[tnieto2004]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=251276

http://stiletto-one.livejournal.com/

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2324781

http://jessicalois.livejournal.com/

I had seen his post's a few times .. poor guy .. you never know what some people are going through .. He took his own life .. What a terrible thing to happen .. I feel for his friends and family ..

[Dionysusigma]

Oh my goodness... :( :uhoh: :(

What... what went wrong?

[Warren]

Damn.

[30 cal slob]

Oh, Lord. That is just...sad.

RIP.

[Monkeyleg]

He was very young to die.

RIP.

[gunsmith]

to his real family and his online ones.

[losoj30@yahoo.com]

im a new member i love this place, and im exteremly sad to hear that. Sometimes lonelines can overwelm people. Keep the people you love close!!

[antagonist22]

That is sad....

[Biker]

I've known good men, strong and brave men who just decided not to live anymore. I will not judge them, I don't know what private hell they were living in.
I will wish them blue, sunny skies and country roads.

And peace...

Biker

[SuperNaut]

I'll drink to that Biker.

I'm moving through a lot of emotions right now.

[bill larry]

Vaya con Dios, man...

[Logan5]

My prayers are with his family, this is a terrible loss.

[The-Fly]

that just sucks............ :fire:

[Oleg Volk]

He was a good and kind man.

[Geronimo45]

Sure is a shame.

[SoCalShooter]

Well this puts a damper on things. Damn, my condolences to the friends and family.:(

[Hk91 Fan]

Terrible. God bless this kid, his family, and all who knew and cored for him.

[innerpiece]

verry sad.
there is always a friend, and no-one is replaceable. RIP stilleto.

and Shame on the sick kids at somethingawefull.

[VARifleman]

This strikes a little close to home.

Here are some pictures he left on our school gun club's forum...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/StilettoOne/Guns/M39/Playtime.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/StilettoOne/Bench2.jpg

I shoot at that range 2-4 times a week.

Dang...just...dang...

:(

[BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE]

Its sad when these things happen, I have had some good friends that have chose this way, god belss and condolneces to all.

[RNB65]

Very sad.

:(

[rbernie]

Dang. I wished he'd have asked for a second opinion on that. :(

[jlbraun]

I really enjoyed his milsurp photos. RIP, sir.

A good friend of mine once said "If I ever were in a situation where I wanted to kill myself, I would disappear completely and start a new life in Africa or something. Just change my life completely away from the old one." Of course, she was such an irrepressible optimist anyway that she could make sucha thing work.

[Sindawe]

*SIGH*

Sad and senseless. A moments selfish indulgence will yield years of sorrow, doubt and pain for his family and friends.

Hopefully he'll get those inner demons worked out before his next turn on the wheel.

[Kimber1911_06238]

young guy, very sad. condolences

[thexrayboy]

Every one lives with their own personal demons. We either learn to rule them or they rule us. Sometimes people can't find a way to do either. Those tortured souls often end this chapter of existence hoping the next one will be better. Here is to the next chapter for this young man, may it bring him a
more peaceful existence. Condolences to the family. They often blame themselves for the choices of another when only a wizard could have foretold for them the future.

[10-Ring]

To a troubled soul, may you find peace

[Autolycus]

RIP.

[Combat Controller]

He was a well respected an thought of member of the Other Side of Kim as well. We all miss him already. Heck, he started a couple of inside jokes that everybody uses. Frank, we miss you buddy.

[Arkie]

R.I.P. Friend.

[losoj30@yahoo.com]

since my first comment. Iwould think that the people here that he conversated with if asked would had showed him some love and maybe said have something that could have helped bring him back from the state he was in, maybe not.

[Hoppy590]

Wow. I just don’t have a response. It’s always the people you don’t expect. I remember a lot of his posts and he always seemed like any one of us college age kids. Coming of age. New friends, new lives, finding out about the ways of the world. Seeing new places.

And I suppose that’s what he did in the end. He went on to see more new places. I can only hope that the scene of that beach is not the last sight of beauty and perfection he sees.


RIP man.

[DoubleTapDrew]

A friend and relative of mine recently chose to end his life as well. Although iti's hard for us left here, I'm sure they are both having a blast in the happy hunting grounds.
Rest in peace. Our memories of you live on.

[mattw]

I didn't even know the guy but its never good to lose anyone, especially a fellow High Roader. Hope he's in a better place.

[GRB]

I knew about Frank mostly through posts at theothersideofkim.com, and maybe a few here too. He sure seemed like a fun loving guy, and a nice man at that. It is a sad day today to have learned that he felt it best to leave his family, his loved ones and the rest of us behind.

With regrets,
Glenn B
http://ballseyesboomers.blogspot.com/

[Gord]

Blue skies, warm ground and clear water wherever you go now, Frank.

My condolences to everyone.

[Zen21Tao]

It is indeed sad that he couldn't overcome his inner deamons.

RIP, Frank. And, my condolences to any family and friends he left behind.

[losoj30@yahoo.com]

R.I.P.

[MatthewVanitas]

Not to be trite, and certainly not to blame those who knew him:

This is a great reminder to be good to other people. You can never tell when just being kind to someone can make them feel special in life, and how badly some people might need some kindness.


-MV

[2TransAms]

Damn. RIP brother.

Matthew is right. I've had people close to me take their lives, sometimes there were warning signs, sometimes it was out of the blue. But either way it's never easy to deal with, and you will always wonder what you should have done differently.

A very sad end for, by all accounts, a fine young man.

