Post your targets - The 15 yard pistol challenge
ZeSpectre
February 14, 2007, 10:56 PM
There is a current thread that asks us to post a picture of our targets. It's really neat seeing how others are doing and with what firearms and it got me to thinking that we could take this one step further.
Here's my suggestion.
For anyone who wants to participate in this first experiment,
1) Print out THIS TARGET (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/TPHaller/50ft_Target_865.pdf) (warning .PDF file)
2) Shoot it at 45 feet (15 yards) with the pistol of your choice and in the style of your choice.
3) Post your results along with a description of the pistol and style.
The idea is that we can have a real comparison of skill under relatively consistant circumstances.
If people like this idea maybe we can expand it out to other distances, targets, and up to rifles and such.
I'm going to the range tomorrow so I'll post mine :D
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GreenFurniture
February 14, 2007, 10:59 PM
Oh yes! I like this.
Printing the target out now. Will post pics tomorrow.
Hardtarget
February 14, 2007, 11:22 PM
I've printed a target. If we don't get rained out I should be able to give it a try this Sunday. :o then I'll have to get one of my kids to help me post the darn thing :o
I can say I don't know what I'm doing with a computer
Mark.
ZeSpectre
February 15, 2007, 09:18 AM
BTT
Also I forgot to post the homepage so I'm doing it now
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/TPHaller/page3.html
Wanted to make sure Thomas Haller got full credit for the neat targets.
armoredman
February 15, 2007, 09:55 AM
Thanks! I saved several of his ink saving targets, and next time I get down to the range, I'll pop some at 15 for ya.
old4x4
February 15, 2007, 11:37 AM
I'm assuming nothing off a bench, correct? I wouldn't think so.
M2 Carbine
February 15, 2007, 12:08 PM
ZeSpectre said, "with the pistol of your choice and in the style of your choice".
I would think as long as you said the target was shot from the bench or a rest it would be OK.
Along with other information like using a Red Dot sight, shot indoors or outdoors in a 25 knot wind, shooting one hand, left handed, etc.
What say you ZeSpectre?
ZeSpectre
February 15, 2007, 12:23 PM
Bench is fine, just make sure you mentioned that in the description.
As an intro I'm trying to leave this one pretty open, if we all have fun with it then we can narrow things down on the next one.
If it all goes over well I could see having a "weekly" or "Monthly" challenge grow out of this where we come up with some oddball (but SAFE) restrictions on the target and/or shooting style. I've already got about 5 more lined up in my head :D
ChickenHawk
February 15, 2007, 01:24 PM
Cool idea!! I'm in, but I won't be able to shoot until the weekend.
PS- Wow is Compuserve really still out there? I thought they were absorbed by AOL and Time Warner
Cheers,
ChickenHawk
kd7nqb
February 15, 2007, 02:31 PM
Sounds like a cool idea, infact it is a cool idea. As long as people take the time to tell us enough info.
I see these as the minumum feel free to add or tell me I am off base
Caliber
Make/ Model of Gun
Position
Conditions (especially indoor/ outdoor)
Bullet Weight
Factory or Handload Ammo
lionking
February 15, 2007, 07:21 PM
this sounds great,it will be interesting to see results.The next time I can go out I'll do a posting.
Would love to do this with milsurp rifles also,it would really be interesting to see what others can accomplish with their's and with what ammo also.It would show what might be common for a particular rifle and inspire to be better.Personally I've already seen some others that can leave me in the dust with groupings out of their K31,which inspires.
Bazooka Joe71
February 15, 2007, 07:50 PM
Can someone do me a quick favor...I just formatted my computer and currently don't have a pdf viewer on here.
Can someone please post the target on here, and tell me the correct size it should be.
Primersinmyshoe
February 15, 2007, 08:17 PM
Did I miss it or something?
How many rounds on target?
ZeSpectre
February 15, 2007, 10:10 PM
Did I miss it or something?
How many rounds on target?
Oh I don't know, lets just say one magazine for now (however many rounds that is) and we'll call it good.
03Shadowbob
February 15, 2007, 10:24 PM
I will print it out and take it to the range if I get to go tomorrow. I gotta warn you though, I am still getting used to those darn hiene sights. Maybe I'll use the PT92 or the P3AT instead.
I love this idea. Good job Zespectre.
ZeSpectre
February 15, 2007, 10:42 PM
Taurus Millennium Pro PT-140 @ 45 feet
.40 S&W w/180gr FMJ (Georgia Arms Reloads)
10 round magazine
Fired Left (strong) hand, unsupported (Duelist/bullseye style)
Combat speed (fairly rapid fire but not super fast)
NRA-HQ Range on 2/15/2007
The very first shot was a flier darn it! But anyway I'm not at all displeased with the rest from a DAO gun and a pretty short barrel.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/Taurus45ft.jpg
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CZ-52 @ 45 feet
7.62x25 (Tokarev) w/85gr FMJ (Romanian Surplus)
8 round magazine
Fired Left (strong) hand, unsupported (Duelist/bullseye style)
Combat speed (fairly rapid fire but not super fast)
NRA-HQ Range on 2/15/2007
Grouping wandered a bit, but considering this is a 50+ year old mil-surp with sucky iron sights that are kinda hard for my eyes to see I'm not dissatisfied. (God help me I LOVE this pistol!)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/CZ-5245ft.jpg
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Kel-Tec P-3AT @ 45 feet
.380 Auto w/95gr FMJ (American Eagle)
6 round magazine
Fired Left (strong) hand, unsupported (Duelist/bullseye style)
Combat speed (fairly rapid fire but not super fast)
NRA-HQ Range on 2/15/2007
Yikes! The P-3AT is a brand new gun to me with less than 150 rounds through it. It's a brutal little sucker to fire and, obviously, only good for much closer range than I was shooting. The other four rounds were all high and right and just off the target paper. When I get the magazine extensions for this sucker I'm going to try it again and see if a little more grip improves the situation.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/Kel-Tec45ft.jpg
model4006
February 15, 2007, 11:42 PM
if it wasnt below zero here with the wind chill, and we didnt just get over a foot of snow, id already have mine up..:cuss:
in due time.
Geronimo45
February 16, 2007, 12:01 AM
I'll see if I can get some results from a .32 and .45 tomorrow.
P.S. If you can do more than 100 double-action dry-fires with a CZ 70, you should have no problem climbing cliffs. Or walls, for that matter.
benelli12
February 16, 2007, 12:20 AM
Good Idea....but My printer sucks:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
possum
February 16, 2007, 12:29 AM
sounds great this is kinda like those mail matches they used to have on surplusrifles.com, they seemed like fun but i never participated. but i am definetly in on this one. as a matter of fact i will be shooting my xd service model, but i know alot of people would like to see the comparison between the service and sc so i will be sure to shoot a few targets with each, so any differences can be seen. sounds like fun and i can't wait to start. might take me a while, but i am definetly in!:)
edit: I just had a thought, maybe we should make this target the new standard for doing range reports so that way we are all on the same page and know the dimensions of the target. so the playing field will be even. this will give everyone a better idea of the accuracy of the new guns that we buy and report on.
skinnyguy
February 16, 2007, 01:06 AM
I have 2 problems, first my new pistol hasn't arrived from the shipper yet! When it does, I'm not sure when I'll be able to take it out. Second, I can only print grayscale, would that be acceptable???
MAN!! I wanna try this!!!
ZeSpectre
February 16, 2007, 07:28 AM
I can only print grayscale
That's not a problem. I was mostly concerned that we were all shooting the same size/style target so we have an apples to apples kind of comparison. Also I don't see putting any time limit on this. Shoot and post when you can :D
ID_shooting
February 16, 2007, 07:55 AM
I'm in, will post when I am done
budlight2256
February 16, 2007, 08:08 AM
:D Ah, now this sounds fun! I will try to cut some paper this weekend! and have the results
kludge
February 16, 2007, 09:14 AM
Let's do this again when the snow melts!
ZeSpectre
February 16, 2007, 09:42 AM
Kludge, it's open ended so do it whenever. Also if response is positive (as it seems it's going to be) I'll come up with some other challenges and post them along the way as well.
S.P.E.C.T.R.E.
February 16, 2007, 09:48 AM
Hey, this is a great idea. I'll print out the target and post the results this weekend. I'd do it tonight but it's dark when I get home :(
I'll do one for my XD40 and my Nagant Revolver, which is surprisingly accurate, and the only firearm I own which has been used to take the life of an animal (possum).
M2 Carbine
February 16, 2007, 12:23 PM
S.P.E.C.T.R.E.
