[Alan Fud]

I had a little cyber-talk with Mr. DeAngelo and he appears to be changing his position ... Thank you for your note. I have determined that my Applejam Applebee's restaurants will be consistent with our parent company's (Applebee's International) practice of not posting signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns. Therefore, in the Applejam of Texas' Applebee's restaurants, we will not post signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns.

I look forward to your continued patronage of your local Applebee's Neighborhood Grill & Bar.

Sincerely,

Frank DeAngelo ... see what can be accomplished if we all stick together ;)

[Ebbtide]

Wow, I'm so happy I made a difference!!!!

Good Job!!!!

Lets make sure we write him back on his good decision.

[Baba Louie]

Hmmmm.

Kudo's Alan.

Sounds like a Texan now.

That was a fast turnaround. I'll bet his insurance company is gonna raise his premiums tho.

Adios

[dave]

As I said on the other thread, polite and reasonable replies to a bad policy almost always work. 'Specialy when aimed at the wallet.

We can all learn from this. No "hot head" letters or e-mail,no threats or bad words, and no personal attacks. Keep a level head and work from a position of "calm, cool and collected".

You know, that old honey and flies thing.


Good work guys.

[pytron]

I got the same note! Wahoo! Concerned gun owners make a difference again.

-Pytron

[brookstexas]

I received a call from Frank DeAngelo this morning prior to our phone "Appointment". He informed me that he has received over a 100 emails etc. Here is the Email I received-

From Frank DeAngelo Fri Jun 6 08:31:58 2003

Thank you for your note. I have determined that my Applejam Applebee's restaurants will be consistent with our parent company's (Applebee's International) practice of not posting signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns. Therefore, in the Applejam of Texas' Applebee's restaurants, we will not post signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns.


I look forward to your continued patronage of your local Applebee's Neighborhood Grill & Bar.



Sincerely,

Frank DeAngelo

He asked that I post this to several forums, this one by name!
All the effort was worth it and it just involves us using our voice!
Thanks!
BrooksTexas
;)

[blackhawk2000]

Just got the same email:cool:

[JDSlack]

Just got it too. Damn, I love when the system works.

[Kinsman]

Nice job, guys.
Chalk another one up for the good guys.

[keithernTN]

Same reply for me also. You just can't argue with the constitution.

[USMCsilver]

I wish that meant something for us over here in SC. Here, we are not allowed to carry into a place that sells alcohol for consumption.

It's a dumb law, IMHO, because most CWP holders are smart enough not to get tanked while CWPing. If there were ever a chance to twart a crime, we could not do our part to remedy a situation.

But hey, concealed is concealed...

[Tom B]

Just got mine also. Down for the count in the first round!:neener: I asked them if they were going to protect customers like Lubys management did?

[CMichael]

Congratulation! You worked through the system and succeeded.

[JohnK]

I wonder if what changed his mind were questions asking how he was going to gaurentee his patrons safety since he was preventing them from protecting themselves. The threat of that potential liability may have been a good motivator for him.

[Steve Smith]

SEND THANK YOU NOTES, and MAKE SURE that your buddies send THANK YOU notes too!

[Quantrill]

Got the same note from Frank

Thank you for your note. I have determined that my Applejam Applebee's restaurants will be consistent with our parent company's (Applebee's International) practice of not posting signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns. Therefore, in the Applejam of Texas' Applebee's restaurants, we will not post signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns.



I look forward to your continued patronage of your local Applebee's Neighborhood Grill & Bar.



Sincerely,

Frank DeAngelo

[Partisan Ranger]

USMCsilver,

We have the same idiocy in Virginia. Swell law, guys. If a drunken SOB starts shooting up the local Fridays, my family and me will have to resort to ducking under a table.

I can carry openly in an establishment that serves booze, but I am not big on people staring at me.

[cola8d8]

I sent a "Thank you" note and will go eat there tonight... Have a gift certificate anyway....

[No4Mk1]

This is a fantastic WIN!

Now, let's get the same level of support behind SB 501 in Texas and let Governor Perry know that he should sign this into law! SB 501 will prevent local governments in TX from doing the same thing we just slammed Applebee's for doing.

