[ta4]

Any idea when it would be available?

[texas chase]

Mine should be coming in the mail tomorrow. Got it off a guy on gunbroker.com. Tried Gander Mountain and they said that they couldn't get it. Budsgunshop.com has some for a good price. Check 'em out.

[ta4]

Thanks, Tex-ordered one last week & should be in my hands this week. Knoxx makes a SpecOps stock for it, too. What ammo do you plan to use?

[texas chase]

http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs10.htm

Go to this site and scroll about half way down. There's a section titled "20 Gauge Home defense Loads" or something close to that. They have 3 recommendations. I'm probably going to go w/ the Remington #3 buckshot reduced recoil, especially because my wife may be using this.

By the way, I got the gun yesterday. Very nice little 870. Plan on cleaning it up a bit and running some shells through it this weekend. I'll try and report back w/ news.

[Fred Fuller]

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_64/products_id/41038
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Verrrrry interesting. A 20 ga. 18" 870 Express with a factory mag extension and synthetic (apparently full size) furniture, for an advertised price of $274.78.

I do see managed recoil slugs available from Remington, but no reduced recoil buckshot- http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/shotshell/slugs/managed-recoil_buckhammer.asp . That at least is progress on the development of the 20 ga. 870 as a serious alternative for HD.

Now if Remington made the 18" 20 ga. 870 Express gun with a 12" LOP synthetic stock with an R3 recoil pad and no magazine extension as an option- and offered a reduced recoil buckshot load for it- then the smaller statured folks would be all set. We can hope...

lpl/nc

[ta4]

Thanks again Tex-I'm glad this thread is getting a little attention. The 20g has been highly underated imho for home defense. Thanks for the link. I'm going to order the Knoxx SpecOps for the gun.

[Bud Tugly]

How about this for HD for the smaller shooters:

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/youth/model_870_express_jr.asp

[Fred Fuller]

Should work fine- if there were reduced recoil buckshot around to load it with. The lighter weight of the 20 ga. pumpguns seems to get recoil jacked up pretty good from the full-house 20 ga. buck and slug loads.

Will have to get some of the Remington Managed Recoil slugs and get a report from my wife on the bearability of the old 870 Youth Express 20 ga. lurking in the safe...

lpl/nc

[texas chase]

Midway has the Remmy Premier reduced recoil #3 buck shot 2 3/4". You can also see it on Remington's brochure for their new "tactical" line. I guess they came out w/ it specifically for the 20 ga. HD 870.

I've always been a 12 ga. guy. Always wondered what the point was in having anything else when you can manage/ adapt 12 ga. loads for pretty much any particular situation you are in. However... while I still think that is probably true, I definitely see the appeal of a 20 ga. especially if my wife is going to be potentially handling this gun w/ a perp in the house. (Got this gun w/ that in mind. If I'm traveling or gone for some other reason, etc.)

I'll tell you if my conversion is complete after I shoot a couple of boxes of shells through it. :)

[only1asterisk]

texas chase,

Could you link us to that 20ga buckshot load? I can't seem to find it at Midway or Remington.

David

[texas chase]

http://www.midwayusa.com/static.exe/getstaticpage?page=223200710_page.htm

page 15, top left hand side

However, I may have spoken out of context. Now that I look a little closer, they don't label it "reduced/managed recoil". I just read that at tactical firearms.com. That link is in this thread. They compare 3 different buckshot loads (20 ga.) for home defense and recommend the remmy because it is "softer" than the others, which are actually magnum loads now that I think about it. Sorry for the mistake.

[ta4]

Picked up the gun today & ordered the Knoxx SpecOps stock for it. Nice little machine!:D Now to look for some deals on ammo.