I'd do it tonight but it's dark when I get home
Well just break out the laser or flashlight.:D
I plan on including some after dark shooting targets.
I've got a backyard range and try to get laser practice once or twice a week.
BTW, if you set your printer to the worst Draft setting the targets are very cheap to print. The target picture quality isn't great but it's good enough for a target.
45Badger
February 16, 2007, 01:53 PM
Warming up this weekend!
M2 Carbine
February 16, 2007, 02:24 PM
It's a little chilly and windy but not too bad.
This is a 2 inch S&W Mod 10 I bought in 1960. I believe it shoots better now than when new.:)
I didn't think to mention the target was shot single action. I very seldom shoot double action unless the pistol is DOA. I don't even think about it. By the time the gun comes on target the hammer is cocked.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/THRtarget38mod10.jpg
WestWorld
February 16, 2007, 02:29 PM
Can I print it out at 400% to make mine bigger!?:rolleyes:
Just kiddin'... I'll have mine posted tommorrow.
ZeSpectre
February 16, 2007, 02:35 PM
M2carbine... nice shootin'. Looks like I'm getting shown up already :D .
earplug
February 16, 2007, 02:56 PM
Picking up the four inch 625 revolver off the table for each DA shot. Then setting it back down. Trying to practice a draw without a holster.
Is a indoor range cheating?
dtippie1
February 16, 2007, 03:04 PM
Todays Effort.
M2 Carbine
February 16, 2007, 03:24 PM
ZeSpectre
M2carbine... nice shootin'. Looks like I'm getting shown up already .
No not really.:)
I've found that one of the best ways to improve your shooting is with friendly no pressure contests like this.
Every time friends and I shoot we come up with things like calling "only head shots count", shooting mutable targets, hostage targets, etc.
Just anything to make you work a little at your shooting.:)
1KPerDay
February 16, 2007, 03:52 PM
This is a 2 inch S&W Mod 10 I bought in 1960. I believe it shoots better now than when new
That's good shooting. I'll have to try my 2-inch Model 10 and see if it shoots as well as yours.:)
M2 Carbine
February 16, 2007, 04:31 PM
1KPerDay,
the gun is a whole lot more accurate than that target shows.
At least 80% of that spread is the 69 year old shooter and the wind today.
The gun will shoot 1 3/4 inch at thirty yards but I haven't been able to do that in a couple years.:(
The wind's too high to get a decent group so here's a fun target.
Can't blame those two high shots on the wind though. I knew they were bad before I looked.:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/THRtarget45BondArmsDer.jpg
1KPerDay
February 16, 2007, 04:38 PM
The gun will shoot 1 3/4 inch at thirty yards
Dang!:eek: :cool:
model4006
February 16, 2007, 08:15 PM
heres mine. im not that good of a shot though, so dont go blaming my gun. it was about 12 degrees with a wind chill of zero, and 9mph winds that gusted a little. This was relatively quick fire, i will take my time more next time im out to try to put up a better one.
Smith and Wesson M&P 40
Remington UMC 180 JHP
15 rounds standing two hands
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c197/91nx2k/target.jpg
apachejack
February 17, 2007, 12:57 AM
This sounds like fun to me, I'll shoot one tomorrow and post it tomorrow night. This is great for everyone, no contest, just results from different guns and loads.
Geronimo45
February 17, 2007, 01:08 AM
I lied in my last post, apparently. Will post results on the morrow.
Big J of Calif
February 17, 2007, 02:18 AM
This does sound like fun. Have my targets printed and will put holes in them Sunday. Everyone have fun and be safe:D
vanilla_gorilla
February 17, 2007, 02:47 AM
What the hell! I'm in. Try to get these done this weekend.
XavierBreath
February 17, 2007, 09:27 AM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53484&stc=1&d=1171722159
I have to admit I shot mine indoors, with my most accurate pistol, a IZH46M (http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2005/12/izh-46mthisun-aint-no-toy.html).
Old Fuff
February 17, 2007, 10:01 AM
Well now....
I'm going to have to look up my old FWB 65... :cool:
Peter M. Eick
February 17, 2007, 02:10 PM
I am sorry but my printer is doa temporarily. How about a series of Midway targets. I normally shoot at 15 or 25 yards. These are all 15 yards, 50 shots per group. All fired 2 handed off hand. They appear to be the same size as your targets.
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/single_action.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/python_tb.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/python_2400.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/psp_15yrds.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/pre28_021206.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/pre25_best_target.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/od_020406_2.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/hdt_020406.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/722_target.jpg
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/87t.jpg
lionking
February 17, 2007, 03:37 PM
question;Im printing these out on 8.5x11 paper,is this the size we are suppose to use?Eitherway this size will be fine for me.
XavierBreath
February 17, 2007, 03:53 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53499&stc=1&d=1171745534
Modified Sistema (http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2006/03/evolution-of-custom-carry-gun.html)
Seven shots, 15 yards. Offhand.
8.5X11 target
lionking
February 17, 2007, 03:58 PM
nice .45 Xavier.Excellent,will produce my results soon,maybe tommorrow.:)
with what,haven't made up my mind yet.
Im thinking we should sticky this one...yes?
ZeSpectre
February 17, 2007, 04:01 PM
Yes, 8.5x11, that is why I wanted to use the .PDF file so we all were shooting something pretty close to the same size.
We're really getting some nice shooting here. I may have to go back and try some slow-fire two handed shooting so I have some smaller groups to show :D
Seriously though I'm still not displeased with my own showing considering that I really was shooting at combat speed so careful aim wasn't really the highest priority. Actually I was quite surprised that I didn't have fliers right off the paper (Kel-Tec aside).
WestWorld
February 17, 2007, 04:51 PM
CZ SP-01 9mm shot after shooting a steel match this morning.
http://www.pbase.com/hovlands/image/74490443.jpg
I guess I was tired... not the greatest grouping on my part.
gwalchmai
February 17, 2007, 08:49 PM
OK, here's my .45ACP, 200gr LSWC over 4.1gr of Clays. Out of a Kimber Classic II.
Primersinmyshoe
February 17, 2007, 09:44 PM
Here's my target. Great thread.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/primersinmyshoe/February172007.jpg
gwalchmai
February 17, 2007, 09:58 PM
Here's my new-to-me Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt. These were 250gr LSWCs over 6.0gr of Titegroup.
hexidismal
February 17, 2007, 10:00 PM
Great thread, maybe I'll get out and try my hand sometime this coming week. My range is quite far away from me (about an hour and 15 each way) , so when I do make the effort to get there I tend to bring several ( or more than several :) ) handguns, and I'll be sure to do this with at least one.
lionking
February 18, 2007, 12:18 PM
great posts so far,arghh,I keep looking outside debating.....nice coldfront moved in but,there is a 15-20 mph wind blowing,my stand would be rocking alot so...think I'll wait till next weekend.
Jakkar
February 18, 2007, 01:20 PM
Man, I am a bit embarrassed to post these after everyone else has done so well. I have to admit, I never even bother putting the target out past 7 yards when I practice. I can't hit anything at 15 yards but it ended up being a nice practice for me because it looks like I need it. I was shooting Remington UMC cheap stuff 230 gr.
http://myweb.cebridge.net/elearn/Nighthawk.jpg
http://myweb.cebridge.net/elearn/TRP.jpg
http://myweb.cebridge.net/elearn/EB15yrds.jpg
Walkalong
February 18, 2007, 03:39 PM
Well, since I finally got some sleep last night I decided to go shoot the target. I left ALL my targets leaned against the wall by the back door and cheerfully drove 22 miles to the range.:banghead:
I also could not remember the distance to shoot. I shot at 25 feet, not 45 feet.:banghead:
I marked three little round dots on the backside of a wiring diagram for some lighting controls on one of the buildings we are responsable for.
The top dot is shot out. I shot 9 rounds with my EMP with Ranier 115 RN and WSF at an avg. 1090 FPS at 48 degrees and windy. 7 rounds look real good.
The middle dot is partly shot out. I shot 7 rounds with my Caspian/STI build and a load I threw together to try. WST and Precision 200 Gr. SWC's at an Avg. 713 FPS. To slow and not quite a clean burn. Need to bump it .2 or .3 Grs. 48 degrees. Should have used a proven load actually.:)
The third dot is plainly visable as my shots from my Mod 14 Target were impacting high. Again, a load I had thrown together to try. It shows promise. Raniers 125 Gr. RFN and 700X at an Avg. 852 FPS. I also shot some Ranier 148 DEWC's and 700X at an Avg. 796 FPS and they were at least as accurate.
