CDNN 7.62x54R ammo?


February 21, 2007, 12:20 PM
On the back page of their latest catalog, CDNN lists brass cased, boxer primed, reloadable 180gr FMJ 7.62x54R. Says it's from a .gov production overrun (Which .gov? When did Uncle Sam buy that caliber?)

$4/15, $16/60, +S&H. It's cheaper than Graf brass. I'm thinking about getting some just for the brass.

Anyone know anything about this stuff?

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February 21, 2007, 12:25 PM
Is this an online place? Or just mail order? How do I check it out?

February 21, 2007, 12:30 PM
They are good to do business with....chris3

February 21, 2007, 12:35 PM
Their catalog is also online, but you have to be willing to page through a massive .pdf file.

February 21, 2007, 12:58 PM
the US did have a very short relation with the 7.62X54r and the Mosin Nagant as the US Rifle Model 1916.but i highly doubt thats what ammo this is.

if you could post a picture, even of the metal tin we may be able to help you better

Edit. Just looked through the flyer, and it says "US GOV overrun" i imagine we may be making some 54r for the iraqis. but i dont imagine the Gov would be surplusing that so quickly with everything goin on over there. the picture shows a very distinctive 2 collor case that iv seen before, i just cant remember where

Found it! i think its Yugo

heres the catalogs page.

February 21, 2007, 01:05 PM
Sounds like S&B/Winchester.

February 21, 2007, 04:35 PM
An "overrun" is different from "govt surplus." If the govt wanted say, 100,000 rounds of 7.62x54R they'd contract for that amount with a manufacturer. For the manufacturer, the big expense is setting up the production line. Once the line is running, they'll tend to make a little more than the contract called for to make sure they have enough that meets QC to fufill the contract. If the contract called for 100,000 rounds, and the manufaturer produced 130,000 rounds, that extra 30,000 would be the overrun. Unless the govt contract specifically forbid it, the common practice would be to sell the overrun on the open market. The overrun amount was never accepted by the govt so it's not "surplus" it's extra produced above the needs of the contract.

February 21, 2007, 08:57 PM
We built Mosin's for the Czar in the early 1900's. Its also possible that we were manufacturing ammo for them during WWII to include in our other weapons shipments to them. I know you can't tell anything from a picture, but at least the neck is annuled.

February 21, 2007, 09:56 PM
Gah, always when I am broke! Gah!

February 22, 2007, 08:23 AM
As I'm sitting at work with my damn firewall (blocks CDNN for weapons...grrrrr) I can't look at it. Would anybody be so kind as to send it to me per email? PM me for my address :)

February 22, 2007, 08:52 AM
It is probably Lake City ammunition.
The US Military contracts for Com-Bloc ammunition both for support of allied nations and their own use.
The Military maintains stocks of ex Com-Bloc weapons for training and familiarization use and live ammo firing is part of the game.

Since this stuff is lead core, I am guessing it is an overrun of training ammunition since steel core armor piercing and tracer are the main types used for combat applications.
The majority of this caliber is used in PK and PKM machine guns.

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