Dillon 650


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kbsrn
February 12, 2007, 11:44 AM
I have a Dillon Square Deal B with 7 or 8 die sets and I am considering trading it for a 650. I have die sets from before my Dillion Square Deal B. Can I use those sets or is the 650 like the Square Deal B and requires you use Dillon dies?
Also is the only difference between the 550 and 650 auto-index?
Thanks

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atblis
February 12, 2007, 12:06 PM
The 650 auto indexes (the 550 you must turn by hand)
The 650 has 5 stations
The 550 has 4 stations

You can use your own dies on the 550 or 650.
Edit: Oops, I meant regular dies like you'd buy from anybody, LEE, RCBS, etc. (not Dillon SD dies).

Hutch
February 13, 2007, 10:46 AM
The XL650 also comes with automatic case-insertion feature and filler tube. Mighty fine bit of kit.

jmorris
February 13, 2007, 11:17 AM
You can get a case feeder for both. With a 650 the extra station holds the powder check die. Bullet feeders are available for the 650, GSI’s lets you keep the powder check, and others use this extra station to drop the bullet into the case. I have heard fewer complaints about the 650 primer feed.

SASS#23149
February 13, 2007, 12:51 PM
The 650 takes longer to changeover to another caliber,and the hardware for each caliber is more expensive for each changeover.

Idano
February 13, 2007, 01:12 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the Square Deal used specific dies that will not work on the 650. I know the 650 use the industry standard dies like Hornady, RCBS, Lee, Redding and so on.

Even if you have to replace your dies I think you would be happy with the 650. I was considering the 650 a few months ago and I liked the press. I am not too impressed with the powder measure and I don't like the shell retention buttons but other then those two things it is pretty solid. I really like the two speed case feeder and I am a big fan of the roller handle. However, I bought the Hornady AP over the Dillon 650 simply because I could purchase extra shell plates and bushing locally where as with Dillon everything would have to be mail ordered. I am very happy with my Hornady but I would have been just as happy with the Dillon, both presses are aces in my book so don't let the die issue stop you from upgrading.

DILLONHELP
February 13, 2007, 02:52 PM
The Square Deal B uses non standard drop-in insert dies.
The dies for it do not fit any other reloader.

cheygriz
February 25, 2007, 12:44 AM
I've been using a Dillon XL 650 for over 15 years now, and I wouldn't trade it for any reloader made.

Sheldon
February 25, 2007, 01:28 AM
I recently picked up a nice used Dillon 1050 and liked it enough to sell off my two Dillon 650 presses. I don't like the $168 dollar toolheads, but I do like the priming on the downstroke of the handle and the primer pocket swaging.

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