HuntAndFish
February 18, 2007, 07:33 PM
At the range today. I practice trigger control by using a 1 second metronome technique...front sight, press, follow-through, sights on target again, trigger reset...then repeat. This is how these were shot. 10 round magazine, one mag for each target. The targets were actually upside down on the range hanger so I was shooting high and left today. This is with a stock 3rd generation Glock 19.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/StanAllen/G19_Targets.jpg
possum
February 18, 2007, 09:27 PM
yes, i was looking for this thread and i see that it was made a sticky! awesome. btw good shooting so far i can't wait to take my targets out and post my lousy results!
marksman13
February 18, 2007, 10:21 PM
Buying my first SKS tomorrow, so I'll take my SA-XD .45 Tac and my Taurus PT-111 MLPRO 9mm to the range when I go try out the new rifle and see what they (I) produce. May post em, depends on how they look.
armoredman
February 18, 2007, 10:30 PM
If I can squeeze the nickle tomorrow....
Geronimo45
February 18, 2007, 10:31 PM
Alrighty. No picture available, since results wasn't so great. Four rounds of .45 hit it (still getting used to the thing, have a pretty rotten flinch) - top and bottom ends of the 10-ring, two on the six ring - the other three were south of the target, but still on paper. The .32... seemed to hit on target, at random points - 1 10 ringer, 2 9s, 2 8s, 1 6, 2 5s.
Not a real suprise to me - I know I'm a rotten shot - but I do like the notch & post sights on a the CZ-70 better than the rectangular blocks on the 1911... Apparently, I'm a little better with the .32 as well (though it did seem to have more muzzle flip - or else it recoiled faster than the .45, dunno for sure).
Introduced my 13-year-old brother to the .45. Gave him one round in the mag, made sure he had his plugs in, gave him a pizza box to shoot at. Loved it, and ran back to reload the thing (why do people act like that after shooting their first .45? I did the exact same thing when I shot it). Good muzzle discipline, trigger discipline too. Put all five rounds into the box (eighteen by eighteen inches or so). Seems to like it better than the .32.
Guns used:
1911 Springfield Armory GI45, firing Remington 230 Grain FMJ UMC on a day with very little wind.
CZ 70 in .32 ACP, firing 8 rounds of Remington 71 Grain MC, same day, same target (hit so few times with the .45 that the target was re-useable).
P.S. Both guns fired using the non-rested, two handed Certified Ninjistu Weav-osceles stance.
M2 Carbine
February 19, 2007, 01:31 PM
Jakkar
Man, I am a bit embarrassed to post these after everyone else has done so well. I have to admit, I never even bother putting the target out past 7 yards when I practice. I can't hit anything at 15 yards but it ended up being a nice practice for me because it looks like I need it. I was shooting Remington UMC cheap stuff 230 gr.
Don't feel embarrassed.
First, your shooting is pretty good.
Second, some people talk about 1-2 inch groups at 15 yards but few shooters can do it with any regularity. The ones that can deserve to be called very good shots.
And third this "challenge" is just for no pressure fun shooting.:)
This kind of shooting is actually very helpful in improving a person's shooting. Makes them pay a little more attention to each shot, try harder, hold that sight picture a little better, so they can post a better target than they posted the last time.
ZeSpectre
February 19, 2007, 01:39 PM
What he said, go ahead and post the pictures. Hell I started this thing and look at my first posted pictures. I MISSED THE TARGET with four out of six rounds from my P-3AT. How much worse can you get than that??? :D
gwalchmai
February 19, 2007, 01:44 PM
10 yards is my personal "happy distance". My groups start to open up beyond that, so I like this 15 yard range a lot. I hope I can tighten them up in the coming weeks.
phreeq
February 19, 2007, 02:58 PM
Wish I had known about this earlier...the wife and I were at the range Saturday afternoon...
I'll have to see if I can get some time to go back and run a couple of these targets just to see...I haven't shot at that distance since qualifying for my CCW.
lindermant
February 19, 2007, 04:37 PM
my printer pooped out on me last night, so I used my 3"x5" cards...
1978 9mm Colt Commander
WWB 115gr FMJ
NRA (indoor) range
unsupported, two hand, weaver stance
five shots @ 21' on the left (measured ~1.01" center-to-center)
five shots @ 45' on the right (measured ~1.76" center-to-center)
http://mysite.verizon.net/tlinderman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dsc02056.jpg
M2 Carbine
February 19, 2007, 05:32 PM
The wind won't give me a break.
This is a .380 Makarov that I haven't shot in some time.
Like most Makarovs it's right accurate.
This target is the best of three. The other two are about the same but in each one I dropped a round into the 7 ring.:uhoh:
I forgot, Standing, two hands.
Single action.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/THRtarget380Makarov.jpg
HuntAndFish
February 19, 2007, 10:14 PM
Nice shooting. I may have to try this next week with a S&W 642. Now that will be embarrassing....:eek:
M2 Carbine
February 20, 2007, 10:35 AM
I got in a little shooting with my Crimson Trace Laser equipped 2 inch S&W J Frame.
I'm a big fan of (good) lasers on defense pistols but like any type shooting you must keep in practice. I try to practice with the laser once or twice a week.
The light is only for taking the picture. The targets can be identified without it.
I like to keep in practice shooting left handed but I tend to shoot a little high and right. After the first, circled, group I held the laser dot a little low and left for the second five.
The bottom target was shot with both hands and a little fast.
All shooting was point shooting with the gun about chest high.
All single action.
Fun shooting.:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/THRtarget38laser.jpg
Geno
February 20, 2007, 10:58 AM
I want to play here and I can't! I have bullets, pistols, targets and time! I also just had extentensive neurosurgery to replace my spinal electronic stimulator. Give me a few more weeks to heal, then and I'll come back here and post a couple of "smilie" faces. :)
This is a great thread zespectre!
Doc2005
ZeSpectre
February 20, 2007, 11:17 AM
DOC2005
Wow, make sure you get all healed up good! This one is open ended so don't be in a rush :D
Todesengel
February 20, 2007, 11:26 AM
15 Yards Rapid Fire
HK P2000
WWB 40S&W 165gr FMJ
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/1911-A1/THRTarget.jpg
M2 Carbine
February 20, 2007, 12:01 PM
Todesengel,
The bullet holes look elongated. Was the target tilted back? Surely the bullets weren't trying to keyhole.
Todesengel
February 20, 2007, 01:40 PM
yea, my target stand is 45 degrees tilted since I don't have much of a backstop...this way all the bullets hit the ground right behind the target. The 2 bigger holes below the X are 2 holes touching each other.
gwalchmai
February 20, 2007, 01:44 PM
Huh?
If the target is tilted 45 degrees from the bullet path, which would make the holes elongated, the bullets would still hit that same place behind the target, wouldn't they?
Todesengel
February 20, 2007, 01:55 PM
that would be correct if the target would be 5 feet high which it isn't....it's about 2 feet high. anyway, to avoid further confusion I created this highly professional drawing of how I shoot at the target. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/1911-A1/THR.jpg
gwalchmai
February 20, 2007, 01:58 PM
OK. That drawing is certainly worth reading this thread. :D
Walkalong
February 20, 2007, 01:58 PM
You learned that in art class didn't you.:neener:
Better than i could do.:)
12many
February 20, 2007, 01:59 PM
I have made that drawing my background on my computer !!!! Thanks.
Todesengel
February 20, 2007, 02:04 PM
hehe, I'm glad you all like it! :neener:
ZeSpectre
February 20, 2007, 02:05 PM
Wow, it's a competition thread... but I had no idea it would become an ART competition :D
Next thing you know people are going to start doing those .22LR "drawings"
earplug
February 20, 2007, 09:37 PM
People at my range sit down and shoot the target and the ceiling!
You art skills would improve their understanding of the problem.
Todesengel
February 20, 2007, 10:23 PM
rofl, who would have thought that my highly professional drawing gets so much feedback! :what:
sorry for the thread hijack...wasn't my intention... :o
ZeSpectre
February 21, 2007, 02:24 PM
Okay folks, lets get back on target and get to posting YOUR TARGETS!!! :neener:
Leonardo
February 21, 2007, 05:25 PM
Went to the range today and shot with a Taurus PT58HC.
Hit a little below point of aim... :neener: but the 5 shot group measured about 4", so I'm happy with the result.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/leonardo00/15yards.jpg
vanilla_gorilla
February 21, 2007, 11:48 PM
I shot targets today. Had an amazing day, shot better than I thought I could, and used my S&W 28 and LWC rounds to make an impressive group....then the rain came and I forgot to take down my targets and they got trashed. CRAP!