[Sylvan-Forge]

Well said MatthewVanitas.

Rest in peace Stiletto Null. Godspeed.

[Noc]

Another member of Theotherside here.

Godspeed Frank. I hope you find what you were looking for. We're going to miss you terribly.

[nramember2]

Didn't know him. It is hard to understand what leads someone to this. I really feel bad for the friends and family.

[hso]

There is no "blame" in a situation like this. Someone's personal pain was so great that they saw no end to it except in death. Tragic.

For all who post here remember to tread softly. His friends will read what you post. His family may as well. Show the respect you would hope to be granted.

[Number 6]

Prayers sent. Rest in peace brother.

[gunsmith]

maybe if one of us is on that forum he could send her a link to this one?

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2324781&perpage=40&pagenumber=15



DramaLlama



From his sister

quote:

To everyone who is writing now, thank you for the warm thoughts. -
(except the three *******s out there making rude remarks - may your (BLANK) souls will burn in hell and I hope you have majorly hosed up poo poo happen to you cuz you deserve it.)

I have no idea how you all heard so quickly but it's greatly appreciated that you all care. And thank you to the person who is taking care of all his pictures and stuff. We'll be heading up to Raleigh again sometime but I'm not sure when, to get the remainder of his stuff.

I'm Frank's older sister who was, unfortunately, rarely around for him, being so busy with a surgical residency and on the road to saving no one worthwhile. His parents and his sisters all loved him very much and my sister and I always told him how bright and how much smarter he was than we were, and that he was a far better human being than I would ever be. But he obviously wasn't listening. We have a thousand regrets and millions of things we wish we had done but it's all too late now. I miss him terribly - he was a wonderful brother. Words just aren't enough.

please feel free to email me for contact info for my family. I don't feel comfortable placing our address on an open forum. Thank you all again for your thoughts. I hope that Frank can see these messages from a better place.

With love

[skinnyguy]

I have been dealing with depression since I was about 13. It wasn't until my mid-twenties that I found out what the h**l was wrong with me. It was at that time in my life when I was ready to cash it all in. THAT is how I found out I suffered from depression.

It is a terrible life to lead. No matter how good things are, you cannot enjoy anything. You can't enjoy your job, your house, or your family. Vacations are burdens, money problems are seemingly insurmountable, for single people, finding a date is harder than trying to fly with nothing but your arms and a couple of feather dusters. Nothing brings you pride, nothing makes you happy, misery is your only company.

I know this sounds overstated. I assure you, it is not!!!! If anything, it is sorely UNDERstated.

BUT THERE IS HELP!!! Go to your family doctor. Tell your doc what you are going through! Call your local mental health department, they can direct you to somebody.

I am now 43, under treatment for my depression, and things are not perfect. They should be, but they aren't. BUT I"M OK!!! Since my counseling in my twenties, I've found and BELIEVE that suicide is not an answer, it's not an option. Because though you think you are ending your pain, the pain for the ones who love you, (and there are people who love you) will only begin.

I wish his family, friends, and acquaintences fast peace and recovery from their pain and loss. As terrible as it is, he made his choice, believe with him that he has found his peace.

[kungfuhippie]

I can not imagine the pain and anguish Frank's family and friends are feeling.

I pray that Heavenly Father will comfort them.

I can tell from what I've read many people cared about Frank and considered him a friend.

I hope we can all learn a final lesson from Frank. Call up a friend and tell them you care. Let that person you've neglected know you care. Mend bridges that were burnt. Lets all do something good and help our brothers and sisters.

God loves his children.
God loves Frank.

[sm]

My sincere condolences to family and friends of Stiletto Null.


Stiletto Null being a member of The Highroad is part of The Highroad Family, remember this.

Welcome to our new members that found THR under such circumstances.
I extend this Welcome to any Family or other friends that may join THR because of this loss.

My apologies to family and friends for what I am about to type.

Those lurking, and thinking about registering to post anything negative - don't!
This is The Highroad, we have our Standards and WE take care of family.
Stiletto Null is THR family.

THR does not condone certain behaviors , nor do we do forum wars and we do not meddle in other forums and how they are run, or forum policies.
Please read the Rules of Conduct, one agrees to , upon registering.
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Steve

[Cybrludite]

As I've said elsewhere, my condolances to his friends & family. If there is a next world, I hope he finds it more to his liking. :(

[mordechaianiliewicz]

RIP to Stiletto Null, Frank Chen.

It's because of him that I even ever considered buying a Mosin/Nagant. I know it's not much of a connection, him to me. But every single person has threads that connect them to everyone and everything else in the world. Our actions, even the slightest have unintended consequences that effect everything around them. Even thousands of miles away.

I could continue, but I hope Frank is in a better place right now.

And, I believe, that when one warrior dies, G-d sends another to continue the fight.

Somewhere, there is another man or woman who just picked up a surplus rifle, and somewhere out there, Frank smiled.

[heypete]

I...I'm not really sure what to say.

This comes as something of a shock, even though I didn't know him all that well.

Godspeed, Frank.

[Cosmoline]

For all his public persona, it strikes me there's a great deal he never revealed. I suppose the same can be said about many of us.

That said, when you're 21, smart and creative sometimes your own brain can become your worst enemy. Some of the smartest people I've known have had the most difficult time keeping things in perspective, esp. when they're young. He was clearly very talented, and will be missed.

[busy_squirrel]

I didn't know him. Noone wants to loose a member of their community.

