Have you ever worn out a quality gun?


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firestar
June 5, 2003, 06:15 AM
I don't mean that a piece or two broke that were easy to fix, I mean just wore it out. Worn barrel, worn finish, every part needs help, wood worn smooth, sort of worn out.

I have only wore one gun out, it was a Ithaca 37 Featherlight 12 ga shotgun. I got it from my dad who had bought it new and had not really shot it much but he did not take care of it the way I would. The blue had some light rust and the poly finish on the stock was chipping and flaking off (common to this model).

Anyway, I put many thousands of 12ga shells through it and used it for everything that you could use a shotgun for, trap, skeet, rabbit hunting, deer hunting with slugs, pheasant hunting, dove hunting, pest control, etc., etc.

I wore that poor gun out. Every part was hurting from muzzle to buttpad. I sold it for $100 and don't really regret it but I do appreciate what it did for me. It gave and gave and then I dumped it, it is sad but that is the life of a pump shotgun. I got no love for shotguns like I do for handguns, the more worn a handgun gets, the more I like it, as long as I did the wearing and it was a good gun. BTW, never wore out a quality handgun (Jennings don't count).

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DeputyVaughn
June 5, 2003, 07:13 AM
My witness has processed more than 45,000 rounds. The only breakage was an extractor. Sorry, not worn out yet.

Scott

45King
June 5, 2003, 08:17 AM
How does one define "worn out" as applied to a whole firearm?
Seeing as how most all parts can be repaired or replaced, does a whole gun only become worn out when the frame/receiver gives out in some way, such as stretching, galling, or cracking? Even then, frames/receivers can be replaced (although it becomes a philisophical argument as to whether or not it's the "same" gun at that point.)
How many rounds can go through a gun before the frame gives up in some way? I'm not sure too many people have ever shot a single firearm that much....

I once had the opportunity to be part of a "test to destruction" for the S&W Sigma .380. I got to fire some of the last 500 rounds of the 2500 rounds S&W said was the life expectancy of the gun. As far as I could tell, after an accurately counted 2500 rounds, that gun still had a lot of life left....

Norwegian
June 5, 2003, 08:28 AM
Well not my fault , but when I was shooting 22.cal ( through a club ) I borrowed my coaches 22 cal Beretta...I don`t know the model haven`t searched for it .

It looked very much like those older models of Tanfoglia though .

Anyway I only used it for 2 years...and only during the spring when shooting on an outdoor range...until one day I was going to put the mag into it I saw this HUGE crack in the slide..I don`t think it had been there for long though I would have noticed .

My coach didn`t say anything though so I guess the gun had done it duty and then some .

Delmar
June 5, 2003, 08:35 AM
Still trying to wear out a Series 80 45ACP. 100,000 rounds and all I seem to be able to do is wear out recoil springs and an occasional bushing. To my dismay, a friend of mine who happens to work at an indoor range says they have a Series 70 with 400,000 rounds and no major parts changed as yet. Guess I'd better get to work!!!!

Quantrill
June 5, 2003, 09:31 AM
No. Most date to 1950s to 1980s although there is a Luger from 1915 and an original model 1897 that was made in 1908. They are all shooters and most have seen competition. S&W, Colt, Ruger, DWM, Winchester, Remington, Sauer, High Standard, Browning, Dan Wesson, L.C. Smith, Ithaca etc. Quantrill

firestar
June 5, 2003, 03:00 PM
"worn out" is a subjective term. I take it to loosely mean, when many or most of the parts on a gun are worn to the effect that the need replacement. Often they could be replaced but it would cost more than the gun. Often, parts start to get loose and things are just not what they should be.

Anyone that has ever had an old car that was on it's last leg, knows what I mean. You could fix up an 1984 Ford Tempo but when the engine is leaking oil, the gauges aren't working, the tranny is going out, etc., it really is not work fixing anymore. It is worth more as parts.

Nippy
June 5, 2003, 03:09 PM
Would an 870 be considered quality?

jsalcedo
June 5, 2003, 03:32 PM
I have fired upwards of 70k through my ruger MKII and its
kind of brown where it meets the skin. The receiver and frame
are loose but it still functions 100% and is accurate.


I have read about military guns wearing out M249 M9's etc...

Standing Wolf
June 5, 2003, 04:11 PM
Nope. Doubt I ever will, either.

RustyHammer
June 5, 2003, 04:19 PM
Nope, never.

I did see a guy wear out his Jenning T-380 in one afternoon. Shesh, must have taken him a whole 6 or 7 rounds to do it, but he managed it! But you excuded them in your question ... . :rolleyes: :D :eek:



Good shoot'n


:neener:

cool45auto
June 5, 2003, 08:42 PM
I'm workin' on it!!:neener:

firestar
June 5, 2003, 10:26 PM
Would an 870 be considered quality?

Heck yeah! The 870 is a quality gun! I just meant something better than a Jennings or Bryco pos. Anyone can wear out a Jennings.:D

I have seen a few Ruger Red Labels worn all the hell out also. It seems like shotguns take a real beating if you use them a lot. That is why I buy new shotguns and not used unless I can really check them out before I buy.

Wildalaska
June 6, 2003, 12:56 AM
S&W 39-2, 20,000 rounds and it rattled like an 75 Dodge at 70mph on a dirt road.

WildbutitwasfunshootingitAlaska

Bonker
June 6, 2003, 02:15 AM
I have an old (1860's) gallery gun that is worn flat out.

One of my Marlin 22s has over a million rounds through it now and it's only good as a "wall-hanger" at this point.

larry_minn
June 6, 2003, 02:34 AM
S&W 39-2, 20,000 rounds and it rattled like an 75 Dodge at 70mph on a dirt road.

WildbutitwasfunshootingitAlaska

I used to shoot a 39-2 myself. Mine the trigger got so worn it would double. :) I was using it as carry and comp gun. They got a little upset at my El Pres times as splits were very fast and consistant. :)
Heck I was going thru 400 rds a month 3-4 local matchs a month) from Oct to March. EASY. Plus personal shooting. Got it built up and still have it. Now I use a Glock so it is house gun.
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