If you saw me shoot normally, you'd understand how upset I am. :fire:
earplug
February 22, 2007, 01:18 PM
I should have a head cold more often.
All grab and shoot one round.
The .45 ACP's are 200 grain LRN, SWC .38's look nicer.
Electrified
February 22, 2007, 04:57 PM
I must confess that at 15 yards I wasn't sure I could even see the target much less hit the thing, but I impressed even myself. I almost never practice much past 7 yards or so, and even then I only have a total of about 600 rounds down the pipe since starting shooting about 2 months or so ago. Kind of hard to count the hits some. I may have missed 1 on each, or maybe just put em in the same hole. Who knows.
This is the best thread yet.....
Bob
Ruger P345
possum
February 22, 2007, 05:48 PM
i want to post my pics from shooting my xdsc today but it seems that every AA battery in the house is dead and i can't use the darn camera!:banghead:
Tiny in Ohio
February 22, 2007, 07:00 PM
I just printed out 10 of these targets, and we are heading to the range Saturday. Will post results Saturday evening.
possum
February 22, 2007, 09:17 PM
Finallt the planets are in aline. i am gonna keep this short, but i will post a more in depth review in the auto loaders forum.
here are pics of my targets, i was shooting my xd sc .40 s&w using, 165gr blazer aluminum case ammo. here are the 15 yd targets i will save the rest for the other thread. all groups were shot form the standing postion with an isocelies (sp)? stance. keep in mind that this is out of a 3" barrel and so on and so on, look i am making excuses already, and the ammo dosen't help any!:)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/rollins_joshua/target15yds.jpg
gwalchmai
February 22, 2007, 09:21 PM
No need for excuses that I see, possum. That's fine shootin'. ;)
possum
February 22, 2007, 09:35 PM
No need for excuses that I see, possum. That's fine shootin'.
thank you sir!
btw: everyone here is the link to the lenghty review!
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=257462
ZeSpectre
February 22, 2007, 10:30 PM
Yeah, I have to say that on the whole we're seeing some pretty darn nice shooting (especially you sixgun guys). Hrmmm, I may have to make the next one a bit more of a challenge :evil:
NcongruNt
February 23, 2007, 12:57 AM
Printed out some targets, will take them with me when I go to the range this weekend. I just recently started pistol shooting after purchasing an FEG PA63 a couple of months ago, so I'm not sure how good my results will be. It's a nice little pistol, and suprisingly accurate, considering its lightweight aluminum construction. I've mostly been shooting silhouette targets in anticipation of my upcoming CHL class/test, and have put around 750 rounds through it since I got it.
Look for a post from me in a few days!
tumbleweed
February 23, 2007, 01:11 PM
this is usually twice as far as i shoot,i usually shoot at 7 yards,this was a fun challange!15 yards,weaver stance 10 rounds,double action.
M2 Carbine
February 23, 2007, 01:55 PM
ZeSpectre
Yeah, I have to say that on the whole we're seeing some pretty darn nice shooting (especially you sixgun guys). Hrmmm, I may have to make the next one a bit more of a challenge
How about shooting with your eyes closed?
I'll start.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Eyesclosed-1.jpg
Just kidding. This was cheating.
My eyes were closed but I was only shooting from 7 yards.:D
gwalchmai
February 23, 2007, 02:08 PM
How about if I shoot a picture of a guy with his eyes closed? :neener:
kparker
February 24, 2007, 01:10 AM
Here's a few targets of mine, but first the disclaimer: I normally shoot at 15 yds, but due to the construction at the range I belong to, putting in some new 7yd targets, the 15 yd target stands weren't available. So you have to draw imaginary circles at half intervals here to see what the results really were.
I did think about printing the targets half size, and blowing them back to full size in the scanner, but then people would have looked at the enormous holes on my .38/9mm targets and asked, "Just what kind of big-bore .78 cal BP pistol were you shooting, anyway???" :eek:
So, from left to right in the attachments: .22LR from my cheapo Heritage Arms Rough Rider 6.5", using CCI Mini-mags. It actually shoots pretty well--wait and see how long it lasts. 2 strings of 5 shots each; the flier was the very first shot.
Then, my trusty S&W 910, with UMC 115gr FMJ . One string of 10 shots.
Finally, my SP101 2 1/4", first with S&B .38spl 158gr FMJ (these are all obviously 5-shot strings).
Next with Gold Dot 125gr .38spl +P 125gr JHP.
Last of all, Gold Dot .357Mag 158gr JHP.
Also, my compliments to those of you who shoot as well at 15yds as I do at 7!
[Edit] Oops: these were all offhand, 2 handed, isosceles stance.
kparker
February 24, 2007, 01:13 AM
Hey, since I'm new around here (says so right on the label: "new member"), is there any way to upload attachments and then link them from the text? I couldn't find an icon/tool that did that, but thought it was worth an ask...
kparker
February 24, 2007, 01:23 AM
Todesengel,
What I still don't understand is, why don't you tilt the target board a little more so that you bullets hit it perpendicularly? (see attachment for my daring reworking of your highly original art)
chipp
February 24, 2007, 05:50 PM
Pistol Caliber out of a rifle counts? Even with a rifle I could't compete with some of you. This thread was a great Idea. I know I'm not supposed to use a rifle.
My first 5 shots were good. In the sixth shot I started shaking from the pressure of knowing I was going to post the picture. I messed up the sixth and seventh.
I don't normally practice this far with a snubby. Looks like my old air weight had some sideways bullets. Gonna have to look into that.
Tried 3 times with my NAA mini. 22mag. 1st 1 out of 5, second 0 ,3rd 1 out of 5. no sights.
ZeSpectre
February 24, 2007, 07:03 PM
Chipp
You with the rifle reminds me of that scene in "Unforgivin" where Clint gets fed up at missing with the pistol and blasts the target with a shotgun. :neener:
Dont' feel badly about the mouseguns. You can see on my first target post exactly how well I did with the Kel-Tec P-3AT (and to be honest that was my 2'nd attempt).
Seancass
February 24, 2007, 07:10 PM
Well, i finally made it home to do some shooting. it was bitter cold, windy, and a snowy in spots, but it was worth it to get to shoot something. i brought the sister along too. She's 18, but has limited shooting experience. she likes to go when we let her:D please excuse be gentle on our shooting skills, i could make a list of excuses but why bother. without further ado....
Ruger Single Six SS, 6.5 in bbl, shooting Federal Bulk .22 LR
we where both kneeling using a saw horse as a rest.
1. practice target: note even sis kept em almost all on the page and inside the circle. i think some of them outside of the circle are actually mine from wind/cold getting me suddenly.
2. sis is uP first. 6 rounds, i shoot 6, she shoots 6, 12 total for both of us. she was really upset that she missed the target. she noticed she had changed her grip so she changed it back and put the second cylinder on the paper.
3. Me.
4. Me one handed duelist(?) style.
5. And to top it off, pace off 85 more out to 100. Try my luck for the first time ever. Red dots are my hits. i was sitting on my ammo(tackle) box using the saw horse for a rest. my front sight exactly coverd the paper. i think i was shooting over my board for the missing shots. I was so proud of myself. I guess only guys such as yourselves know the feeling:D:D
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chipp
February 24, 2007, 10:18 PM
You with the rifle reminds me of that scene in "Unforgivin" where Clint gets fed up at missing with the pistol and blasts the target with a shotgun.
was unforgiven the one about the bounty hunter that came out of retirement?
He had a reputation for killing women and children?
Dont' feel badly about the mouseguns. You can see on my first target post exactly how well I did with the Kel-Tec P-3AT (and to be honest that was my 2'nd attempt).
I saw your 2 on the paper, wasn't going to let you show me up! I only hit it once.
M2 Carbine
February 25, 2007, 01:30 PM
The wind finally let up.
I make a ultra light plinking load (1,000 fps) for my Kel Tec PLR .223 pistols.
I use very cheap pulled GI FMJBT bullets that have rather bad pull marks. The scored bullets make the accuracy suffer a little but they make good blasting ammo.
The first two shots were a little low, so I raised the point of aim slightly.
BTW I cheated a bit, as my PLRs have two point slings which I used.:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/THRtargetKTPLR.jpg
armoredman
February 25, 2007, 06:35 PM
I'm loving this ink saving targets, switching to these exclusively!
All groups shot two hand standing, indoor range.
I'm not real proud of these, but honesty is ALWAYS the best policy.