[mcwjr13]

My thoughts and prayers go out to Frank, his family and friends.

- God Bless

[atf163]

He seemed like a genuinely good person and I'm sure he will be deeply missed by his family and friends. We didn't know you well, but we shared a common joy... you can rest now friend :(

[M2 Carbine]

That's sad, especially one so young.:(

[10 Ring Tao]

In the course of my job, I meet people who actually fit the profile that Frank set forth in his journal.

He wasn't one of them.

There aren't words to express how angry this makes me. At life, at whatever. This guy seems like he would have given more to the world than taken from it. He didn't deserve it when so many others just might.

[Spinner]

How incredibly sad.

I didn't know Stilleto Null very well at all, just read a few of his posts. A bright star in a galaxy ..... obviously he hid his darker side from THR and from those around him irl.

It saddens me to think that a smart young man couldn't see a way out, couldn't get the help he needed and felt compelled to end his own life. The signs are obvious to all after the event .... hindsight is 20/20. I pray that I am smart enough to recognise the signs in those around me and in those I love before its too late.

My thoughts and prayers go out to Frank, his family and his friends. I hope he finds the peace he was seeking.

Spinner

[12GA00buck]

Depression is a terrible illness. It is something many of us struggle with during our lives.
I offer my condolences to his family and friends.
May he rest in peace

[SAG0282]

I find it amazing how sad this thread makes me.....and refreshing at the reminder of my own humanity.

RIP Frank.....I fervently hope whereever you is a relief from your mortal existence.

:(

[ArchAngelCD]

Believe me, depression is very painful. I guess the pain go to be too much for him. Too bad he took the cowards way out instead of continuing the fight.

I truly hope his pain is now gone.
God Bless his family and God Rest his soul.

[vis-à-vis]

:(

This is awful. I pray that the Lord will comfort his friends and family.

[SNEAKS]

Very sad. I hope he finds peace and harmony. R.I.P

[pacodelahoya]

R.I.P:(


To those few calling him selfish and or cowardly...Lest you walk A mile in another man's shoes.:fire:

[Molon Labe]

<sigh>

Read some of his posts. Seemed like an enthusiastic kid. Sad.

[the pistolero]

Vaya con Dios, my brother. :(

[Rich K]

My condolences and prayers for Frank, his family and friends.

[benEzra]

Very sad. It's tragic that he couldn't see that he'd be missed.

A friend and range buddy of mine committed suicide a few years ago, after his marriage failed. I have no idea whether he used a gun or not, but I do know that he came from a background that tended to stigmatize depression, particularly for men. I suspect, but cannot prove, that men seek treatment for depression at far lower rates than women do, due to that stigma (and the nanny-staters wish to stigmatize it even further, grrr).

I've never been to that dark place where it seems that taking your life would be better than keeping on living, but I have been through some dark times where I could see that place from where I stood. Frank will get no judgement from me, just sympathy.

Goodbye SN. Hope you found peace.

[308win]

When you think you are hurting there are souls who are at their wits end. God bless.

[bcolorado]

depression sucks.......

prayers offered for his family and friends.

[Fred Fuller]

Condolences to family and friends... such sad news.

lpl/nc

[Bane]

R.I.P.

[Trebor]

He was regular here, on the Something Awful forums, and at Kim DuTuit's forum. It's amazing how much he'll be missed on all three forums. Damn, if only he knew the impact he had on people.

[Dr. Dickie]

R.I.P Frank.
I hope that all is peace.

[possum]

no words, i am not a religious man but i hope that his friends and family find some comfort somewhere some how.

[mrtgbnkr]

My Deepest Sympathy for his family and friends. Rest in Peace, Frank!

[cookekdjr]

RIP. How very very sad.

[Linda]

God be with you Frank and your family!

[ojibweindian]

Depression is an insideous beast, impossible for even the strongest person to long survive unscathed.

[03Shadowbob]

I had been down that path before and thank God I was able to pull through. We all wish he had been able to do the same. I have had several friends commit suicide and it just sucks.
God only knows what he was going through and no man can judge another without living that person's life.
Whenever I hear about someone doing this I remind myself to be extra nice to those you know and don't know. Everything you do makes a difference whether it's good or bad. Make a decision to make a good difference in the world today. Tell your family you love them and pray you never have to go through this.
My condolences to his family.

[992]

You can be the most sane person in town and have someting happen,or see something so terrible,that you lose you grip on that sanity,and don't really understand what you are doing.
REST IN PEACE.


992

[220_Swift]

RIP Frank. I hope you find the peacefulness you deserve.

[Missashot]

RIP.
My deepest sympathies go out to his family and many friends.
Also just a reminder, Suicide is neither cowardly nor selfish. It was just the way he saw as an end to his problems. So please be kind when posting. You never know who will end up reading this thread. Nor do any of us know when we may be forced to walk a mile in those shoes.

[BHPshooter]

This is sad. I very much enjoyed Frank's posts.

Depression is the worst kind of enemy -- there is no direct way to fight it, and for most people afflicted by it, there is no way to defeat it -- only a shaky strategy to cope, living one day at a time. I, like many others here I'm sure, struggle with depression on a daily basis. It is not fun, and it is not easy.

Everyone here holds views about suicide, and many of us will not agree with each other on the topic. That hardly matters, though, because this is neither the time nor the venue to air such a discussion. However, one thing that I do firmly believe on the topic is this: you cannot pass judgment on another person's situation or decisions... None of us truly knew what was troubling this man.

