Ballistic vests/Second Chance


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Gunblade
February 10, 2007, 12:10 PM
I was informed by a classmate of mine in my security program that it is legal to own one in NJ, but charges will be made if it is worn in a violent crime.

Can anyone here clarify this?:confused:

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NukemJim
February 10, 2007, 11:46 PM
I am not certain of your laws you should check with a lawyer IANAL but IIRC he is correct.

It's an "enhancement" charge. If you do something bad when wearing the vest there is an additional charge and and additional penalty. Same as carrying a gun while comming another crime in many states.

Internet legal advice is worth what you pay for it :rolleyes:

NukemJim

RustyShackelford
February 11, 2007, 01:54 AM
I'm not 100% sure but I think Second Chance is out of business or in major hot water with the DoJ and/or SEC-IRS-etc. It's founder/CEO, Richard Chance(a former sworn LEO wounded in the line of duty) got busted and Second Chance is not sold by most US public safety sources(like Galls, USCav, QMuniforms, etc).

Any members here know any new details about Chance or his body armor company?

Rusty

Sunray
February 11, 2007, 04:08 AM
"...Second Chance is out of business..." Nope. The Second Chance Combat Shoot is no more though. The original pin shoot. Friggin' shame too. Never had a better vacation. Rifles, pistols, smgs, BMG, factory reps. It was fabulous. Rumour has it that the local politicians decided to shut it down. Idiots. Cost the local economy thousands and thousands.
"...It's founder/CEO, Richard Chance..." Wrong again. Richard Davis. He never was a cop.
http://www.secondchance.com/home.asp
There are 926 cops or armed guards who are alive because they wore a Seciond Chance vest.
Whether having one in NJ is legal or not is another question. It likely illegal to wear body armour when committing a crime, but not as a security guard or cop.

never_retreat
February 11, 2007, 04:16 PM
1.Unlawful use of body vests. A person is guilty of a crime if he uses or wears a body vest while engaged in the commission of, or an attempt to commit, or flight after committing or attempting to commit murder, manslaughter, robbery, sexual assault, burglary, kidnapping, criminal escape or assault under N.J.S.2C:12-1b. Use or wearing a body vest while engaged in the commission of, or an attempt to commit, or flight after committing or attempting to commit a crime of the first degree is a crime of the second degree. Otherwise it is a crime of the third degree.

As used in this section, "body vest" means bullet-resistant body armor which is intended to provide ballistic and trauma protection.

The crims don't need body armor if the serfs don't have guns. Were getting closer and closer.......:what:

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