ZeSpectre
February 25, 2007, 06:50 PM
Well the difference between >4" and <4" seems to be pretty apparent as we look over the targets.
armoredman
February 25, 2007, 06:51 PM
The 10-5 is a 5 inch pencil barrel, but I am disappointed with my shooting with the PO1. I've gotten 2.5 inch groups at 25 yards with this load. Bummer. Better next time.
ZeSpectre
February 25, 2007, 06:52 PM
Heh, I walked right into that one. :D
Though if having a HUGE gun is supposed to be compensating for something, what does that say about having a really small gun???:neener:
gwalchmai
February 25, 2007, 07:26 PM
Here's mine from yesterday. I do better with the 625 than with the Ruger.
Walkalong
February 25, 2007, 07:29 PM
Well, last time I forgot my targets: sleep deprivation is my excuse.:uhoh:
Today I remembered them and things went better.
I shot three targets with my Caspian/STI gun. It has target sights and a nice light trigger. I shot 200 Gr. Berry's HP's, 200 Gr. Hornady FMJ-CT's, & 185 Gr. Berry's SWC's. I was going to shoot the Zero 230 JHP's but ran out of targets. All bullets were backed by WST. I was trying some to see how it would shoot. It shot pretty good. It's ES & SD's went down as bullet wieght went up. Interesting.:scrutiny:
I shot another target with my 3" CDP II which has a good firm but crisp carry trigger. I shot the Berry's 200 Gr. HP again.
Then, just for grins and giggles, I shot another target (Caldwell) with my CX4 Storm in 9MM with Ranier 115 Gr. FMJ's and N330.
All targets were shot with two hands, standing.:)
gwalchmai
February 25, 2007, 07:46 PM
I like those "InstaView" targets. I usually shoot 3" Shoot & Sees at 10 and 15 yards. I like to see how I'm doin' :D
Rick O'Shea
February 25, 2007, 08:02 PM
OK, first off, let me say that 15 yards is a heckuva lot further than it sounds...
I'm one of those 7-yard guys too, but this sounded like fun.
All shots are two-handed standing (basic indoor gun range shooting), six shots per target.
I used up a target shooting the 586 half the target height high, then realized the 158 gr. bullets that were hitting center at 7 yds were doing their thing and hitting high at 15.
The posted target reflects me figuring out that I needed to use a 6 o'clock hold.
Now, feeling very wise, I switch to the Model 19. Six o'clock hold.
"Bang".
Hole at 6 o'clock.
Alrighty then, physics be hanged. Center hold with the 19, five more shots.
I started with six targets, and three guns. You're getting the only two I'm willing to post.
Altogether though, an interesting little experiment, and I didn't do as bad as I thought I would. Might have to go out to at least 10 yds more often.
45Badger
February 25, 2007, 09:03 PM
"In a snow storm, after lunch" is my excuse! Went out with my 11 year old today to see if he liked a Kimber 1911 .22 conversion better than a Sig Mosquito for this summer's league shoots. Shot these with new (to me) guns.
I picked up the Model 67 (4", .38 Special) at the York gun show yesterday, and ran a couple cylinders through it to get used to trigger. With handloads that I worked up for my Model 15, it did OK-1 in the X, 3 :cool: in the 10 ring, and one flyer. The trigger is a little stiff, so I think it's gonna get a polish job and lighter springs.
I got a Rock River Arms Basic Limited Match (5", .45acp) a couple summers ago, and it has been sitting in my safe ever since. Took it out last weekend, and had lots of assorted failures with light target loads. Then it dawned on me that I had a 16 pound spring in it. Put a 12 pounder in and it ran like a sewing machine today. Not yet a "one holer" at 15 yards, but with right load it's got possibilites.
doc2rn
February 25, 2007, 09:43 PM
I couldn't help but start at 25 yds.http://new.photos.yahoo.com/deamon_keeper
Not bad for weaver gripping a Taurus and no bench. I really like .22 mag don't know why.
CSA 357
February 26, 2007, 07:23 PM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/TODD1118/Im000991.jpg
vanilla_gorilla
February 26, 2007, 11:42 PM
I didn't shoot as well as I wanted to, but I doubt any other day would have me shooting much better
Ruger GP-100. I don't remember what kind of ammo.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/GP-100-3.jpg
GP-100 with Speer .38 +P Gold Dots
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/GP-100-2.jpg
GP-100 with HBWC handloads
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/GP-100-1.jpg
Model 28-2
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/28-2target.jpg
Todesengel
February 27, 2007, 12:29 PM
a little better then my last one...my excuse is too much coffee before shooting :neener:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/1911-A1/Guns/P2000-target2.jpg
slow fire un-supported
P2000 V2 40S&W
Winchester Ranger Bonded 180gr
5 Shot
15 yards
best 3 shots: 1,2"
all 5 shots: 2,6"
10X
February 27, 2007, 12:42 PM
Colt Gold Cup at 25 yards, standing with a two hand hold, eight rounds.
10X
February 27, 2007, 12:58 PM
Browning HP 9mm at 25 yards, standing with a two had hold, thirteen rounds.
A 26 pound trigger spring makes a world of difference for trigger control.
BigFatKen
February 27, 2007, 05:57 PM
http://artworkbyandy.com/223.jpg
Slight wind in my face. Sand bag rest. Goes to show that Wolf ammo is not worthless. I am using Wolf 55 gr to break in my new pistol. It has about 160 rounds through it now and it is getting easier to break open. Give me a 89-3X because I forgot to fire the the tenth bullet.
This is my best shooting. It is way not the best ammo for a contest. My goal is to hit a turkey at 50 yards and with more practice and better ammo, I may get there by March 15.
crashm1
February 27, 2007, 11:19 PM
Here's mine. I stayed home sick today but got to bored to sleep any longer so I went to the range to get un bored. Hopefully this works. By the way I think I've gone over the 40 hill the front sight is starting to get way too fuzzy.
lindermant
March 1, 2007, 08:46 PM
NRM Commander with factory (sloppy) slide-to-frame fit, factory barrel and Ed Brown bushing:
http://mysite.verizon.net/tlinderman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dsc02110.jpg
WWB 230gr FMJ from 45' fired two handed, unsupported. My best five shot group of the night measured 1.18"
CSA 357
March 2, 2007, 08:40 PM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/TODD1118/Im000992.jpg
ZeSpectre
March 2, 2007, 09:15 PM
I appreciate the participation but can we please try to use the standard target listed in the first post. It makes comparisons a lot easier.
Thanks.
CSA 357
March 2, 2007, 09:19 PM
I could not print the target, sorry!
lindermant
March 2, 2007, 09:22 PM
noted - 3x5 cards are all I use for targets, so I guess I'll play elsewhere ;)
CSA 357
March 2, 2007, 09:55 PM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/TODD1118/Im000994.jpg
ZeSpectre
March 7, 2007, 03:51 PM
I'm gonna do it again this weekend with a few different pistols and see what happens. I have high hopes that the ol' XD-40 will make me proud again.
Black Majik
March 7, 2007, 04:58 PM
aww, this got unstickied? I love this thread...
Seancass
March 7, 2007, 11:42 PM
what did this do to get unsticky'd? it was really popular. you guys need to get out and get shooting again!
ReadyontheRight
March 7, 2007, 11:56 PM
For match and target ideas, you may want to do a search on "virtual match" in Competition Shooting on THR. I started it up in 2003 and a bunch of great folks kept it going through 2005.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=59328&highlight=virtual+match
oceansands
March 8, 2007, 12:21 PM
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4799/21targetcg7.jpg
Here is my GLOCK 21 at 20 yards. There are 13 rounds in a 4 inch target.
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9600/36targetpi7.jpg
Here is my GLOCK 36 at the same yardage. Six shots in less than 4 inches. Trust me when I say that my GLOCK's are far more accurate than I am.
armoredman
March 8, 2007, 01:06 PM
Tried again, better.
M2 Carbine
March 8, 2007, 06:45 PM
Now this was fun.:)
I just bought a shot timer to speed up my shooting a bit.
I set it for three seconds, starting with the gun pointed down before each shot.
All went well with the shots being about 2.5 seconds until the last 5 shot string. I got confused with the "Fire" and "Stop" buzzer and also threw a shot into left field.:D
I think next time I'll set the "Par" time at 2 seconds. 3 seconds doesn't apply quite enough pressure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/THRtarget38timed.jpg
ZeSpectre
March 9, 2007, 10:40 PM
Okay so some days are better than others :D
First target was a Springfield XD-40, Indoor range, 15 yards, shot unsupported left and then unsupported right (I'm a lefty). The pink dots indicate the right hand (which seems to wander a lot, sigh). Medium shooting speed.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/0703-1.jpg
Next is me trying again with the Kel-Tec P-3AT. Wow having the +1 magazine extension really does make a world of difference in the control. I can't believe how well I did from that tiny little barrel.