And sadly, now we probably never will.

My thoughts and prayers go out to his family. Frank, I hope you've found a measure of relief from your pain.

Wes :(

[longrifleman]

R.I.P.

May he find the peace he deserves in the next life that he couldn't find in this one.

[1911 guy]

Dang.

Requiescat Im Pacem.

[JShirley]

I almost took my life when I was 22. Now, I'm so glad I didn't.

Frank, I hope you found the peace you were looking for. Peace and healing to his family. :(

John

[MrDig]

Words to express my sympathy to his Family escape me. When one finds the trials of life so complex and overbearing that this is their only option is Tragic.
I pray his family find the comfort they need in this time of great sorrow, and may he rest.

[High Planes Drifter]

Poor guy had his whole life ahead of him. What a tragedy. I hope he finds the peace he was looking for.

[S.P.E.C.T.R.E.]

I am active at the SomethingAwful forum "The Firing Range". SomethingAwful at large is a comedy website but TFR is a very serious gun subforum. While there is some tomfoolery, sarcasm, and joking around, you'll notice that there's a 20 page thread about Frank.

Frank was always upbeat and positive in his posts, and even though his first days at TFR were a bit rough (he was posting 34 times a day sometimes), he was eventually universally accepted as the TFR "little brother". There wasn't so much as a hint of the depression that was eating away at him.

The world is a little less enjoyable without him around. I only wish he'd known how much he was liked. Maybe then he would have gotten some help before it was too late.

[VARifleman]

When I saw this last night, I was very bummed but tried to hold on to the fleeting idea that it was some sick internet joke. Alas, that was shot down this morning when I picked up the school paper. Right on the front page, left side margin...

Link (http://media.www.technicianonline.com/media/storage/paper848/news/2007/02/13/News/Student.Dies.In.Apparent.Suicide-2714728.shtml?sourcedomain=www.technicianonline.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com)

Student dies in apparent suicide
After his friends reported him missing, police found his body later that evening

Police in the town of Carolina Beach found the body of an N.C. State student Sunday afternoon, according to police Detective Rollin Stone.

Frank Chen, a senior in biomedical engineering, allegedly shot himself, according to Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs Tom Stafford.

Chen wrote what appeared to be a suicide note in his LiveJournal page at 1 p.m. Sunday. Friends said they found out he was missing around that time.

"The past 14 months have been a more or less continuous withering away of my connections to my own life," the LiveJournal entry said. "At this point, I'm not sure of my own sanity anymore ... I don't feel like I'd be particularly missed, and I don't feel like anything in particular matters anyway. I'm replaceable."

As of Monday night, Chen had 70 comments to his post, with many people stating they wished his post was a joke and that he was not replaceable, despite what he wrote.

Stone said someone saw Chen's body at the beach and called 911. According to Stone, he is still investigating the case and cannot confirm it as a suicide.

"The family has been notified, but I cannot release any other information," Stone said.

Chen was known on The Wolf Web by his username "Stilleto," where he created a thread about his first pistol. He also made several references to the fact that he was a gun owner on his NCSU Web page.

According to Thaddeus Wolicki, a junior in polymer and color chemistry, he knew Chen since his freshman year and was Chen's roommate freshman and sophomore year.

According to Wolicki, Chen was "amazingly unselfish."

Wolicki said he found out about Chen's death Sunday evening.

"Unfortunately, I did not speak to him about specific problems he was having at N.C. State," Wolicki said.

Chen was involved in ballroom dancing at the University, according to Wolicki, and Chen's Myspace page also said that one of his hobbies was photography. Chen's final LiveJournal entry listed the link for all his pictures and the password to his online photo account.

Lauren Phillips, another friend of Chen's and a sophomore in color and polymer chemistry, said she knew Chen since 2002 when they both were attending the N.C. School of Science and Math. She found out he was missing when his roommate called on Sunday to see if she knew where he was, Phillips said.

"We just had no idea where he'd gone," she said.

Phillips said she did not think it was her place to say if Chen was having problems, but that the "very few who knew him knew he was this upset."

According to Phillips, Chen was a "one of the most selfless people" she knew and a "really good person."


And to those calling it a selfish act...you obviously haven't ever delt with depression, so keep your traps shut with your hateful, negative comments. :fire: :banghead: :fire:

[tnieto2004]

It is horrible to think that he was so far down that he couldn't possibly get back up .. I saw another forum he posted on and I believe people were very rude to him on there .. not that it would be the only reason but some people are hurtful and do not understand the extent of their words ..

I hope he found peace

[strat81]

Good journey, Frank.

[Odd Job]

I understand it.
I understand him.
RIP dude.

[Joey_the_Wolf]

Jeeze.... how sad.... That guy was only 3 months older than me... RIP.... my condolences to his family and friends.

[akodo]

I got to say, this makes me really glad of the THR's higher road attitude. A lot of forums get aweful snarkey very easily. In part, I think it is just a facet of human nature to think one can elevate himself by pushing down another, but this is one of many facets of human nature we as civilized, thinking, reasonable people must strive against. Sounds like he was a member of a few different forum communities who weren't taking the higher road, and stuff like that on the internet just doesn't translate well, you can't read a person's face and see how well (or not) they are taking it. I am not saying this kind of thing drives a person to suicide, but for a person in a bad place, such behavior is surely not going to help matters, while a more welcoming and forgiving community might just give someone the opportunity to say enough to get that second opinion on the perminant solution to a temporary problem

[hankdatank1362]

A senior in Biomedical engineering? Gawd, he must have been brilliant. It's a shame to lose such a valuable human being when there are so many people these days who do nothing but bring pain to others, when Frank could have very well helped a lot of people.