Look HERE (http://www.packing.org/talk/thread.jsp/12218/) for more information!

[Jack19]

Good job guys!!! We have Applebee's here in NC but I don't think I've ever been to one. If they sell alcohol I can't carry inside anyway, NC law, but it's good to know that 100 emails to an anti-gun company can make a difference.

Excellent job to all who emailed!!!

[HankB]

...my Applejam Applebee's restaurants will be consistent with our parent company's (Applebee's International) practice... Sounds like he got spanked by Corporate, who could see this thing snowballing like the K-Mart Rosie Boycott.

Great outcome - and see, if you just tell them you'll honor their policy by taking your business elsewhere, the policy can change.

I may just dine at an Applebee's this weekend after all.

[Henry Bowman]

Thank you notes go a long way, but, those of you who live there . . .

Please go eat there and thank them in person. If you can't stand the food, have a Coke or some fries, anything. That way the manager will know he did the right thing (or those who ordered him did the right thing) and not feel like he was blackmailed.

[Henry Bowman]

Thank you notes go a long way, but, those of you who live there . . .

Please go eat there and thank them in person. If you can't stand the food, have a coke or some fries, anything. That way the manager will know he did the right thing (or those who ordered him did the right thing) and not feel like he was blackmailed.

[El Tejon]

Henry, their salads are quasi-decent.

Good advice from Steve and Henry. Minnesota THRers, this is the way.

[George Hill]

I merged these two threads...

This is AWESOME! This policy change happened FAST!
Good Work EVERYBODY!

BEHOLD THE POWER OF THR!!!!

:D

I think this fantastic! WE WON! HA! And we won it fast. He quickly came to see the light. How cool is that? Just because this cat made this decision based on money - he is still an Anti-Gun jackhole. His first email response to the question regarding the No Concealed Weapons Policy was a slap in the face... basically saying if you pack heat your tresspassing. Looks like we slapped him in the face right back. And slapped him a lot harder. WAY TO GO!

[Bowlcut]

Occasionaly the system works, and works well. Yes everyone send thank you notes and go patronize an applebee's. I know I will try my best to get to one in thanks. Maybe a good place for lunch today....

[George Hill]

Who is next? :scrutiny:



:D

[foghornl]

Mr. Hill:

Who is next ? ? ?

How about the Ohio Spineless Senate that screwed up CCW reform last session, and keeps delaying it this session......

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

And a big hearty sweeping tip of the hat to you folks that convinced Applebee's (applejam) to change their "No CCW in our joints" mindset. :D :D

[Steve Smith]

BTW, I have an extra note on my checks that says, "I patronize Pro-2nd Ammendment companies and organizations." Can'' hurt.

[ElToro]

hang together or hang separately...

if only i had CCW in CA.. if only i ate at applebees

[bogie]

Kodiak, you may be mistaken... It could be that he, like _many_ folks out there, equate firearms carry with the criminal element. They're ignorant. That, fortunately, is a curable condition.

It could be that he has taken a step from the "anti" side of the street a bit closer to the "pro" side of the street.

Who knows - we may, in fact, gain a few converts with this. The path from ignorance to knowledge can work.

[Dave R]

I'm gonna eat at Applebee's to celebrate.

[cordex]

Thank you sent.

[P95Carry]

This is satisfyingly remarkeable ..... it'd seem that perhaps, just perhaps ..... apart from any influence from ''them up top'' .... that he may just actually have stopped to THINK about the whole issue.

Kudos to all.... the emails were more than worth while .... powerful in fact.

[cobb]

I got a response back to the e-mail I sent to Mr. DeAngelo also, so Maybe we did turn a few heads.

So, lets get together sometime in the future and do this whole thing again.

:D

I also e-mail him a thank you and commented on how much my youngest son enjoys Applebee's baby back ribs.

[ACP230]

I got the same note this morning.
I can now put Applebee's back on my list of places to try someday.

I was surprized to see such quick action on this.

[MacPelto]

Woohoo! Now...jsalcedo...time to go back and see if he's actually taken it down. LET US KNOW!

