Glock 20 10mm for deer?


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bgram
February 18, 2007, 06:28 PM
I'm considering getting a Glock 20 10mm, and was thinking about getting the 6 inch barrel also for deer hunting. Is this an acceptable round in any of your opinions for shots around 50 to 60 yards at the most? In my state the 10mm would be legal, but I wanted to check around before buying it to see if anyone else besides "Uncle Ted" uses it.

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SharpsDressedMan
February 18, 2007, 06:35 PM
I would not hesitate to use a sufficiently accurate 10mm pistol (I have a nicely built 1911 pattern 10mm), such as your 6" barrel Glock 20. Here in Ohio, the 10mm is also deer-legal, and the 10mm is better in bore size and muzzle energy over the .357 Magnum, and that has been taking whietails for many years with properly placed shots. Go for it!

Lennyjoe
February 18, 2007, 07:55 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=228401&highlight=10MM

MCgunner
February 18, 2007, 08:25 PM
So long as the gun is accurate enough, the cartridge is plenty powerful enough. With a 200 grain bullet it is roughly comparable to the .357 magnum out of a 6.5" gun with 180 grain hot loads. I've taken deer to 50 yards with the .357 using 158 grain SWCs.

bgram
February 19, 2007, 10:58 PM
Thanks for the replies, as soon as I can funnel some money toward it I'm gonna get me one, then get a 6" barrel. Just as long as momma doesn't find out:uhoh:

Greg8098
February 19, 2007, 11:26 PM
Get it now, you won't regret it!!!

MCgunner
February 20, 2007, 12:11 PM
I've fired a G20 before. At least the one I shot was accurate enough for hunting use to 50 yards anyway, maybe a little farther. YMMV, but Glocks are generally pretty accurate. With iron sights, it's pretty hard to stretch 100 yard shots in the field, anyway. I'd try to keep shots inside 50 with it. That's what I do with my Blackhawk.

22-rimfire
February 20, 2007, 12:50 PM
It will work. As said, keep your shots within 50yds max and practice at those ranges. Think of it as archery hunting in terms of practical ranges. I would prefer a revolver, but everyone is different.

bgram
February 21, 2007, 06:11 PM
Hey thanks guys, I was considering also getting one of those red dot scopes and mounts they sell on TopGlock to put on there, then I'd feel a whole lot more confident in it. I already shot traditional archery tackle so the closer "bowhunting" feel won't be a problem. Thanks again, Bobby

countryrebel
February 24, 2007, 10:08 PM
No problem with the glock 20.I have had to put down injured deer with my glock 22 40sw at 50+ yards and never had any problems.I would lean toward ADJ sights for better sighting in for your paticular load.I also want a glock 20 for back woods carry when I dont want to carry my heavy 44mag.
Good luck and let us know what you end up getting.

nickE10mm
March 4, 2007, 04:52 PM
I use my Glock 20 Longslide for deer hunting every year for the last three or so years. Here is my take on it.

First of all, PRACTICE IS PARAMOUNT. During preseason, one needs to practice from the field positions that he/she will be shooting from. This is, hands down, the most important thing to remember. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.

Second, the choice of ammunition is also important for the ethical hunting with the 10mm. I would suggest something loaded VERY HOT, such as DoubleTap (my first choice), Buffalo Bore, Georgia Arms or Reeds, or a good handload. Keep in mind that if you are trying to decide on one of a few different loads, accuracy should be the deciding factor. I personally use the DT 200gr XTPs but I think a good, fast 200gr (or heavier) flat nose hardcast would be sufficient, too.

Thirdly, when I hunt with a pistol, at least this year, I used a tree stand with a shooting rest. My own personal rule for hunting whitetail is NOT to take a shot at a deer without a solid rest. That means no running shots and no standing, unaimed, unrested shots. Not only will the stand help give you better locations but it will keep you elevated above the scent line of deer giving you a higher success rate. Ground hunting (still hunting) can be really tricky if you have to stalk close to deer since being that close makes it inherently easier for deer to smell you. I'll be purchasing a new "climber" stand before next season to pack on my back for my extended whitetail hunting hikes into the backwoods (armed w/ pistol only). It just makes sense, at least for me.

As for the maximum range that a 10mm will work on deer... I would say that a 10mm w/ a 6" tube and hot loads could take deer at 100 yards with proper placement -- however -- you need to truly understand the difference in shooting 100 yards, breathing normally from a BENCHREST versus being freezing cold in tne field with a less than ideal rest and stance and a non-stationary target while out of breath! They are completely different. I can shoot amazing groups at 50 and even 75 yards with my longslide from the BENCH at a range but wouldnt try those in the field. I would probably try and limit myself to 20-25 yards with a less than ideal rest and MAYBE 50-75 with a PERFECTLY SOLID rest (which is rare in itself). You need to think like a bowhunter. Get close to make your shots effective and ethical. Please.