Damn shame.

[Black Majik]

Way too sad. I remember some of his posts. Seemed like a good-hearted kid... :(

RIP bro...

[HeedJSU]

Psa 23: 1 The lord is my sheperd; I shall not want. Psa 23:2 He makteth me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. Psa 23:3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Psa 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Psa 23:5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Psa 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

Godspeed my friend. May we all hope to join you in his glory.

Justin

[DarthBubba]

Sorry for the loss of one of our Friends and Members.:(
Clear skies, open fields and good hunting.

DarthBubba

[McCall911]

R.I.P. Stilletto Null.

[GunnySkox]

Damnit! He lived in Raleigh, too. This sucks.

~GnSx

[Atticus]

How tragic. My condolences to Frank's friends and family.

[doubleg]

:( Sad, I guess he felt it was his time.

[kd7nqb]

He is in our prayers, really a sad situation all around. I know its a bit cold but I just hope this doesnt get used against gun owners as a guns cause suicide crap.

[Joe Gunns]

Very sad! My prayers for his family and friends.
James

[ArfinGreebly]

Remember the good that he brought to us.

And remember this: No kindness is ever wasted.

So long, Frank.

You are missed.

[Gordon Fink]

I had admired his photography … and his growing surplus collection.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/StilettoOne/Guns/M39/M39Scout.jpg

Such a shame. :(

I reject suicide as a “solution,” but I can’t pretend to understand what emotional pain he must have suffered. His final choice puts my own problems into their properly trivial perspective.

~G. Fink

[Quintin Likely]

"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who've died; rather, we should thank God that such men lived."

Hopefully he found whatever peace in death he lacked in life. :(

[maximus2161]

Very sad to hear. Prayers to his family.


Life is precious. Terrible to hear this.

[Deathrider1579]

Responding to the death of one you enjoyed if from a distance is hard to respond to.
I enjoyed what I read that Frank wrote here and over at Kim's he seemed to be a happy go lucky kid.

I will miss his... himness that he brought to the boards that he was one.

-DR

[ArfinGreebly]

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who've died; rather, we should thank God that such men lived.

True.

Frank left us a legacy of viewpoint and pictures.

We are, none of us, permanent fixtures in this world.

While I am saddened by his departure, while he was here he touched many, brightened their lives, and helped change the lives of some.

That's a rare enough thing.

I'm glad we had the chance to know him.

[silverlance]

I'm quite saddened to hear that. I wish I'd be able to do more for him. He was probably the closest thing to a kindred spirit for me.

Both of us have fn49s, we are about the same age, and share the same cultural background...

If he lived closer he could have gone shooting with me. We probably would have been very good range buddies.

This... this is just sad.

[Orvanic]

peace

[innerpiece]

I think all of us would agree.
theres never a better time to get to know one another, than NOW.

Today Ill think of Frank, tomorrow Ill think of his family.

and from here on out, Ill think of everyone, a little bit more.

ip

[TX_Shooter]

I never knew Frank, but read is journals and blogs. Seems like he was a very cool guy. I found a link about his death and the students that knew him at NC University. I can tell by his major he was a wizard and probably have a great life. I am not sure what made him commit sucide, but frankly, college, being smart was not enough for him. I always thought I was unlucky and not happy b/c I never got a chance to go to college. So I read his news article and it just plain out sucks. The other sad thing is, I never really seen Asians into guns. That to me was out right cool. His gun pictures are bad a%% and I enjoyed the post, comments and search threads I read up on him. Seem'd like he was a great guy, but something in his head had a short fuse.

GodSpeed to you buddy!! RIP man!

*** here is the news article: http://media.www.technicianonline.com/media/storage/paper848/news/2007/02/13/News/Student.Dies.In.Apparent.Suicide-2714728.shtml?sourcedomain=www.technicianonline.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

[Bazooka Joe71]

Just goes to show you should never take someone else's feelings for granted. I've never really picked on anyone that didn't deserve it, but if I did, today would be a good reason to mend that broken bridge.

I didn't know you Frank, but RIP buddy.

[Legionnaire]

Sad. Sad that he died by his own hand. Sad that he appears to have had no hope. Sad that somebody wasn't close enough to see the signs and offer help. Sad.

[KMKeller]

As I mentioned in the other thread, my son and I were waiting for him and his friend to finish on Range 2 at PDHSC. We were there when he got called for unsafe practices. I had no idea that he was a THR brother, or I would've said something to him and spent a few minutes chewing the fat. His loss is a damn shame.

I will say this. In spite of getting called for a couple of range safety violations, he and his friend were both very responsible gun handlers and seemed to be having a ball. They came out smiling and laughing and looked to be thoroughly enjoying themselves. They were both squared away, clean cut and I commented to that to the range personnel.

Godspeed Frank. I'm sorry I didn't say hello...:(

[mike101]

Condolances to his family and friends. Rest in peace, pal. :(

[HerrWolfe]

What some of the older folks should and must understand is that some members are young and impressionable....so use care in responding. Young minds operate differently than we old farts...are more impressionable....and they are more romantic [you perhaps need to check the definition if you think I refer to sex]. And you young guys....life is always great....but it has a few bumps that make us stronger. Bending is OK and expected at times....don't let yourselves be pushed into fault finding, old fart status too soon for your own good! Only after you gain old fart status are you privilidged to take your own lives, but you gotta pay the dues first, which only the old farts can tell you is paid up. RIP.

