[boredelmo]

What pistol would you use for, lets say war combat.

I recently sold my Beretta 92fs because i was in need of funds. Now im in the market for something new and need a replacement.

Although i know plenty people would opt for the single stack .45 for whatever purpose, that just will not do! I do have a Sig p220 that i love, but i want something in case there are 50+ zombies :neener: :neener: .

Here are the guidelines:

1. Double stacked magazine
2. Does not need to be concealable
3. Availible hi cap mags.
4. Good options for accessories.


Im really looking at the Baby Eagle.

What is your suggestion? Reasons?

[hrgrisso]

I love my full size 226. A new one with a rail would be even more "accessory" friendly. Double Stack definely. In 9mm you can even get 20rd mags! Very durable, user friendly and a reputation other companies wish they had. You can't go wrong!

[CWL]

Glock G17. Fits your requirements, will be cheapest to own in the long run because of mags, parts & accessories.

[frez]

Go for Smith & Wesson M&P. They come in 9mm, .40, .357, and .45 and compact sizes as well.

[Ken Rainey]

Glock 17

[Geno]

Glock 19C. Unless you have huge hands, go with the 19C. The 19C is the same height as a 1911. The grip, for me, is quite comfortable, and with the compensator slots in the barrel/slide, follow-up shots are fast and accurate! Note that the carry Glocks (the 26, 19C, 17) all accept the 15, 17 and 33 round magazines. :) Regardless of what you buy, buy comfort first, followed by excellent reliability! Rent the make/model and try it. Rental also hold the value of showing you how it will last.

Note: Where I buy my pistols, the owner gives me the rental FREE, for the final 2 or 3 pistols under consideration for a factual purchase. I only have to buy the ammo. What I owe him for the free rental is an immediate purchase! For example, when I was looking at 9mms, I wanted either a Glock 17, 19 or 26. He gave me the rentals all free. I fired 1 box of 9mm through each pistol. I bought the 17. A few months later, same thing; I wanted either the 19C or the 26. He gave me free rental, and I fired 1 box through each. I bought the 19C.

Doc2005

[RH822]

There are several worthy handguns that I would consider, but I'll have to stick with my 1911, it's the one I trust the most.

RH

[tbtrout]

Given your disdain for the 1911, I wolud have to sy the XD.

[Deer Hunter]

The Baby Eagle is a great firearm. If you're looking at it, you wont be disappointed.

[Sapper771]

I would recommend going to the local gun shop and looking at a Glock pistol. Each pistol has its own feel to it, different calibers may fit your hand better. I prefer Glock out of simple trust that it will work when I need it to. The accessories and add-on parts are inexpensive and easy to find, you can get extra high capacity magazine for around $17 a piece (www.cdnninvestments.com). If you decide Glock is not what you want, go for something else. Like I said I trust Glock , and I am glad to hear that you tossed your Beretta, I spent a year in Iraq with one , and it would never function correctly, it would have made a good paper weight for an administrative clerk though. Good Luck.

[hexidismal]

I'm personally not a fan of the baby eagle at all, but thats just my opinion. Since you're against a single stack .45, how about a double stack .45 like the XD45 or a Para-Ord high cap 1911. I for one (and again, just my opinion) wouldn't take a 9mm to a real gunfight.

[Nomad, 2nd]

I've got a P14 (Doublestacked 1911)

HK USP .45 would also be a good option. (I found one for a buddy for $600, if he ever sells it he hasto sell it to me.)

[SnakeEater]

HK USP9 with jet funnel and 18rd mags. Next question?

[doc2rn]

Glock 17 or 19 can get 50 round mags or HK Mp5k centerfire for that higher cyclic rate of 1200 rounds per minute.

[10-Ring]

Zombie attack, I'd go w/ either my USP 45 or 9 until I get to my shotgun :D

[sm]

Why reinvent the wheel?

I prefer : a bone stock Gov't Model of 1911 USGI/Colt 7 round mags.

OLDer S&W Military & Police , Revolver. 3" RB HB, with fixed sights.