[jsalcedo]

The family and I will be there tonight.

I'll bring a copy DeAngelos letter just in case.

Posted this on the wrong thread:

I walk into an Applebees on 6/2/2003 8:00pm

Walk out of applebees on 6/2/2003 8:01pm

Post it on THR on 6/3/2003 4:00pm

Fire off an Email about a stupid sign to Deangelo 6/4/2003 9:00am.

Post his smarmy reply here at THR 6/4/2003 12:09pm

6/4/2003 through 6/5/2003 Frank Deangelo is innundated with
thousands of angry but polite Emails about his stupid policy by
nearly every gun owner with a computer.

6/62003 10:30am I am notified of their change in policy.

Way to go THR!!!!

6/6/2003 10:31am Jsalcedo is innundated by 200 penis enlargement emails....

[cordex]

See if he'll let you buy one of the scrapped signs off of him for cheap.

You know ... like a trophy.

[CZ-75]

Someone just posted that the Waffle House chain is anti-CCW/2nd in L&P.

[Leatherneck]

Someone just posted that the Waffle House chain is anti-CCW/2nd in L&P.
Sound the trumpets! Cry Havoc, and slip loose the dogs of WAR!
THR Rides again!
:D
TC
TFL Survivor

[Norm357]

Sound the trumpets! Cry Havoc, and slip loose the dogs of WAR!
THR Rides again


LOL
Norm out

[firestar]

I know it has been posted already but I just got this same e-mail back from Mr. DeAngelo and I had to share. It makes you feel good when you helped to change something for the better.

"Thank you for your note. I have determined that my Applejam Applebee's restaurants will be consistent with our parent company's (Applebee's International) practice of not posting signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns. Therefore, in the Applejam of Texas' Applebee's restaurants, we will not post signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns.



I look forward to your continued patronage of your local Applebee's Neighborhood Grill & Bar.



Sincerely,

Frank DeAngelo"

[firestar]

Just sent a thank you note to Mr. DeAngelo. Every one who got this reply should send a nice note back to reward him for doing good. Lets not be smug, just polite.

[Sam Adams]

I just got the same email this morning. Good job by all involved.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like VICTORY!!!!!

[shermacman]

I sent my email! Goes to show the power of organized, motivated people! Let's do it again!

[bogie]

Just fired a note off to the Waffle House folks...

===
I'm on a low carb diet, and like to eat at Waffle House restaurants - hey,
I like your omelets. They're perfect.

But since your company has adopted a stance of not allowing people who
_legally_ carry concealed firearms on the premises, I'm no longer going to be
able to patronize your restaurants. I don't know if someone in your
corporate headquarters has equated ownership of firearms with gangsters or
something, but they need to realize that concealed carry permit holders are, by
definition, some of the most law-abiding folks in the country. We are NOT
criminals (in fact, how many of your general population of customers, or
employees for that matter, have had background checks performed on them to
ensure that they have no criminal records?), and when we're equated with such,
it is very insulting. Please keep in mind that the criminal element won't
pay any attention to your policies - it's only the permit holders whose
business you will lose.

In the past (often while travelling to practice - your Wentzville, MO
store was a favorite place to stop prior to visiting the St. Louis Benchrest
Rifle Club in Wright City - or to matches) I've often eaten there, since the
quality is consistent around the country, and I'll miss it.

Should you revise your policy, I'll resume my patronage. Thank you very
much.

[geekWithA.45]

Well done, gang!

I just posted this over on NJCSD.org as an example of positive change, for the poor demonized gunowners of NJ.

WE CAN, AND WE WILL TAKE BACK OUR STATE. IT IS OURS.

