" who spend their time reminding us that he was our friend for a few years (out of necessity, of course) and Hitler murdered the Jews, et al. Never minding that Stalin had even more blood on his hands than Der Fuehrer .
Both were scumbags.
I saw a cartoon that had a redneck type praising Rudolph standing right next to a middle eastern type praising UBL. Seems more than a few here in this country can't see the similarity, which is both are scumbags.
gunsmith
June 5, 2003, 02:08 AM
ol Jimmy "liberal icon" Carter is anti abortion too
Desert Dog
June 5, 2003, 02:24 AM
I think he should be booted out of a plane at high subsonic speed over North Korea.
I guess he can have a parachute...
stevelyn
June 5, 2003, 12:30 PM
Turn him into a piece of burnt toast.
Ala Dan
June 5, 2003, 02:29 PM
Update from Bombingham, AL-
Well folks, Mr. Eric Robert Rudolph has been appointed
a legal defense team here in Bombingham. The lead
attorney will be a high profile criminal defense lawyer
by the name of Mr. Richard Jaffe. He's known to be a
very good attorney, with a good track record. He has
already started building a defense for the suspect;
by openly stating that the governments only proof
is the fact that Ruldolph's truck was seen in the area
shortly after the bombing of the New Women-All Women
abortion clinic. The suspect viewed by an eye witness
running away immediately after the blast was hooded.
In Mr. Jaffe's opinion that certainly leaves room for
doubt.
He believes that the Fed's are withholding evidence
that supposedly would connect Rudolph to the Atlanta
Centennial Park bombing, in which a lady was killed.
Its unclear what evidence (if any) the government has
connected to the other bombing's in or near the Atlanta
area? Rudolph will have a detention hearing early next
week; where prosecuter's are expected to ask the judge
not to grant bond; as they consider him a flight risk. (LOL)*
*FootNote- I guess so, as he has already made a FOOL
out of the Justice Department's top boy's. Of course, I
realize that former Attorney General Janet Reno was
too busy trying to cover up the mess at Ruby Ridge
and Waco!
At any rate, here is my way of thinking. If (and ONLY)
if Rudolph is convicted in the bombing, and death of officer
Sanderson, he should be executed. Then when (and if) he
faces trial in Federal Court in the Northern District of Georgia
and is again found GUILTY of the Centennial Park bombing,
a second death sentence is in order.
You say, "a death sentence is not a detternt"! One thing
is for sure, IF Rudoplh is executed, HE won't do it again!
Respectfuuly,
Ala Dan, N,R.A. Life Member
Giant
June 5, 2003, 11:42 PM
In this case the death penalty is appropriate. If this man is found guilty by a jury of his peers, he should be executed. An aside here, his crimes have nothing to do with abortion, either pro or con. Simply put he killed people, he has no valid defense or excuse for doing that. In my opinion Eric Rudolph is a coward and a murderer, if convicted should be put to death.
Giant
Mr. James
June 6, 2003, 12:29 AM
Greetings,
Well, I'll go out on a limb. The natural visceral reaction is that of, presently, 87.01 percent of respondents.
It's my reaction, as well.
But I joined that tiny minority saying "no."
This stems from two concerns. One is the practical issue raised by Tamara - well, what if he really didn't do it? Smokin' 'im is a mighty permanent solution, however justified in this case. And how much faith do we put in an ambitious and agressive prosecution with a vested interest in closing the case with a conviction?
The second concern, I guess, is more theological than legal. We are taught, whether under color of religion or simple ethics, to love one another as ouselves. However justified execution may be in this case to us, I fear it may constitute a sin - the sin of despair. We are giving up on God's mercy and grace ever reaching this soul and rescuing him from Gehenna.
He is incarcerated and cannot predate upon innocents any further. But is it conceivable the Lord's grace can save him? He may, or may not, be beyond hope. How often did the Lord say to career sinners, "Go, and sin no more"?
I want to smoke him. I want to throw that switch. And I worry, because that very natural reaction may be substituting my "wisdom" for that of God.
I'm grateful the decision has not fallen to me.
Peace.
Mr. James
June 6, 2003, 12:36 AM
Apologies,
I hoped to edit that last post by noting that by "visceral reaction" I didn't in any way mean to imply unthinking or incorrect. I was thinking "natural."
CZ-75
June 6, 2003, 02:15 AM
One is the practical issue raised by Tamara - well, what if he really didn't do it?
He'll only have the next 15 years or so to show that he didn't, provided he is even convicted. :rolleyes:
We are giving up on God's mercy and grace ever reaching this soul and rescuing him from Gehenna.
I'm agnostic, so I really don't care. I only hope they don't have too much trouble finding a vein. :evil:
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