[karz10]

Wow, I'm new here... I was just reading the other post, enjoying the video he and his roommate made, and noticed he was a 'neighbor' I still live in the region, but used to live in Raleigh specifically for several years, so I was glad to see someone else on the forum from there...then the thread took a turn, I had to doubletake to figure out they were talking about the threadstarter...

Depression sucks, I'm sorry for him and his loved ones, my prayers go out to them.

So many things I'd like to say, but can't find the words...

Karz

[denfoote]

My heart goes out to his family.
Unfortunately, I DO know how you feel. I lost a very dear friend and shooting buddy to suicide two years ago. The pain is almost unbearable, but, with God's help, you get through it!!!

[CSA 357]

sad to hear this, you never know what a person is dealing with or what could push them to this, just a shame he didnt get some help and move on past it, my thoughts are with his friends and family csa:(

[carterbeauford]

:confused: I only talked to the man once or twice but he seemed like a cool guy and upstanding member.

shame that we lost one of our own, RIP buddy.

[Glockfan.45]

RIP to Stiletto Null, Frank Chen. May you find the peace in death that you could not find in life. My heart goes out to his family in their moment of grief , and I hope they can find the strength to overcome this tragic time in their lives.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/StilettoOne/MilsurpTactical.jpg

[Mikee Loxxer]

Rest in Peace Frank Chen

[Mjoilner1911]

May flights of Valkyeries carry you home....

[PILMAN]

That's sad :(

I know what it's like to lose a loved one to suicide, it's a horrible feeling. Whatever was going through his head, it really altered his opinions on anything positive during those last moments. Hopefully he is in a better place now. I feel really bad for his family, and at a loss of words as well.

RIP Frank Chen.

[Mr White]

May God be with you and may all your demons be quieted.
Rest in Peace, Man.

[hunttheevil]

RIP
This is very sad. Condolences and prayers to his family and friends.

[ryoushi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/StilettoOne/Guns/M39/M39Scout.jpg
What a beatiful photo. Truly sad.

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Sn and I have had similar interests when it comes to shooting, and he and I had talked on here a few times and I am deeply saddened to see him go like this.


Young men face depression and hardship in so many different ways, and sadly, one of our own has left us tragically and without warning.



De profundis clamavi ad te, Domine:
Domine, exaudi vocem meam:
Fiant aures tuae intendentes,
in vocem deprecationis meae.
Si iniquitates observaveris, Domine:
Domine, quis sustinebit?


In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.

[tubeshooter]

I remember seeing the screen name here and there....


Very sad. RIP, and condolences to friends and family.

[Maddock]

RIP Frank, I hope you find the peace you sought.
Condolences and prayers to his family and friends.

[ThErEcOmMiNg4mE]

:( im sory 2 hear that i never realy new him but he sounded like a good guy RIP

[somoss]

i hope in your next life you find better days and no dark clouds.

[Smokey Joe]

I don't feel like I'd be particularly missed, and I don't feel like anything in particular matters anyway. I'm replaceable.

Beg to differ:
Never knew you but I miss you. Everything matters, sooner or later. It is the job of science to figure out how and why. Each human is unique and special.

SN, it's been said a lot, above; I too hope you find the peace you were seeking.

My heart goes out to his family.

[Dorryn]

Id be lying if i said id never held a loaded gun to my head... so I understand what he must have been feeling. A shame he couldnt see what he meant to so many he never met. Depression is a powerful force.

May he Rest In Peace

[ReadyontheRight]

RIP Stiletto.

Another way of saying what others have said, one of my favorite musical quotes:

"...if it's a question of to be or not to be, I'll put on my boots and go see what I can see..."

[Spinner]

The saddest aspect of this to me is that I can clearly see that this cognizant, bright young man meant more to the folks here than he thought he did. Frank clearly touched lives across the globe, his photographs, his reasoned argument and his personality have obviously made a huge impression on this community.

He will be missed, he isn't replaceable ..... the saddest fact is that he never realised what we are all expressing now that he's gone.

Personally ..... I feel that I failed Frank by not sharing with him how much a bright young man with talent, independent thought and an active mind means to me, this community and the world.

The High Road means a lot to me ..... every single member. THR is indeed a family ... a group of like-minded individuals. Argument, debate, ideas, exchange .... its all important. Each individual is important .... not just an oxygen user. Never forget that we each have a part to play, and I appreciate each and every one of you and the impact y'all have on my life.

Spinner

[Snap]

Damn, I will miss his threads on The Other Side forums for wild gun ideas. Truly a shame. Read through a bit of his LiveJournal, and am mystified. Seemed like a pretty average guy. Well, I will lift a glass in his honor tonight.

May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of His hand.

(The Irish in me comes out at moments like this, folks.)

[Mannlicher]

Thats just so wrong. My condolences to his family and friends.

[imprezagm4]

John 14:1-3
"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."

RIP

[Matt King]

Rest in Peace.

[Navy joe]

Frank, I hope you have found the peace that eluded you here.

I didn't know the man, just read some of his posts, but I feel like I have been there. As good as my life has been I have wanted to kill myself way too many times; I think I have gotten past that. What worked for me is remembering that there was always something to live for. For a time when I was divorced I did not talk to my parents for nearly a year, really talked to no one outside of work and my early days on TFL. Even then, I thought of what the people that worked for me would think. There were several times when I got past the bad thoughts because I knew that no one would find out for a long time and my cat would starve to death in the house. Yeah, I lived for a cat that wasn't even really mine.