[Ruger Redhawk]

Looks like our emails and phone calls worked. I received the same reply from Mr.DeAngelo as the one already posted here.In my email to him the other day I mentioned how Gun Owners stick together.I guess he realized he screwed up.If we would have taken this laying down ,we would have had more of our rights chipped away.There are others just like Applebee's.We need to find out who they are and start this process of emailing them just like we did Applebee's.Good job guys. Keep up the good work.
Ruger Redhawk

[BowStreetRunner]

nice job all,
im glad i can eat there again :)
i do like their mely burgers (although they took them off the menu so you have to special order them...but they are goooood)
IMO
Im glad that THR made a difference
BSR

[WAGCEVP]

I got the same thing. GREAT Job , everyone!:D :cool:

Thank you, Frank!
You have once again gained my service!
nancy



-------Original Message-------
From: Frank DeAngelo <frank@applejaminc.com>
Sent: 06/06/03 11:34 AM
To: Nancy <>
Subject: RE: Anti Gun Applebee Boycott Begins NOW!

>
> Thank you for your note. I have determined that my Applejam Applebee's
restaurants will be consistent with our parent company's (Applebee's
International) practice of not posting signs prohibiting licensed, concealed
handguns. Therefore, in the Applejam of Texas' Applebee's restaurants, we will not
post signs prohibiting licensed, concealed handguns.

I look forward to your continued patronage of your local Applebee's
Neighborhood Grill & Bar.

Sincerely,
Frank DeAngelo

[DigMe]

Wow! I've been impressed with the action I've seen to these things from the gun-owning community in the last couple of weeks (and it's not just THR, it started here but it has spread to other boards who also emailed Applejam). Two weeks ago a similar campaign was started over on www.packing.org to convince Alan Young Buick in Richardson to take down their 30.06 signs. They did. That's 2 successes in 2 or 3 weeks that I've seen thanks to rallying together of the gun community. We can be doing this on a constant basis, one victory at a time. Good job, all!

brad cook

[WAGCEVP]

I posted the original note to several other boards and firearm discussion lists.... Maaaaan it lit up the net like fireworks!
Poor Frank, bet he thinks twice before ever "dis'ing" gunowners again :D :neener: :neener: :evil: :p :cool:

[Peetmoss]

I am amazed at this. I wouldn't have thought it possible for such a small amount of people to make a diffrence. Congratulations to all who particitpated in this small victory. A small step in the right direction. Again congrats on the victory.

[cool45auto]

OMG! Just got home. I got the same email! That was unbelievably fast. Everyone that emailed please do send a thank you in reply.

We rock!:D

[OEF_VET]

I hadn't gotten around to e-mail a letter of disapproval with Applejam's policy, and I'm very happy I no longer need to do so. I did send Mr. Dangelo a thank you note however.

To those of you who did send e-mails: Thank you.

[JohnKSa]

1. If you posted this information on other boards, please post the policy change on the boards as well.

2. If you sent an email asking for the change send an email or note thanking him for the change. Enclosing a receipt showing you had a meal at one of his restaurants after the policy change would be a NICE touch.

[WAGCEVP]

way ahead of ya, John :)

[Doc]

son of a gun, it worked!

me thinks mr deangelo must have gotten a bucket FULL of email!

Pretty cool!

[Safety First]

That's great news for the folks in the Lone Star state, but the state law in Georgia prohibits CCW where alcohol is sold, I have heard that may change,but for now we can't carry there..

[andyjf80]

yup got the same message and was glowing today...I feel like my e-mail was the straw that broke the anti-gun toting camels' back.
not really, but it does feel good to have e-mailed and made a change.
We certainly do need to unify our actions and go after one business as a time. Sounds like a great plan.

I already sent a thank you e-mail, but will also go and patronize Applebee's in order to show my appreciation.

lets all do the same.

[mormonsniper]

I sent a thank you email to Mr DeAngelo as well though I do not live in the great state of Texas. I am now off to Applebees with the family of 5 to keep MY end of the bargain. I think we need to walk our talk. I will mention this thread to the local Applebees manager. Tell your friends and coworkers and email buddies that Applebees is very supportive of the Constitution. It will make a difference.
Blessings to all. Stay safe.

Mormonsniper

Yes I am;)

Went to Applebees last night with the family and an extra kid {always a treat taking kids out to eat :banghead: }. After we ate, I took the bill to the manager and explained why I was there. I thanked her and Applebees for their support of 2nd Amendment rights and the support of those who carry concealed. The management was not aware of the brewhaha going on concerning Applebees in Texas but they do now. I mentioned Mr DeAngelo's name and Applejam Inc.

