What is the law as far as what you take the course with? I have a bunch of different guns and I am wondering which one I should use in the course. I am MOST accurate with a semi-auto .22 pistol .. But I am guessing you cant shoot that in the course. Anyone know the rules on this?
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February 13, 2007, 12:04 AM
Nothing below .32 ACP. A lot of places that offer a CCW course will let you rent a handgun from them... you'll want to do the shooting portion with a semi-automatic, so that you can carry either a revolver or semi. Once you have your license, you can carry any caliber you like.
February 13, 2007, 12:05 AM
Ok thats good to know. I will most likely use a .40 S&W then .. thats my second most accurate.. thanks for the info
February 13, 2007, 02:05 PM
Also, don't worry too much about passing the shooting portion. Seriously, it's super easy if you have ever shot more than 50 rounds through a pistol before.
February 13, 2007, 06:17 PM
Only blip is if you qualify with an Revolver you are only allowed to carry one, though if you qual with an Autoloader you can carry both.
February 13, 2007, 10:19 PM
Seriously... you will be amazed (and quite possibly appalled) at how easy the range portion of the TX CCW is. If one can't qualify for a TX CCW on the range, they have absolutely no business carrying a gun.
February 14, 2007, 05:56 PM
I had about 50 in my CHL class, including some older men and ladies who were clearly uncomfortable with their handguns, and the only person who didn't qualify was a guy whose gun kept jamming, and the instructor just got fed up and failed him. Told him to try again with a different gun. You could probably close your eyes and get close to qualifying.
February 14, 2007, 06:11 PM
I've got a friend who teaches this and I used to go out nearly every Saturday morning to help watch the line and shoot one relay for fun.
You'll see lots of bad shooting. Some of the predictable worst was always from LEOs who came out to qualify during the shoot. As a rule they are VERY nervous and can hardly hit the target at 15 yards. They don't seem to be very happy shooting around civilians to me. They looked like they hadn't ever been taught any pistol technique.
Of course, that's just having shot the course for the heck of it during 15 or 20 sessions. Your mileage may vary.
You ought to be able to shoot a perfect score with any reasonable pistol. I've shot it with Glocks, High Powers, a Luger, P7M8, Colt Trophy Gold Cup, SIG 220 and 230, a Colt 1903 pocket model in .32, a Diamondback 38, and even once a Smith & Wesson .44 Russian that was sold in St Louis two years before Custer got it at little Big Horn. (1874) Once I shot a Glock 17L whose front sight disappeared before we moved to 15 yards. Never did find that sight but I shot a perfect score.
My technique, based on only shooting it 15 or 20 times, is to shoot a little ragged hole in the 5 point center chest area at 3 yards, then use that as an aiming point at 7 yards and 15 yards. Helps me to have something to shoot AT.
It's an easy course of fire so you ought to shoot very well.
February 14, 2007, 06:13 PM
If you can shoot the gun and if you can hit a sheet of plyboard with it 4 out of six from 25 yards, you can pass the qualification. ROFL!:D IOW, it ain't real tough.
Regarding law enforcement locally, I once got invited to a big LEO shoot with officers from all agencies and surrounding counties involved. Me and the only other civilian there faced each other in the shoot off and I won. ROFL! Yeah, there were some AWEFUL performances that day. I know a couple of cops locally that take it real serious, though, and are fantastic shots and I used to shoot over in Eagle Lake with a bunch of LEOs from Houston in IDPA that were danged good, expert and a couple of master class shooters. So, I reckon it depends on if you live in Mayberry or the big city as to the training and quality of law enforcement. I live in Mayberry.
February 14, 2007, 06:18 PM
LEOs who came out to qualify
Any truth to the rumor that the Texas CHL shooting test is the same as the Texas LEO shooting test, the only difference is the passing grade?
February 14, 2007, 06:22 PM
You could probably close your eyes and get close to qualifying.
Possibly quite true.
If you don't go too wild by the time you have finished shooting at seven yards you have already passed. I tell people that the 15 yard shooting is just for their ego, to try to get a good score, because they have already qualified when they finish shooting at seven yards.
Just for the heck of it, as soon as I get one of the new qualification targets, I'm going to shoot the course through seven yards with my eyes closed. We'll see if a person can actually qualify with their eyes closed.:D