5 shot and killed at naval yard in Philly - Developing


February 12, 2007, 09:18 PM
From www.cnn.com

Gee, what are the chances, since all of this anti legislation has just been introduced here...

Sometimes its hard not to strap on the tinfoil hat.

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February 12, 2007, 09:24 PM


"February 12, 2007 - 5 are dead as a result of an apparent murder suicide inside the old Naval Yard in South Philadelphia. A sixth person was rushed to the hospital in critical condition

Shortly before 8:30 Monday night, Philadelphia Police responded to calls of a shooting in the 5100 block of South 11th Street, which falls within the old Naval Yard complex.

Police tell Action News that the owner of a business there tied up 5 of his employees and opened fire, killing 4 and injuring a fifth. The gunman then took his turned the gun on himself, taking his own life.

The surviving victim, a man in his 20s or 30s, was rushed to Jefferson Hospital in critical condition suffering from a gunshot wound to the stomach.

According to police sources, the man had suspected the employees of stealing from him.

Police are still on the scene."

February 12, 2007, 09:42 PM
Well if that's not an endorsement for CCW at work, I don't know what is.

Turkey Creek
February 12, 2007, 09:45 PM
Well if that's not an endorsement for CCW at work, I don't know what is.
So true but that's not the way the media and politicians will play it

February 12, 2007, 10:04 PM
Local Fox news is reporting 5 shot, 4 dead, teen gunman at an office building for some internet company... zigzag.net or something.

February 12, 2007, 10:14 PM
Oh great, it might have been a board meeting that went bad according to police on the scene.

Now they are saying shooter is in his 40's. I love the news, it's all over the place.

There was an exchange with police, then shot himself.

Police claiming it was an 'automatic weapon'. I'd love to know how he snuck that into a board meeting.

Ohhh, I can hear it now. "Remember that assault weapon ban we just introduced!"

February 12, 2007, 11:42 PM
Our local news is reporting that there was another mass shooting today in Salt Lake City, Utah at a shopping mall. It is really hard not to see a design sometimes. :what:

February 12, 2007, 11:45 PM
Philly + SLC = toast :eek:

February 13, 2007, 06:39 AM
Yeah, but the one in SLC was a shotgun. It's much easier to sensationalize with an 'assault weapon', regardless of the body count.

What the hell is wrong with people.


February 13, 2007, 07:16 AM
What the hell is wrong with people.

Sadly, LOTS. :(

Master Blaster
February 13, 2007, 10:28 AM
Latest in Philly

Police said a gunman shot four people, killing three of them, at about 8:30 p.m. in the second-floor meeting room of a business located in building 79 on the 5100 block of South 11th Street. The gunman then apparently committed suicide.

The victims were identified as Robert Norris, 31, of Newark, Del.; Mark Norris, 46, of Grove, N.J. and James Reif, 42, of Endicott, N.Y.

It is not clear if the Norris’ were related.

Sources told NBC 10 the men were shot with an AK-47 assault rifle that was recovered from the trunk of the gunman's car, noting that some of the victims were bound at the hands and feet with rope or tape.

Police were questioning two other people who were at the building but uninjured.

"The preliminary information that we're getting is … there was a board meeting. This male, who we believe is the shooter, was actually inside this meeting. … It appears as though he was upset about something that was happening in the company. He got in an argument with several other people in that meeting and, subsequent to that, he fired several shots at these males," said Deputy Police Commissioner Richard Ross Jr.

Ross said the apparent shooter was a black male in his 40s, and the victims appeared to be two black males and one white male.

Police believe it was an investment firm but were unsure of the business name, and they were still investigating the gunman's role in it.

"Right now, the scene inside the conference room is utter chaos," Ross said. "You have, unfortunately, three victims -- at least two of them on the floor and one in a chair -- all of who sustained gunshot wounds to various parts of their bodies."

Police said they exchanged fire with the gunman outside the meeting room and he then retreated back inside, where he apparently took his own life.

A fourth shooting victim made it to an office and called 911, sources said, before being rushed to Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in critical condition.

"Obviously, this is a tragic situation, one that you always hope would not hit Philadelphia. Unfortunately, today it did," Ross said. "Our hearts go out to the loved ones of the scene right now, the ones who fell victim to this wanton violence."

The Philadelphia Navy Shipyard was one of the Navy's busiest shipbuilders during World War II, but since those years, much of the commercial shipbuilding industry has moved to Japan and South Korea, where production costs are lower.

After 1970, the yard only refurbished military vessels, and it closed in 1995.

Two years later, Kvaerner resumed commercial shipbuilding in a portion of the shipyard, and other areas have been converted for business and office use.

February 13, 2007, 10:43 AM
Fact: Crazy people are going to try to kill others.

All that remains to be decided is whether the law-abiding "others" are given a chance to fight back and survive, or are to be left as lambs led to the slaughter.

Art Eatman
February 13, 2007, 11:17 AM
At some point we'll actually have useful information, and there will be something besides ignorant speculation and a rehash of lebenteen gazilllion arguments about the utility of concealed carry.

But not yet. THR ain't the Daily Blat.


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