There were actually 7 shots. #4 did a flier just off the edge of the paper and #5 was the bullseye (I about passed out). I mean it's not really a bragging target until you realize its a freaking P-3AT at 15 YARDS! :D
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/0703.jpg
ZeSpectre
March 14, 2007, 02:49 PM
Weather's warming up... I expect to see more targets out of you guys! :D
Matt King
March 14, 2007, 03:00 PM
Weather's warming up... I expect to see more targets out of you guys!
I am going to the range this weekend. I will print out some targets and try to post them here. Great thread!!
MD_Willington
March 14, 2007, 03:54 PM
I'll try too... the weather here cannot make up its mind, sunny, cloudy, rainy, clear at night :cuss: , sunny but I have to work :cuss: , cloudy..
I guess I'll have to wait another 5 minutes, maybe it will snow. ;)
Caimlas
March 14, 2007, 05:09 PM
I'm going to the range after work in an hour, so I'll give'r a shot then!
Pappy John
March 15, 2007, 05:21 PM
Late entry...I've been away from home. Sorry I almost missed all the fun.
Both shot from weaver stance.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1151859/tarsmith.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1151859/targlock.jpg
M2 Carbine
March 15, 2007, 07:10 PM
While I was at it I thought I'd try ZeSpectre's latest 10 yard challange at 15 yards.
I forgot how good a shooter that Security Six is. It's been in the truck for something over five years.
I don't guess I can call the first and last shots Warning Shots can I.:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/THR15ydchallangeRugerSS.jpg
rhubarb
March 17, 2007, 02:47 PM
It's the ammo11!1!!:neener:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=54998&stc=1&d=1174157019
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=54999&stc=1&d=1174157048
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=55000&stc=1&d=1174157048
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=55001&stc=1&d=1174157048
Claude Clay
March 17, 2007, 04:38 PM
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8302/thr001xm7.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thr001xm7.jpg)
Kimber 22 lr conversion on a Classic Stainless Gold Match. CCI Blazer, 50 feet ,right hand. Wish i could do this all the time. 3/14/07
floridaboy
March 17, 2007, 04:56 PM
I'd like to play. How do I upload photos to here? Not an idiot, generally, but not informed on how to do this.
AndyC
March 17, 2007, 05:08 PM
1. Go to http://imageshack.us/ and upload your pic from your PC (I assume you know how to browse through your PC to find the correct pic).
2. Once the image has been successfully uploaded, you'll be given a whole list of URLs - some of them are thumbnails suitable for forums, others are for full-size pics (I'd suggest the thumbnails at first). Copy one of those lines of code (highlight it, right-click with your mouse, then select "Copy" from the pop-up menu)
3. Come back here, open a new post, right-click with your mouse and then select "Paste" from the popup menu.
floridaboy
March 17, 2007, 05:19 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll try to get the the range tomorrow.
bluto
March 17, 2007, 06:46 PM
O.K. Here are mine from today at the range:
ndh87
March 18, 2007, 11:48 AM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/ndh87/Picture55.jpg
Used my Glock 17 for this one
motorheadjohn
March 18, 2007, 06:15 PM
I'm almost embarrassed to post these...some of you guys are really good shots. I'm going to blame it on being a newbie...I've only been shooting since Sept 2006. :(
The first attachment is all SA, second attachment was DA first shot.
The third attachment was shot at 7yds instead of 15 to see how much I could tighten up the group.
Fourth attachment was with the laser grips, just for giggles.
Fun thread! :D
ZeSpectre
March 18, 2007, 09:10 PM
Hey, it's all MOBG (Minute of Bad Guy) so now its just a matter of "fine tuning" :D
Not bad shootin' at all.
Mikeo
March 19, 2007, 07:35 AM
Sorry about the wrong targets. My printer was on the fritz. These are 3" targets. Standing two hand hold.
Try to get the approved targets for next week.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5976/img050zs1.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img050zs1.jpg) http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9290/img053wk3.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img053wk3.jpg)http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6322/img052xv5.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img052xv5.jpg) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2901/img051dq9.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img051dq9.jpg) http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5677/img049hn7.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img049hn7.jpg) http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9507/img048sk3.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img048sk3.jpg)
mshiermd
March 20, 2007, 01:32 PM
Some efforts at 15 yds.
karz10
March 22, 2007, 02:06 AM
Alright, well, I managed to get back to the range for my second shooting w/ my new (first) gun, a Glock 19. This time I realized I wasn't in a hurry and I had my camera phone on me, so I just took some pics right there at the range, which seemed to work out well.
I tried different distances, two hand and single handed L & R, I'll just post the 2 handed 10 and 15 yard targets. I know it's nothing to brag about, except I didn't have any misses on my large target, but am still 'breaking in the gun' while really trying to shoot better. I was a little better than my first time out, and I'm also practicing w/ a group of IDPA guys, which I did after this paper practice the same day, so hopefully the groups will get tighter soon....
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/karz10/070320_10yds_2hands.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/karz10/070320_15yds_2hands.jpg
I know sometimes I'm pulling it down when I pull the trigger, some of the better shots, I remembered to pull in two stages, like pull til it gets heavy then focus aim, and pull through to fire. I noticed when I shot IDPA that most of the time I probably performed as well or better under pressure w/ more rapid fire than I did taking my time on these range shots, so I guess that's a good thing, but I'm open for suggestions...
Karz
Leitmotif
March 22, 2007, 11:30 AM
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9939/dsc00148hs7.jpg
15 meters - my range isn't marked in yards, and 15m is only one meter further
2 hands, Weaver
Usp Compact .40
First shot DA, rest SA
One breath between shots - found it's a good way to control my breathing
The left target was 8 shots, and the right was 6. One of the holes has 2 bullets through it, not easy to see. :D Excuse the quality...
Pretty sure I can do better than this. First time I've shot at this distance. :)
ZeSpectre
March 22, 2007, 11:41 AM
I have to say that I'm really impressed with the targets people are posting! I know that 15 yards is further than a lot of people shoot pistol and that was really the point to the exercise :D
It's been fun watching everyone rise to the occasion!
Also, just a reminder that Challenge 2 is up and running
Post Your Targets 2 - The Weak Hand Pistol Challenge (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=262281)
johndoe1027
March 23, 2007, 07:54 PM
My turn! My turn!
First time with the M&P9c out that far, I usually do 7 yards since I sucked up until today (new trigger work by ME). These are all 10 rounds, two handed, standing, about 2 seconds between shots except for the one that says one second interval. Keep in mind that this is my first polymer compact (first polymer at all) and I've only had it for less than a month. I did this about 6 times slowly and 2 or 3 times at 1 sec intervals and picked the best of the group. None of them were terrible considering I was happy just to hit the paper at that distance.
I was VERY proud of the first one, you know, yelling and hooping and hollering at the indoor range while everyone else is trying to be real serious. :cool:
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7134/32207019cg0.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3695/32207017hh5.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2355/32207015ps0.jpg
All of the flys were all my fault, I could tell without looking that they weren't dead on. I'll try the challenge 2 just as soon as I can get back to the range.
Hey, will someone repost the ultra high tech drawing that todesengal posted??? I didn't get a chance to see this and it sounds like I really missed out.
mek42
March 24, 2007, 01:16 AM
These targets looks nice - thanks. I'll be printing some out and using them at the range the next time I go. I hope 50' will be ok - that's what our indoor range is set up at and what I regularly shoot at.
Todesengel
March 24, 2007, 10:29 AM
Hey, will someone repost the ultra high tech drawing that todesengal posted??? I didn't get a chance to see this and it sounds like I really missed out.
Here we go, I moved some files around on Photobucket...I guess the link broke...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/1911-A1/THR.jpg
:D :D :D
MrPeter
March 25, 2007, 10:16 PM
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o41/mistrpeter/3-2.jpg
^This was my first round with my GP-100, standing, outdoors, at 15 yards.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o41/mistrpeter/3-3.jpg
^My second round, I was pretty proud of, same gun, same stance.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o41/mistrpeter/3-1.jpg
^My CZ75B in .40 S&W with Wolf FMJ's. Not too bad, although I need to work on my trigger pull.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o41/mistrpeter/3.jpg
^And just for fun, my AK GPWASR at 20 yards, 30 rounds of wolf HP 7.62x39
All in all, I think I did alright. I will definately try harder next time, and work on my trigger pull.
Glad I could participate!
