I have a problem with "There are 20 times more defensive gun uses than criminal uses"


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jlbraun
February 21, 2007, 01:02 PM
Would that mean that only 5% of defensive uses involved defending against a gun? That doesn't seem right.

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hso
February 21, 2007, 01:08 PM
It means that law abiding citizen use guns to stop a crime 20 times more often than a gun is used to commit a crime.

jlbraun
February 21, 2007, 01:40 PM
I think I have it.

Consider: It's a given that there are between one million and 2.5 million uses of guns to prevent a crime, and between 50,000 and 125,000 crimes committed with them.

What this means is - the defensive gun uses could all have been defenses against a gun, and those would still count as crimes prevented, not crimes committed. The proportion of defensive gun uses against a criminal with a gun could be 100% or 5%, and it would still count as a defensive gun use, not a crime committed.

Sistema1927
February 21, 2007, 02:07 PM
A better way to look at it is like this: More than 99% of all guns in America will not be used in a crime this year.

The Amigo
February 21, 2007, 02:13 PM
We in the same island Saludos. :D

rhubarb
February 21, 2007, 02:44 PM
Defensive uses of a gun include situations other than those to defend against guns.

A gun might be used to defend against an attacker with a baseball bat or knife, for example. A gun is often used to defend against furry or venomous non-humans as well.

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