Steaks-average (too much salt for me). Salmon-good. ChickenPotPie-good. Wrap-average. Service-average to good.
Applebees has a feedback page on their website as do most other businesses. Bill: $85, Tip:$10, Discussion with manager: Priceless.

[aerod1]

I got the same reply. Amazing what a little pressure at "Hip Pocket National Bank" will accomplish.

Jim Hall

[Erik]

Money talks, so the saying goes. I am pleased to see the change.

[GlockHobbit]

Now the question is, can we write our congressmen about the aw ban with the same enthusiasm ?

[Monte Harrison]

Good on y'all for making noise to affect change, and good on him for listening to reason.

[Carlos Cabeza]

That is FANTASTIC ! Chalk one for the good guys. :cool:

[9mmMike]

Good job team. You guys make me proud. Don't forget to send a "thanks" to Mr. D. if you get a chance. It is always good to show a little class.
Mike

[general]

Never been to Applebees but will go now and send reciept in a thank you card to Mr. DeAngelo -
Exxxxxccellent......

[jsalcedo]

I went into applebees this afternoon with my son to see if they actually lived up to their promise to allow CCW in their establishments.

I walked in and immediately saw a blank spot on the wall where the infamous sign once was.

The way things normally go it would take an act of congress to get something like that removed...but the folks here on THR really came through for RKBA.

I spent 30 bucks and thanked the manager.

We have the ball rolling and the numbers to make a difference
lets not lose momentum.

[12 Volt Man]

Great work!!:D :D :D

[12.7x99mm]

Nice work people

[Combat-wombat]

see you guys, a group of people can make a big difference! Nice work!:)

[Hot brass]

Ditto:)

[280PLUS]

i remember the original post a while back but didn't email anyone, noone ever told me i couldnt carry in applebees so i wasnt all that worried about it.

good work, those of you that did.

its nice to see that organized efforts do find success, and in this case, pretty fast success

:D

[Intune]

okay, now about Waffle House. Is it a local ban or corp? I will check out local today. Power to and OF the PEOPLE! What a great feeling!

:cool:

[4v50 Gary]

Kudos guys.

[Dan from MI]

Great work - all of you.

BTW - I wish they saved the post counts from The Firing Line so I don't have 'new member' there....

[Bainx]

Applebees is now OUT of the doghouse.

I will support them, I will, I will, I will!:cool:

[Ebbtide]

I hate to dig up the past but I just ate at Applebee's (no comment) and would like to send DeAngelo the reciept as a sign of support for his decision, but I could not find an address for him. Does anyone have it?

Thanks, ehenz

Edit: Nevermind

Applejam, Inc.
3355 Breckenridge Blvd, Ste 126
Duluth, GA 30096

Its always in the last place you look:rolleyes:

[XavierBreath]

Bumping in light of the Hooters thread

[Stevie-Ray]

Good job fellas.

[t-stox]

they have an old saying..."you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" but heres my new saying....."you can catch more flies with Horses_H_I_T than you can with Honey" :rolleyes:

[southparkaddict]

Never been to Applebees but will go now and send reciept in a thank you card to Mr. DeAngelo -

What a great idea! BTW - I think what you all accomplished with Applebees is amazing! Sadly, it wouldn't matter here in TN due to "consumption & carry* laws, but I was impressed nonetheless.

Great job to further the cause ...regardless of where you live! :)

[bogie]

Scott, whether a business is in one's state or not, or is even something you would ordinarily patronize, is beside the point. We need to let the folks know that discrimination will not be tolerated.

[southparkaddict]

Scott, whether a business is in one's state or not, or is even something you would ordinarily patronize, is beside the point. We need to let the folks know that discrimination will not be tolerated.
Well put, bogie... well put :)

[Alchymist]

Now I can feel comfortable taking advantage of Applebee's free dinner on Nov 11!
http://www.applebees.com/vetsday/

And I did sent an email of thanks......;)

[rbernie]

This thread is over SIX YEARS OLD. It's no longer relevant.