Since then, I have made it my firm belief that no parent should ever have to survive the death of a child. As long as my parents live I will too. Even when I hate the women in my life I realize that it would hurt them, maybe not at the time, but years later. I cannot judge Frank, I have been too close myself. I try to remember that no man heals himself by wounding another. I try to find a reason every day that life is good.

If you are reading this thread because you too are lost and want to move on from this world, please try to find something to live for. For me competitive shooting saved my life. I was out of the house several nights a week at the range, off every weekend to compete, I thought about something other than my self and my pain. Please, try to get out and live, there is too much to do in this world.

[Stevie-Ray]

Condolences to his family and friends. May his soul rest in eternal peace.

[nplant]

Godspeed.

[mbs357]

Don't know if anyone else posted in here but first post was missing his DA account:
http://stilettonull.deviantart.com/

[jlbraun]

Haven't heard anyone else say this, so I will:

Is it making anyone else uncomfortable looking at the pictures he took of the firearm he likely killed himself with?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/StilettoOne/Guns/CZ82/Product.jpg

I know, I know, tools is tools. But still... :(

I'm very sad for the guy and his family. Rest in peace, sir.

[carterbeauford]

Is it making anyone else uncomfortable looking at the pictures he took of the firearm he likely killed himself with?

I see what you mean, but you're right, tools are tools.

Don't take this the wrong way, but at least he carried his decision out successfully, the last thing a family needs is a vegetable resulting from a failed suicided attempt. My dad knew a guy who shot himself in the head with a .22LR, blind and in a wheelchair but still alive.

[BullfrogKen]

jlbraun said: Haven't heard anyone else say this, so I will:

Is it making anyone else uncomfortable looking at the pictures he took of the firearm he likely killed himself with?

No. I get uncomfortable looking at the pictures of him. Especially the ones where he looks so happy, so full of life, and I wonder what it is that made him give up. I wonder why he didn't ask for help; he was so transparent in every other way on line, and in life according to those who knew him and loved him.

The only thoughts I have about that gun are that it was his birthday present just a few weeks ago. Usually such things made a young man happy. And I find it bitter irony that he used it to end his life. But, I'd feel the same way about a Buck knife, or a bottle of booze, or a string from a guitar.


What a tragedy. You were an intriguing young man, Frank. You seemed so self assured, especially in how you took ridicule and turned it around so deftly. You were able to make others laugh, not at you, but with you, even when you were ridiculed. And it made those folks respect you, and endeared you to others.

I hope you found your peace.

[carterbeauford]

http://media.www.technicianonline.com/media/storage/paper848/news/2007/02/13/News/Student.Dies.In.Apparent.Suicide-2714728.shtml

[doubleg]

He was a very talented photographer.
:(

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/170/9/5/002_by_StilettoNull.jpg

[DogBonz]

and i didn't really know what to say, especially since other members said that his family and friends would be reading what was posted. I didn't know him, except that I talked to him in a few threads and he was respectful and enthusiastic about firearms.

Is it making anyone else uncomfortable looking at the pictures he took of the firearm he likely killed himself with?

No. If that was the gun that he used, it was most likely that it held some special meaning to him. When someone who is a firearms enthusiast uses a firearm to end their existence, it is usually their favorite piece in their collection. We all have favorite pieces in our collection, and they are our favorites for only reasons known to us, and sometimes, not even to us. Therefore, those of us looking for a candle in this dark moment can see his choice to use this particular gun as his last act of self expression.

When a very good friend of mine, oddly enough while we were in college, chose to end his existence, he did it with his Beretta 92, which was his prized possession. I took a small measure of comfort knowing that he left this world with his hand on something that he loved, almost like he walked down that road with a friend. It might not seem like much, but sometimes when we are desperate for answers we find the strangest things comforting.

I don't know... maybe I'm being inappropriate, but I don't mean any harm. I hope Frank finds the peace in the next world that he could not find in this one, and that his family and friends find a way to get through these hard times.

-Fred

[PirateJoe]

Its really really sad. I didn't have much interaction with him, but I always loved his surplus rifle pictures.

But at least we know what happened, and we can all send our condolences. How many other posters just disappear out of the blue? How many had family who never knew about their online life? I'm sure many of them moved on, but its just unnerving. Thinking of Stiletto_Null makes me think of what could have happened to any number of users who just stop posting.

[Lebben-B]

Clear skies, Quiet winds and Soft Landings...RIP, Bro.

Mike

[shaggycat]

My thoughts and prayers to the family. :(

[armoredman]

Rest in peace, fellow traveler.
Prayer sent for the journeying soul.

[Davo]

Very sad. Im sorry he felt that way and for the pain of his family and friends. The internet adds a new dimension this kind of thing.

[TX_Shooter]

I found him here. wow

Link removed by moderator.

[Professor K]

Huh, he got on ED?

Well, the article wasnt too bad, ED sometimes does get pretty nasty. Uncyclopedia is better, I think.

I'd be honored if I offed myself and got my own "I told u i was hardcore" pic like that, though. Other people prolly wouldnt, though. From what I get from Frank, even though I didnt know him, and didnt really know of him before he killed himself, he seems like he'd laugh at it, too.

