HK P2000 Pistol


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DetroitStudent
February 15, 2007, 06:00 PM
An important question for all of you guys from someone new to guns,

I was looking around in a gun shop today, almost confident that I was to purchase a new pistol, when my eye fell on the HK P2000. It fit incredibly well in my hand, and I liked the 40 caliber stamped on the side compared to the 38 special that I was looking to purchase.

One of the big things that attracted me to this gun was "And in case of an ammunition-related failure to fire, all that is needed is an additional second or third pull of the trigger without the need of first pulling the slide back to re-cock the P2000. The enhanced LEM trigger system combines the reliability of a double action revolver trigger with the crisp, precise trigger of a single action pistol."

Does that mean this pistol is just as reliable as a revolver? I am not sure how this works in a failure to eject/feed etc. How does this differ from pistols I am used to ie traditional DA/SA. Finally, would one recommend this pistol to a beginner for carry?

Thanks alot guys

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Black Majik
February 15, 2007, 06:05 PM
HKs in general are very reliable pistols. What the dealer mentioned was the "second strike capability,". In cases of misfires you can pull the trigger again to have the round ignite on the second try (most likely would fire).

If the gun didn't fire for striker fired pistols such as Glocks and XDs, you'd have to tap/rack/bang for the next shot to retension the striker.

shield20
February 15, 2007, 07:14 PM
The P2000 is one of the best all-around pistols available. They have ALOT of great features - great sights, ambi slide release, ambi and intuitive mag release, excellent ergonomics, massive extractor, great fit and finish, consistent trigger every pull, good size/weight, excellent chamber support, a true disconnector, they handle recoil well, and provide ultra reliablility.

Re: LEM...When the slide retracts, it pre-cocks the cocking piece of the 2 part hammer against the main spring, so the trigger pull only has to "fight" the lighter trigger, hammer, and fp springs. This happen every round, unless there is a mis-fire, in which case the trigger pull will be heavier. Some argue it is better to cycle the slide and dump the offending round (I hold it as a non-issue because of how rare decent center fire ammo fails).

I have the P2000 in .40. The only pistol that comes close to it as a "total package" is the Walther P99/P99c in 9mm...even nicer trigger (shorter pull), but not quite as "solid" feeling.

Both are 100% reliable through 1000s of rounds.

Shipwreck
February 15, 2007, 08:30 PM
It is a nice looking gun. Hopefully w/i the next year - the P30 will be out - a 4" version of the P2000 essentially.

Bentonville
February 15, 2007, 08:55 PM
My wife prefers the P2000 V3 in 9MM to the Smith Model 36 2 or 3 inch bbls. It's easier to control for second shots and fits her hand better the the smallest back strap. This gun has been 100% reliable, holds more rounds than the .38, has better sight, and is just plain accurate. I love the .45 compact and the .45 tactical as well as the P2000. HK all the way.

10-Ring
February 15, 2007, 09:40 PM
I have several HK pistols w/ a combined 80,000+ rounds w/o a hiccup....as reliable as a revolver??? Maybe the revolver is as reliable as the HK ;) :neener:

gudel
February 15, 2007, 09:46 PM
my new revolver had some fail to fire brand new out of the box.
so much for revolver reliability. 4 HK's, not one of them ever malfunction.

psyopspec
February 15, 2007, 10:17 PM
"As reliable as a revolver" leaves too much room for interpretation. For example, is an unfired HK as good as a revolver that's been well-maintained without a malfunction for 10 years? Speaking as a P2000 fan, I'd take the revolver given the choice between those two.

Also, with any failure in an autopistol, I (in my non-expert opinion) advise doing a tap-rack-bang drill unless it's immediately clear that the failure to function will be cured by other more specific action. The TRB should be used since it can be difficult to differentiate from an ammo failure or, say, an unseated magazine when the pressure is on. In addition to that, revolvers may fail less, but they are more likely to fail catastrophically (i.e. lock up completely) than an auto. Therefore, "the P2k is reliable as a revolver" is a bit too apples to oranges to actually answer.

All that said, my P2000 has been reliable since I got it, and I trust my life on it.

Autolycus
February 16, 2007, 02:14 AM
The P2000 is an amazing gun and I recommend it. I love my P2000 and my P2000sk. They are the best feeling guns I have shot yet.

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