[DadOfThree]

Does it sunset Dec 31, 1994 (if a new one is not voted in) or at the begining of the year?

[CleverNickname]

It sunsets 10 years after the original bill was signed, so it's 9/15/04, IIRC.

[Kharn]

At 12:01 am on 9/14/03, its a goner.

Kharn

[TarpleyG]

So what happens then? Will it take several days, weeks, months before we see any difference?

GT

[Kharn]

TarpleyG:
I know of at least one individual that has made an all-day appointment with his gunsmith's lathe and threading tools. Things will change immediately, there's no doubt about it, but I bet most manufacturers will still turn out 'post-ban' guns for those poor individuals in NY (who have a state version of the federal ban) and such.

Kharn

[CleverNickname]

Heh. I got the day wrong, Kharn got the year wrong. It's 9/14/04. :D

[Hkmp5sd]

an all-day appointment with his gunsmith's lathe and threading tools

One interesting (and totally scary) possible scenerio following the ban's death could be that on the 14th, everyone runs out threading barrels, adding folding stocks and buying up every cheap "LEO only" magazine they can find. Then our faithful representatives in government, pausing to let the elections pass, write/approve/sign a new AW ban that retroactively sets the ban date to 09/13/94 (and that is exactly what the existing new bills do).

What happens to all of these instantly illegal guns and accessories?

[Boats]

One interesting (and totally scary) possible scenerio following the ban's death could be that on the 14th, everyone runs out threading barrels, adding folding stocks and buying up every cheap "LEO only" magazine they can find. Then our faithful representatives in government, pausing to let the elections pass, write/approve/sign a new AW ban that retroactively sets the ban date to 09/13/94 (and that is exactly what the existing new bills do).

That's what they call an ex post facto law, specifically barred by the Constitution and case law from use by the Congress in criminal law contexts. The penalties for violating the AWB being criminal in nature, such a retro move would be unconstitutional and certainly face a Supreme Court willing to wade into that area of the law, even if they are reluctant to confront the meaning of the 2A directly.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. One of the reasons that the current AWB grandfathered preban rifles and mags, aside from the difficulty of getting them all or paying for a Fifth Amendment compensation package for them, is that facially unconstitutional retroactive criminalization isn't good for statute survivability during court reviews. The antis are evil, but they aren't completely stupid.

[Hkmp5sd]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

I'm not. :) I actually believe the AW will vanish next year. If a democrat beats Bush, they might succeed the following year in getting a new ban passed.

[Mark Tyson]

Do any states have a law identical to the federal assault weapons ban?

[Skunkabilly]

Do any states have a law identical to the federal assault weapons ban?

Federal law is to Michael Jackson (bad) as California law is to Wierd Al Yankovic (even worse). :barf:

[Russ]

If the DemocRATS get both Houses and the Presidency again someday, they will probably bring it back. Just a matter of time I think.

[Mark Tyson]

They may try, Russ. Before that happens we must all put all our energy into building the pro-RKBA organizations into political powerhouses and recruiting as many good, responsible gun owners to our side as possible. Write letters, introduce people to shooting, contribute money when you can.

Oh yeah, and when the ban expires, buy more guns. But I don't need to tell anyone here that!

[Kharn]

Oops, I feel like a dip :cuss: , what a newbie mistake. 9/13 is my brother's birthday and I always remember the ban sunsetting the day after his 21st birthday, but I miscounted the years when making that post...

Kharn

[yucapote]

What is the AWB sunset exact date?

Its on every dust cover of those :evil: EVIL:evil: rifles and assault waepons of mass destruction; and on those :evil: evil:evil: "high cap" magazines.

9/14/03 hopefully

[Gray Peterson]

9/14/04

[gunsmith]

boats saidThe antis are evil, but they aren't completely stupid.
I think the anti freedom groups are (1)racist bigots who side with
Hitler & Stalin,(2)that they are criminal psychopaths,and (3)the people who swallow their lies are gullible insipid sheep...
if (3) are not stupid they must be 1&2!!!:evil: :neener: :cool: :p ;) :D

[Mark Tyson]

So what are you guys going to buy when the ban expires?

[Slotback]

I am going to buy whatever I can afford. And I hope I can afford to buy a lot!:D

[CleverNickname]

So what are you guys going to buy when the ban expires?

Use my newly aquired full-capacity magazines while blasting away at the flying pigs outside. ;)