If you're all thinking of leaving comments about how horrible it is ED is making fun of it, don't. ED will just make fun of it more. Trust me, I know how ED works.

EDIT
I think the best advice is dont feed the trolls. ED is basically a big troll encyclopedia. Nothing is sacred to them, but it's hard to really defeat a troll, especially if the troll owns the site. So look at it, and move along. They werent nearly as bad with his death as other people's deaths.

[boredelmo]

Whats ED?

[bogie]

*** is that ED ****?

If I wasn't an avowed pacifist, I'd be hunting.

[12-34hom]

How sad and tragic.

I never new you Frank, but i will say a prayer for your everlasting soul.

The Lord will cradel you in his arms, and the peace and bliss that no mortal man can know will be yours.

12-34hom.

[Nematocyst]

What I felt upon learning of SN's death...
Why? So pointless.

Too much like Kurt Cobain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain).

I'm so happy
Cause today I found my friends
They're in my head

I'm so ugly
But that's ok, 'cause so are you
We've broke our mirrors
Sunday morning
Is everyday for all I care
And I'm not scared
Light my candles
In a daze 'cause I've found god

[skud_dusty]

I've seen a couple of his vids on youtube before. I've had a couple of friends commit suicide, and I know how tough it is. I hope and pray for peace throughout his friends and family :(

[FMJMIKE]

My father committed suicide when I was 6 months old. It took me years to get over it. I definitely understand the pain and suffering he went through. The world can be a cold place. Luckily as I got older my depression and pain lessened. A smile is sometimes just a mask for the pain. People like him don't always express how they really feel until it is too late. PLEASE don't feel like any of you are responsible for this fine young mans death. Just take more time with your friends that are still here......... Life is as good as you make it.
Mike...........

[Rick479]

I didn't know Frank but I've had family members and friends take their own lives. The joy, friendship and love that they shared with me throughout the time they were here was priceless. The sadness I felt and feel now that they are gone is painful to say the least.

Frank took his own life, but especially from reading many of the posts in THR, I see that he did bring joy to many people whose lives he touched. If only he could have seen that the world was a better place with him here than not. His was not a wasted life, it was a waste of what should have been left of a longer, happier life for Frank and those that knew him. I never knew him... yet I hurt for him and those that did.

Rest easy Frank. May you find peace in the hereafter that you could not find on here. My sincerest condolences to his family and friends.

[waynedm]

Interesting picture deal he had on his Photobucket.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/StilettoOne/akani27wv9ly.gif

[The Soup Nazi]

I knew Stiletto before THR actually. I even played several rounds with the guy on Red Orchestra. True shame.

[Tsonda]

R.I.P.

[gunNoob]

That is so sad. Hope he is in a better place....

[LeoC]

I just learned of Frank's passing, so I'm sorry if this brings back painful memories.

Frank, you are missed by your High Road family. I'm so sorry you couldn't overcome the demon of depression. I have fought that demon too and know how hard it is.

Nobody has mentioned that Frank, out of the goodness of his heart, ran a Group Buy selling range safety equipment at incredibly low prices. My wife wears the shooting glasses we got from Stiletto Null every time she goes out to the range. Now I will think of you, Frank, every time I see those glasses. You're a good man and are missed dearly.

RIP friend

[MikePGS]

oh no thats awful:( I was actually looking for that thread he posted about his first handgun awhile ago and i couldn't remember who posted it... its a shame in his videos he seems to be enjoying himself, even cracking jokes about his friend... poor guy, he will definitely be missed :(

[PX15]

Well, here's my two c worth..

In a large percentage of cases I think it is depression...... Severe Depression, pure and simple.


J. Pomeroy

[AaronE]

I've not walked that close to the line as to understand what goes through ones mind at that time in life. But I"ve been close enough to see it from where I was...and I watched a good friend succumb while out of reach of all of us...the black dogs are hard to back off. I've fought them from time to time.

I'll not judge Frank, but instead pray that he and his family find some peace.

Biker
Amen Brother.

Aaron Everett

[cbsbyte]

Really sad to find out about his death. His reviews and photos of the CZ-82 pistol, helped me to decide to buy one this past week. Then to find out about his death today. How very unfortunate for his friends and family.
Ugh, I read his Livejournal suicide note, and then the comments section. The comment section is just too hard to read, too many racist bigoted jokes about his death. Some people went so far to blame his death on the guns. The people that made those comments really need to be taken out of the gene pool.

[Nematocyst]

Glad to see this thread revived.

In memory.

Recursion ... .. .

[M92FS]

R.I.P. Frank. :(

may you find happiness and serenity.

godspeed.

[Gustav]

I'm gratefull for his life and the time and talent he shared so freely.
Having read many of his posts and enjoyed his pictures I always admired his youthfull enthusiam for our sport and his ability for taking great pictures.
He gave us all something and touched allot more peoples lives than he could have known.
Upon hearing of his passing it really hit home at a difficult time in my life and is in a way responsible for me becoming an active member and no longer being a lurker.
THR is were decency consideration for others and the good in us all comes out in sharing of what we have with each other, something he did selflessly with vigor.
Brother, You will be missed!:(
I never knew you in person here in this life but in the world to come I look forward to thanking you for teaching me a few things.
God bless you Frank may you find comfort and peace.

[pax]

Deleted a couple of posts.

Seems to me that a thread started to say good-bye to someone who died really is not a good place to call him names -- no matter how he died. Speak no ill of the dead, guys. Show a little respect and save the ethical debates for elsewhere.

Closed.

pax