NcongruNt
March 26, 2007, 12:39 AM
So I finally got around to going to the range. :) Not my best day. I worked all night and went straight to the range from work, so my shooting suffered a little. All rounds were fired two-handed single action at 15 yards from my FEG PA63 (in 9x18 Makarov) using Silver Bear 94g JHP. I was going to originally shoot with S&B 95g FMJ (my normal range ammo), but I realized during some earlier shooting that the JHP rounds make a much cleaner hole in the paper, so went with those instead. If I had the money to burn and a supplier to buy them from, I would have gone with the Hornady XTP JHP rounds - those things are such a dream to shoot in my pistol.
The first one was 10 rounds, with one flier that missed the paper.
http://john-boy.net/pictures/15y/15ydtarget1.jpg
The second one was 15 rounds: two 7-round magazines plus one in the chamber to start out with. Look, I got a bullseye!
http://john-boy.net/pictures/15y/15ydtarget2.jpg
This is the first time I've been out to the range in nearly a month (and I've only been shooting pistols for a little over two months), so perhaps I'll revisit this again soon, next time well rested and better-practiced.
johndoe1027
March 26, 2007, 10:12 AM
Here we go, I moved some files around on Photobucket...I guess the link broke... Thanks a lot for that, I see now what all of the hub-bub was about. Nice work. You ever thought about going into custom portraits? :eek: Sorry, I'm not trying to hijack...again. Maybe we should start a "todesengel's range setup drawings" thread...
possum
March 26, 2007, 08:48 PM
here is two groups shot with my new ruger p345. today was the first time i had shot it. man this thing is accurate. both groups were shot from the standing offhand, from 15yds.
the shoot n.c was shot with blaser brass 230gr fmj's 16rds in double action mode, yeah i pulled three but i got used to it, and tightened it up a little.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/rollins_joshua/target1-1.jpg
the orange dot is a 2" with all 8rds falling inside there with plenty of room to spare! in sa mode of course! that was the best of the day! this group was shot with blazer aluminum cased 230gr fmj btw!
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/rollins_joshua/goodgroupp345.jpg
gwalchmai
March 28, 2007, 07:53 PM
Dang, Possum, that's good shooting!
Here are my results from this afternoon.
possum
March 29, 2007, 11:44 AM
i am seeing lots of good shooting guys keep it up!
2ndamd
March 29, 2007, 05:11 PM
One ragged hole at 7 yrds 10 times in-a-row. then move back to 15 yrds....one ragged hole 10 times in-a-row. Then move to 25 yrds.
I like this thread. it shows what some good shooters can do with even an inexpensive tool (bersa, S&W m10) Practice, practice, practice.
Okay now I have to admit that I am sitting at the public library (wife is on home computer) and I seriously laughed out loud very hard at he first post of the drawing!!!! I even showed it to the people sitting next to me:D
That is the funniest darn thing I have seen on a gun forum in a long time!!!!
Thank you for making my day with that picture!
I may print it off and post it on my desk at work!! HAHAHA
Todesengel
March 30, 2007, 12:16 AM
Okay now I have to admit that I am sitting at the public library (wife is on home computer) and I seriously laughed out loud very hard at he first post of the drawing!!!! I even showed it to the people sitting next to me
are you talking about my Picasso? rofl http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/1911-A1/Smilies/rotfl.gif
gwalchmai
March 30, 2007, 07:15 AM
25 yards is very humbling. :o
karz10
March 30, 2007, 12:23 PM
Well, I posted last week above, went to range again this week...
Again, at 10 yards, this time 6 shots, I really can't complain for the third time out w/ this gun (my first, BTW)... Got one bullseye and 5 of the 6 are fairly tight.
At 15 yds, I shot 15 rds to body of target and 15rds to head of target, I started w/ the body, and you can see I'm fighting a tendancy both in my first post above and this one, to go a little low and left, somehow I straigtened it out a little better by the time I got to the head shots on the target... I did get one bullseye on body and almost got on on head. Maybe I can start shooting at the smaller printout targets soon!
Still trying to pinpoint it, but still, I feel good w/ it, especially at reasonable SD range.
Karz
paul105
March 30, 2007, 12:42 PM
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/Paul105_photo/M97Targ.jpg
Koos Custodiet
April 1, 2007, 07:39 AM
Finally got around to doing the challenge.
First up, my "silhouette" revolver (Yes, I know there are better firearms for silhouette. I actually own quite a few. Unfortunately I have not yet been able to convince our government that I "need" the licences so for the time being the Astra is what I have).
http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/Astra357-2H-s.jpg (http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/Astra357-2H.jpg)
"Silhouette" load is a 180 grain cast plain base bullet over whatever a .95 disk throws using S265, a local powder (about 12gr).
http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/Astra357-RH-s.jpg (http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/Astra357-RH.jpg)
http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/Astra357-LH-s.jpg (http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/Astra357-LH.jpg)
OK, the last one belongs in the parallel thread.
I'm left eye dominant, but my left hand is very weak (As a matter of fact the gun hit the lintel over the shooting point after every shot, there was no way for me to prevent it, too weak). Either this is a fluke or a demonstation of why cross-eye-dominance is bad?
Next up, my carry gun. I shot this single action, like the previous ones. Lesson learnt -- the trigger is way too light for single action shooting (Wolf spring kit, which was fine in the beginning, but I think the gun is only now wearing in properly). The first shot got away from me completely, the others were also very difficult to control. And I adjusted the sights up a bit after this :-)
http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/Taurus357-2H-s.jpg (http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/Taurus357-2H.jpg)
For the fun of it, I also shot a few pistols.
The Llama XV is a copy of the 1911, except that the barrel is fixed (no toggle link). And it's in 22, of course.
http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/LlamaXV-s.jpg (http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/LlamaXV.jpg)
(Sights need setting for windage I see)
The last pistol is one a friend's mother gave me (she doesn't want to go through our relicencing rigmarole). For obvious reasons I shot this one at 5 meters.
http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/WebleyScott-s.jpg (http://www.dW.co.za/~wrm/THR/WebleyScott.jpg)
Thanks for the idea, it was fun!
Koos
mavracer
April 1, 2007, 11:13 AM
two hands slow 25 rounds 147 jhp's
Bob F.
April 2, 2007, 05:54 PM
Haven't shot much all Winter, and it shows. The 422 ought to hold the mini-mags in 2"! These are 2 handed Weaver. The Speed-six was shot single action. Looking for a good plinking load and 158gr SWC hot load for the .38, but I'll never know if I don't do my part off a solid rest!!
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s110/BobF_photo/targets003.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s110/BobF_photo/targets002.jpg
armoredman
April 2, 2007, 11:35 PM
Latest, with a new load I am QUITE fond of! this one will be experimented with a little further...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0041.jpg
Dadgum flyer...grumble, grumble. All load data is for academic purposes only, use at own risk, etc, etc. Love this shootin' iron!
robctwo
April 3, 2007, 09:59 AM
Shooting at 50 feet, two handed unsupported. Bottom targets Les Baer PII, top targets Ed Brown exec target both.45acp.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/robctwo/IMG_2790.jpg
Trope
April 5, 2007, 12:47 AM
I keep forgetting to print out the specified target and take them to the range, but I hope this is close enough.
Both series are 2 handed, standing, at 15 yds., slow fire in an indoor range. Each dot is 10 rounds.
The 6" dots are with a Glock 19 with WWB 115gr FMJ. (Stock with Mepro night sights.)
The 3" dots are with a Browning Buckmark 5.5" Camper. (Stock) Federal Lightning .22LR. The photo is not upside down, the target was this way when I shot it. The far right dot is 2-10 rd magazines.
ABTOMAT
April 5, 2007, 10:50 AM
I think I made a mistake, my target doesn't look like everyone else's.
http://members.aol.com/abtomat47/Photos/target.jpg
ZeSpectre
April 5, 2007, 10:58 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <GASP WHEEZE> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....THUD (sound of Ze running out of air and passing out on the floor!) :D
mlandman
April 5, 2007, 09:24 PM
Hello all.
I just started pistols 5 weeks ago, so i cheated and shot at 10 yards instead of 15 (I wanted to hit the target for the most part) ;) .
This is with a S&W M&P9. I hung the target upside down so there was room to clip it on the holder.
I will get better in time :o I will post another one in a few weeks and see if the groups are tighter.
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/9561/dscn3513ig1.jpg
sctigerjeep
April 6, 2007, 02:26 PM
best target i've ever done, so i felt compelled to post it, even if it's not from 15 yards.
.40 S&W Taurus 24/7 Pro with Wal-Mart Winchester target loads.
