[joevilla71]

Widener's.com had them listed for $299.00 yesterday with no-stock. Today they raised them to:

H095100 LOCK-N-LOAD AP NSP $369.00 EA. 0 Log In

That's a $69.00 raise in price!!!! WOW! :cuss:

They told me prices on all their Hornady stuff will be higher due to demand this year.

[redneck2]

Ouch!

Hang on to your hat. I suspect you'll see a lot of stuff going up. Raw materials (copper, steel, etc), shipping costs, energy, health care all add to costs.

You guys that are too young to remember the Jimmy Carter years are in for a rude shock.

[hapi]

the 369 price is for the new press. the 299 was for the older press. The older press didn't have the sub plate for the case feeder nor did it have the new priming system. Both of those added on later would add $100+ to the original 299 price. Go to grafs and pay 359 with free shipping. Both companies are good, but grafs wins on this one with the free shipping.

[1911user]

the 369 price is for the new press. the 299 was for the older press. The older press didn't have the sub plate for the case feeder nor did it have the new priming system. Both of those added on later would add $100+ to the original 299 price. Go to grafs and pay 359 with free shipping. Both companies are good, but grafs wins on this one with the free shipping.

$299 was last years price. I bought mine from wideners at that price last April. The only difference is the new ones have the newest powder drop activator made to use the caliber specific inserts to expand and drop powder in the same station. The subplate hasn't changed in 2-3 years and is casefeeder capable. The old subplate had no provision for the casefeeder. The priming system hasn't changed in at least a year or 2 and is decent so long as you keep debris out of the primer slide area. It is very similar to the dillon 550 priming system; simple and effective.

Everyones prices on LNL-APs went up when their orders for this year started showing up in the last month or 2.

[Empyrean]

I got mine for $315 in November from Midway. I'm pretty happy I purchased when I did. I got the case feeder for $225. Compared to current pricing I saved nearly $100 bucks. The 1,000 bullets as a bonus. Really nice deal.

[hornadylnl]

I got mine from Wideners in Nov. of last year and it is a post 10,000 serial number model. I have a casefeeder and my subplate is the newer style.

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

This is the time of year when woodworking machines, gun and reloading equipment goes up in price. Because of the significant increase in raw materials over the past year, expect prices on all reloading equipment to jump significantly in the next month or so.

That's why I've been buying as many things as I can, because when they're restocked at these big outfits, they're gonna jump significantly. Not just Hornady, but across the board for all manufacturers.

Regards,

Dave

[benedict1]

All the more reason if you're after a Hornady to check out Kempf's at

http://www.kempfgunshop.com/products/reloading/hornadyprodu/95100.html

They still have them for $339.

[SLM]

I just received my new L-N-L AP a few days ago from Midsouth. I backordered it a while ago for $310.00. I'd been checking the estimated delivery date on Midsouth's site and it went from 2/17 to 3/25 so I was very supprised when I got home from Daytona, FL and it was here. I wasn't expecting to see it for over a month!

Anyway, how can I tell if it's just one they found lying around or if they did get a few new ones in and I got one of those? Does it really matter?

[1911user]

What is the press serial number? If it's over 10K, it should be the newest style.

The powder measure activator will have a short (1") spring if it's the new style or a long (3-4") one for last years model.

[leper65]

Ahhh!!! I didn't see you could backorder one from Midsouth. I was waiting for Widener's to get them in stock, but then their price jumped. Just ordered mine for $325.77 inc Shipping.

[SLM]

What is the press serial number? If it's over 10K, it should be the newest style.

The powder measure activator will have a short (1") spring if it's the new style or a long (3-4") one for last years model.
Thanks. I'll have to get it back out of the box tomorrow and look for a S/N and see if I can find that spring. I just gave it a quick glance as I won't be able to set it up for a month or so anyway.

EDIT: I just pulled it out of the box to check if anyone else is interested. Mine is S/N 107xx and has the short spring. I've also orderd from Kempf's and had good service. leper65, $325 shipped is still a good price. With all the other stuff I ordered, I paid $17.00 for shipping so it would have been about the same price for just the press.

[redneck2]

Kinda funny. Guys here from California are buying Hornady because of the deal they get from Kempf's.

I live about 20 miles from the shop and bought a Dillon because of Kempf's attitude. If he'd have been as easy to deal with as the Dillon dealer, I'd probably have Hornady instead.

Don't want to get too L&P in this forum, but I suspect this is a spin off of the increase in Minimum Wage. Minimum Wage doesn't affect prices directly, but it instills an inflation mindset.

[Ala Dan]

As they say " We Ain't Seen Nut'in Yet", as too the price increases across
the board on firearms related items~!:eek: :mad: :cuss:

[Walkalong]

On the LNL. Do you use the expander die in the second station just like the old Projector? How does the "case activated powder drop" work and what does this entail when changing calibers? ( I don't need this feature, can it be done away with if I want to? ) Are you expanding the case here while you drop powder? I am thinking of upgrading from my old Projector. Thanks.:)

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

Walkalong,

The Lock N Load is similar in appearance to the Projector, but has some significant differences. With that in mind, I'll try to answer your questions.

