.45 magnum?
aufevermike
February 19, 2007, 12:32 PM
If the .45 LC and acp have been around for a long time I was wondering why no one has ever developed a .45 Magnum. Any ideas as to why not? or did they... the .45 winchester magnum.........hum jsut remembered that one.
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MCgunner
February 19, 2007, 12:39 PM
The .45 Win Mag was a hot rodded .45ACP. Then, there is the .454 Casull which although it doesn't officially bear the "Magnum" mark, is a lengthened .45 colt case loaded to outrageous pressures to give typically 1800 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle, so I say it's a magnum. Now, there's the .460 which is a lengthened .454 which ups the ante and can shoot .454 or .45 Colt in the same gun.
Yeah, there are .45 magnums.
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jad0110
February 19, 2007, 12:48 PM
Not to mention that the 45 Colt can be handloaded to power levels slightly exceeding your typical 44 Magnum.
Of course it's not a good idea to fire such a round in a SAA Uberti, Cimmaron, Beretta Stampede, etc. But I think a Ruger Blackhawk or Super Redhawk in 454 Casull could handle it.
RustyShackelford
February 19, 2007, 01:27 PM
If you watch the great 80s action flick; Shakedown there's a scene where a dirty cop asks NYPD drug officer Sam Elliott about his ".45magnum". :D
Elliott's drug cop was using a big LAR Grizzly in .45WinchesterMagnum. ;)
Shakedown; www.imdb.com
Rusty
PS: A pic of Elliott holding the stainless steel LAR pistol is on the movie poster.
clone
February 19, 2007, 03:20 PM
then there is the 45 Super, basicly a hot 45acp load.
Kimber1911_06238
February 19, 2007, 03:22 PM
dan wesson arms .445 super magnum...or was it .455 super magnum? I forgot...either way it's a badass round
BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE
February 19, 2007, 03:47 PM
Ive shot the .45acp super, it is supposed to get around 1300 fps and the only change to the 1911 I was shooting was a 28lb recoil spring, the firearms kicked like a mule though. I dont rememebr the grain but I beleive it was 230gr.
Ben Shepherd
February 19, 2007, 03:58 PM
It was/is a 445 supermag.
As far as the true 45 Magnum, that's already been covered.
Big part of the reason that they didn't hotrod the 45 colt: The 45 colts were already fairly large guns. At the time there wasn't a demand for a gun of larger physical demensions. That's my opinion anyway.
steveracer
February 19, 2007, 04:01 PM
That's a misnomer.
.45 Colt can easily be loaded to superior performance than .44 Magnum. It really IS .45 Magnum.
45crittergitter
February 19, 2007, 07:39 PM
The .445 SuperMag is a "stretched" .44 Rem. Mag., i.e., a 429 caliber.
Atticus
February 19, 2007, 08:07 PM
There is a .45 magnum of sorts...it's called the .460 Rowland.
Ranger61
February 20, 2007, 12:07 AM
The 45 Winchester magnum came out with the Wildey Magnum semiauto. Too bad the Wildey ran into trouble almost immediately. Grizzly and AMT both made semi autos for the caliber but were only marginally successful. I never understood why the Desert Eagle was never made in the caliber because the rimless case with 44 Mag power seemed like it would be a natural but hey what do I know. I have an AMT automag IV in 45 win mag. Its accurate and everyone that shoots it likes it but you have to reload because factory ammo is long gone. There was also a 9mm Winchester magnum at the same time but I've never seen a gun for it. Only seen cases on rare occasions.
Jeff F
February 20, 2007, 09:58 PM
I think the .45 win mag was a bit more then a hot .45 acp. If I remember right the case was about the same length as a .44 mag. The .45 super was a hot rodded .45 acp.
Sniper X
February 21, 2007, 04:37 PM
More of a slang term, not a misnomer.
The .45 Colt, sometimes called the .45 Long Colt to distinguish it from the short .45 cartridge historically required by the S&W Schofield revolver, as well as the .45 ACP (also sometimes, incorrectly, referred to as the .45 Colt), is the oldest service cartridge still in use today. It was introduced in 1873 for the then new Colt Single Action Army (SAA) revolver, the famous Peacemaker. The .45 Colt and the SAA revolver quickly became legends in their own time, and the most popular handgun/cartridge combination on the Western frontier.
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