20 rounds with no misses from 10 yards. :D
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45/sctigerjeep/Target.jpg
i only wish i could shoot that well all the time! :cool:
Hook686
April 11, 2007, 12:59 AM
Very nice targets ... I'll post my results.
1st I shot three sets of 16 rounds each, S&W 627PC, at 15 yards, using hand load of 158 grain MagTech SJSP, 7.8 grains Unique, 1.590" OAL and WinSmlPist-Mag primers (about 1200 fps).
1st set was 2 handed, on a shooting bench, with my hands resting on a sand bag.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/dmchinnock/Shooting%20Sports/DSCF1379_resize.jpg
2nd set was standing, two handed, in weaver stance.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/dmchinnock/Shooting%20Sports/DSCF1378_resize.jpg
3rd was standing, two handed. in isoceles stance.
Isosceles
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/dmchinnock/Shooting%20Sports/DSCF1380_resize.jpg
These might be the best results I shot this month. I will attribute it to the easy view targets, plus maybe taking a little more time ... trying to look better than I really am.
Very nice targets. Thanks for the link.
03Shadowbob
April 13, 2007, 11:49 AM
Here's mine. Not too terrible considering I hate these Heine sights.
PT140MilPro
165grain WWB
10 yards
3 mags = 30 rounds fired
deltacharlie
April 13, 2007, 01:17 PM
Hope they have my preferred flavor of ammo.
Anyone else having trouble getting ahold of 147g 9mm lately?
Redneck with a 40
April 13, 2007, 01:54 PM
My SA-XD, 60 rounds from 20 yards, not too shabby.:D
03Shadowbob
April 13, 2007, 02:28 PM
nice shooting Redneck
paul105
April 13, 2007, 06:57 PM
Redneck,
Sure wouldn't want you shooting at me. Do have one question though -- how come that pillow is still intact?:confused:
jibjab
April 14, 2007, 02:36 AM
56573
Well I guess it's time to move the sight again ;)
paul105
April 14, 2007, 11:38 AM
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/Paul105_photo/Target-629.jpg
Redneck with a 40
April 14, 2007, 12:37 PM
Hey Paul, the pillow is just a backdrop for the photo. I didn't take the photo at the range, lol. BTW, thanks for the compliments.:D I've actually put in a better performance than that, just last week. :D
ZeSpectre
June 23, 2007, 10:24 PM
Went back to look over Challenge #1 here.
Man I'd forgotten how great the response was and really enjoyed seeing everyone rising to the challenge regardless of current shooting level.
All of the challenges are still open to anyone wishing to take them.
Post your targets - The 15 yard pistol challenge
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=255507
Post Your Targets 2 - The Weak Hand Pistol Challenge.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=262281
Post your Targets 3 - Long Walk Short Pier Challenge
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=282395
Cheers
Ze
rantingredneck
July 26, 2007, 10:18 PM
Ruger P90, Two hand grip standing, Handloaded 230Gr Speer TMJ's (Win231 powder) 8 shots 1.5 inches.
http://www.rantingredneck.com/evolution/media/P90%20Target%207-26-07.jpg
Mikeo
July 29, 2007, 04:43 AM
Great shooting, rantingredneck. Looks like you've found excellent load for your gun, and you know how to use it.
rantingredneck
August 6, 2007, 03:04 PM
Thank you. Thank you. I'm here all week.
Just kidding. :D
Yes my P90 and P345 both like that load. The P90 likes it better though. I'll have to photo and post the target I shot with the P345 for this challenge. Not as good but still not bad.
cdsdss
August 6, 2007, 03:20 PM
Smith & Wesson 1076 10mm. Two-handed slow fire. I'm still trying to get used to the trigger...
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/cdsdss/1076target152.jpg
rantingredneck
August 6, 2007, 03:24 PM
6 out of 10 in the 10 ring. I'd say you're well on your way to being used to it.
Hell it's a 10mm. You only gotta get close to make the BG soil himself. :)
esti
August 9, 2007, 05:31 PM
2-1/8" S&W 60LS, standing double action
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/estiokojones/gunners/15.jpg
81k5guy
September 21, 2007, 06:23 PM
Ruger P345
Winchester Winclean .45 acp
The three flyers were my fault not the gun
mavracer
September 21, 2007, 06:59 PM
man I love this thing
ZeSpectre
September 21, 2007, 07:38 PM
And I'd have to say it loves you right back.
Hrmm, I'm going to have to go back and re-shoot the rest of my challenges now!
kamagong
June 3, 2008, 01:21 AM
Slow fire weaver stance at 15 yards, 100 rounds WWB w/ Les Baer Concept II
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8365/dirty1911002wq7.jpg
The sights are dead on, it's because of me that the shots are going slightly left. Slowly but surely the shots are going moving to the right as I get more trigger time. I don't think my shooting is all that bad considering I've only been shooting for a year.
DaveBeal
November 22, 2008, 12:07 AM
10 rounds bullseye style (one-handed) from 45 feet.
S&W Model 41 (.22LR) with Ultradot, CCI Blazer ammo.
icanthitabarn
November 22, 2008, 08:45 PM
About 15 yds, on rest. A complete surprise and will never happen again. S. 80 Gold Cup. Usually like a 6 inch group. http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k214/rock46839/HPIM0440.jpg
XavierBreath
November 23, 2008, 12:45 AM
I started to close the thread, it's an old one........But it's a good one too.
I just happened to be shooting at 15 yards today.
Here is my 15 yard targets. Ruger MKII (http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/11/beginner-gun.html) on the left, Colt Gold Cup (http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2006/02/custom-gold-cup-national-match.html) on the right.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa89/xavier-pics/Targetsbo8.jpg
Walkalong
November 23, 2008, 09:42 AM
Hrmm, I'm going to have to go back and re-shoot the rest of my challenges now! and then start a new one. :cool:
Keoni
November 23, 2008, 11:46 PM
Sunny and 38 degrees F.
Meta
November 24, 2008, 01:28 AM
Sig 220 Sport, 50 Feet, Standing, 200g LSWC, 4.0 Hodgdon Clays.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/metaphysx/107_0701.jpg
Glock 21, 50 Feet, Standing. I lost count on the number of rounds.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/metaphysx/106_0693.jpg
Glock 21 @ 25, 35 Feet, Standing
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/metaphysx/106_0678.jpg
Glock 21, 50 feet, Standing.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/metaphysx/106_0687.jpg
kmbrman
November 24, 2008, 03:49 PM
This is from a 45 ft. 10 shot target ,fired off a horizontal rest under the elbows , slow aimed fire, Put a colored center stick- on so 65 yr. old eyes can see it easier. Group is 2 " even and 2 and three quarter inches with flyer.
Fired with M&P 9mm standard pistol. 115 Gr. JHP UMC.
Keoni
November 26, 2008, 04:36 PM
15 yd., two hand standing. 99gr. lrn reload.
MrBorland
December 8, 2008, 06:47 PM
I was about to leave for the range today, and notice a couple of these targets I printed out a while ago, so I finally took them with me and shot a few rounds. Both were 5 rounds shot at 15 yards, standing, 2-handed, shot double action.
Stock 4" S&W 617 .22LR revolver.
http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp239/becke016/15yardtargets001-1.jpg
"Carmonized" 4" S&W 686 .357magnum revolver.
http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp239/becke016/15yardtargets004.jpg
BCRider
December 8, 2008, 09:12 PM
Posted by XavierBreath
I started to close the thread, it's an old one........But it's a good one too.
Close it?????? I SAY MAKE IT A STICKY! ! ! ! !
This is a fantastic way to allow us new shooters and maybe a few old hands to compare apples to apples so we know where we stand. I've printed off three of the "regulation" pdf targets and I'll post the best of the three after I get out to the range this coming Wednesday.
A huge number of the results shown here humble me to the extreme as I'm a new handgunner and have 55 year old nerves and eyeballs to boot. But that doesn't make me NOT want to try this out. Even us old guys have to have goals.... :D
I think I'm going to get out the distance glasses for this one...... :D
grimjaw
December 9, 2008, 02:35 AM
I'll try again with the PDF targets from this thread, but the ones in the picture below are just about the same size. Distance was 50 feet, duelist stance, six shots evenly spaced on three bullseyes. The last two shots were worse from a combination of arm fatigue and a fouled bore.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/3086489730_c389fbea07_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/grimjaw/3086489730/)
machinisttx
December 11, 2008, 02:56 AM
This one is from a while back. 6" M29-2 @ 25 yards, two handed hold. IIRC, load data is written on the target.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b20/imakechips/smith%20and%20wesson/100_0998.jpg
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