Also consider that I've reworked my Glock trigger to weigh in at about 3 lbs and extremely smooth. Keep in mind that if you're not concentrating on the KEYS to shooting, the stock Glock trigger will fail you as a hunting piece. My KEYS to shooting are:

FRONT SIGHT - SQUEEZE - FOLLOW THROUGH - OFFHAND 60/40 GRIP - SURPRISE BREAK

Remember: Aim small, hit small.

And there you have it. Now practice up and go get yourself some venison.


here's my longslide:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9042/p1010036resize3ve.jpg

Tom Krein
January 15, 2008, 06:28 AM
Whats the story on your longslide 10mm?? Where did you get that long slide???

What a beauty!!

Tom

nickE10mm
January 15, 2008, 11:09 AM
Tom,

The complete history of that longslide is probably over in the archives at Glocktalk... It was a fun project. Just recently, I ended up selling the upper for a few reasons. First, while somewhat reliable, it was nowhere near what I needed. The upper was a .45 ACP upper and I had a BarSto 45-10mm conversion barrel fitted. Because of the wider hood width of the .45 barrel/slide, the extractor never quite did exactly what it had to do in order to have flawless loading / ejecting, especially with that tight match barrel. Besides, I completed that project because I haven't been able to afford a 6" 10mm 1911, which is my real true love. Now, Fusion Firearms has over five different longslide 10mm models available at fair prices, so that's the way I'll end up going.

FWIW, I still have my OD Glock 20, Glock 29 and new CZ/DW Razorback...none of which I will ever part with. :)

pendentive
January 15, 2008, 12:09 PM
sweet!

Tom Krein
January 15, 2008, 12:11 PM
Too bad it wasn't stone cold reliable! I would LOVE to have one like it if it was!!

I am also a 10mm fan! I have a DW 10mm Commander, and a Colt Delta Elite; and have a Glock 20 on the way.

I think the 10mm would work fine on deer IF you limit the range and shot placement.

I am looking forward to using it on Hogs!

Tom

nickE10mm
January 15, 2008, 12:41 PM
Tom,

Here's the good news: For over a year, Lone Wolf Distributers (LW) has been saying that they would produce a slide SPECIFICALLY for the 10mm (no CONVERSION required) and would also charge only a fraction of the $550.00 I paid for my Oberland Arms slide (with internals, no barrel included). We've been waiting and waiting... many have since given up on LW. The latest word is that the 10mm 6" slides will, in fact, be out within a month or so. The price (albeit without) internals will be less than HALF of what I paid. There IS a light at the end of the tunnel for those wanting a longslide 10mm glock.

Like I said, though, I'm going the 6" 10mm 1911 from Fusion Firearms instead as I'm a 1911 man at heart. To each his own, though, right?

About the 10mm AUTO... its more than enough for deer. Use FULL house loads and the right weight of bullet and place your shots (just like any other cartridge) and you will most definitely have venison in the freezer. The key remains... can you place your shots from field positions? I was presented with a shot on an 8pt buck this past season with my Razorback (shooting DT 200gr XTPs) but the shot was DIRECTLY behind me and I was in a climber... the buck was only 10 yards away or so which meant that any noise I made turning around would have spooked him. Still, I'm confident that I would have had him had my position on the tree been different. Thats hunting, though!

Here;s me right after walking up the hill to the house one morning around 11am ... it was 10 degrees that morning. Cold day for a treestand!

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2162/img11261cd3.jpg

Tom Krein
January 15, 2008, 12:45 PM
I am actually having a longslide 10mm 1911 built by Yost.... I to am a 1911 guy at heart!

Tom

stevereno1
January 17, 2008, 12:27 AM
10mm is good for deer as long as you are comfortable with the shot. I am surprisingly good with my g-17, and have thought about trying it out on deer. 147gr. rangers. I guess i side with the "shot placement" side of the coin.

stevereno1
January 17, 2008, 12:31 AM
nickE10mm- I hope that is an aftermarket barrel, 'cause shooting lead bullets through a stock Glock barrel is a recipie for disaster!

Tom Krein
January 17, 2008, 12:38 AM
I have an OD Glock 20 ordered. Should be here tomorrow.... not soon enough!!

If a longslide assembly becomes available I WILL purchase one. Use it for hunting and the standard slide/barrel for EDC defensive purposes!!

Thanks for the info!

Tom

nickE10mm
January 17, 2008, 10:05 AM
Tom - Wow... you have expensive tastes ... I like! :D Also, the new slides that come out should be VERY nice ... my longslide could toss them slugs out there are 50-75 yards PRETTY darn accurately due to the longer sight radius.

Stevereno1 - Its a stainless barrel so whatever would lead you to believe its stock?? :P Yes, its a Barsto barrel. In the lower picture I posted, thats a bone-stock Razorback, which is fine to shoot lead in of course.

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