"On the LNL. Do you use the expander die in the second station just like the old Projector?"

You don't need an expander die. You can buy an expander insert (8-10 bucks) for the case activated powder drop and combine the case expansion with powder dispensing. These come in most popular calibers.

"How does the "case activated powder drop" work and what does this entail when changing calibers?"

It's base is like a die and activated the powder measure above it (a rotary cylinder Hornady measure) through a spring loaded linkage. When you raise the cartridge into the die, the measure is rotated and dispenses powder into the case. With pistol, you remove the appropriate rifle insert and install the appropriate pistol expander insert and the case is belled as well. When you change calibers, you swap out the appropriate pistol or rifle insert, adjust the powder die base and set the powder measure to dispense the amount of powder you wish. You can also buy addition powder die bases, but I've never needed to buy one, as it's pretty easy to adjust the bases once you get the idea.

"( I don't need this feature, can it be done away with if I want to? )"

I don't know why you would do away with it, as it's one of the best features of the Lock N Load.

"Are you expanding the case here while you drop powder?"

Yes, you can with pistol. For rifle, unless you're loading lead, there's no need to and you have inserts that don't expand that come with the case activated powder drop for rifle.

"I am thinking of upgrading from my old Projector."

You would find it a similar in mechanical advance, but significantly improved in most other design aspects. The powder measure activation is much better and safer, the Lock and Load bushings make changing calibers a snap, the shellplates work much better (a negative for you is your old shellplates do not work well on the lock n load, I know, I got some cheaply used and tried them out - they changed the subplate, so they're not quite compatible) , the primer feed is much more dependable now, giving no trouble if kept clean of debris and adjusted properly when installed.

Regards,

Dave

[Walkalong]

If I just want to use my expander dies and not use the expander inserts for the LNL, can I do that? I also want to use my Redding 10X instead of the Hornady. Is this feasible? It works fine on the Projector. It uses a threaded 4 or 5 inch "exstension" that screws into the press and then the measure screws into it. I eyeball EVERY case for powder as I seat a bullet. I am not concerned wether I utilize the "case activated" powder drop feature or not.

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

You can, but be aware the LnL with the case activated powder drop and micrometer has been more accurate for me than my hand operated Redding BR30 powder measure.

The way you're planning on doing things, you'd be just as well off with the Projector or a Lee Classic turret and save the money you'd spend on the LnL, because by the time you hand operate the powder drop, you've lost at least 30% of the speed the progressive provides you, if not more.

Not trying to discourage you, but just being honest.

Regards,

Dave

[BigSoundRacing]

Dave,

I learn something with almost every post that you make - thanks.

[Walkalong]

You can, but be aware the LnL with the case activated powder drop and micrometer has been more accurate for me than my hand operated Redding BR30 powder measure.

WOW, cause the Reddings are pretty dang good.

I am not dropping powder by hand. I hooked it up to be automatic with the Redding 10X and the projector and don't see why I could not with the LNL as well. Before I got the 10X I had made some parts to make Hornady's old pistol powder measure with the bushings work automatically with the press. Loaded 1000's of .45 ACP that way. I still have that setup stashed away. I got the Redding for the versatility and repeatability of the micrometer adjustment. i did not realize the Hornady had a micrometer adjustment. I had read something that lead me to believe it did not.

[joevilla71]

SLM I just received my new L-N-L AP a few days ago from Midsouth. I backordered it a while ago for $310.00. I'd been checking the estimated delivery date on Midsouth's site and it went from 2/17 to 3/25 so I was very supprised when I got home from Daytona, FL and it was here. I wasn't expecting to see it for over a month!

That was awesome help SLM. I called Midsouth and now there price is $309.99. :what: They allowed me to place the LNL-AP on backorder. They said it might be a month, but hey who cares as long as I got a good price. I ordered shells plates .40/.45, and two quick change dies along with the LNL-AP all for $17.00 shipping!! There was more I wanted, but they didn't have it in stock.

Now where is the casefeeder cheapest? They wanted $295.00 I think. :eek:

Great to see this forum helped save some money today!!! :neener:

Everyone better jump on this while the price is good
Item: Status: Price:
005-095100 On Order $309.99

[hapi]

i got one from wideners and it was the older style. I opened it up and it had a 1998 manual, so they're selling both the new and old at that price. I sent it back for a refund and ended up finding one locally that was barely used.


casefeeders are around $255-$265 at

http://www.kempfgunshop.com/products/reloading/hornadyprodu/95100.html

and

http://www.grafs.com/fc/browse.php?q=&v=410&s=az&p=603