Now I am just a regular old guy, and the way I was raised, Mindset, Awareness, Training , and Adopt, Improvise Overcome were instilled.

Run what you brung

Hear about the 70 year Marine in port during a cruise? Yep he and other older folks in Port , were approached by a 20 y/o thug with a handgun.
70 y/o Marine broke 20 y/o thugs neck, barehanded. Killed the thug.
Another knife wielding thug, turned tail and run.

Combat? I dunno, Older folks in another country, no guns, and they "run what they brung" and survived.

Lessons in this incident, good ones too.

[universal]

Glock 17.

[mrcpu]

Double stack 1911.

[g5reality]

Any Golck Any caliber I prefer the 19 myself.

Fullsize
Glock 17 9MM
Glock 22 40SW
Glock 31 357 SIG
Glock 20 10MM
Glock 21 45 ACP
Glock 37 45 GAP
Compact
Glock 19 9MM
Glock 23 40SW
Glock 32 357 SIG
Glock 29 10MM
Glock 30 45 ACP
Glock 38 45 GAP
Sub Compact
Glock 26 9MM
Glock 27 40SW
Glock 33 357 SIG
Glock 36 45 ACP
Glock 39 45 GAP
Practical/Tactical
Glock 34 9MM
Glock 35 40SW
Glock 17L 9MM
Glock 24 40

[Waywatcher]

Another vote for Glock. Accessories are easy to come by and the factory magazines are the cheapest by far and they work 100%. I also say 9mm if you plan on shooting a lot, unless you have a lot of extra disposable income.

[ARTiger]

S&W M&P .45 . . . they're just becoming available or a HK USP would also be a good choice. I'd have a hard time deciding between those. If you like the Baby Eagle platform and can do with 9mm caliber-wise, the CZ SP-01 is hard to beat with 18-19 round capacities, rail, etc. It was made for combat.

Whether you're talking real combat (ball ammo only) or mall ninja combat (high-tech expanding bullets allowed) makes all the difference. In case of the former, a .45 is the way to go IMHO.

[Cato the Younger]

I have one and love it!

[mr.trooper]

Your looking at the same action....but go with a full sized CZ-75. Get yourself some hogue grips, and night sites.

[bad LT]

"run what they brung"

LOL sm!!!

Get any well known gun (many have been sugested here) in a calliber you can afford to shoot, and shoot it till you know that it is relliable. Then shoot it a heck of a lot more till it becomes an extension of your hand. Then shoot it some more:neener:

[daysleeprx]

Take a look at CZs if you're considering a baby eagle.

I love my CZ-SP01...and 19 round mags are always nice for that zombie invasion (until you can get to your shotgun of course) ;)

[SniperStraz]

I'd take the Sig P220 into "war combat" anyday! If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Ala Dan]

Springfield XD .45 ACP

[Marko Kloos]

Combat is an activity, not a device.

Pick the gun that works best for you, and practice with it until you can hit what you aim at with consistency. There's your combat handgun.

[hank327]

Given your criteria, I would choose the Glock 17.

[jad0110]

Although i know plenty people would opt for the single stack .45 for whatever purpose, that just will not do! I do have a Sig p220 that i love, but i want something in case there are 50+ zombies .

Errr, a handgun for 50+ zombies :scrutiny: ???

I think a Mk19 would be pretty decent :evil: :

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/mk19.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpXN7FetkUQ - video is a little shaky at first, but it gets better

[kennyboy]

Glock 21 or HK Mark 23.

[piranha45]

check out m&p, XD, and glock, see which fits your hand best

[45R]

9mm Glock 17 with 33 round magazines

HK USP 45 for double stack 45ACP
Sig 220R for single stack

[Pistol Toter]

Well since he already has a P220; why not stay with the same calibre and go with a GLOCK 21 or the XD45? I have the G21 and my son has the XD45 and both are GREAT!! I'm not sure that I don't favor the XD over the GLOCK. :scrutiny:

[1man]

USP45 Tactical 45acp 12rds
Glock 20 10mm 15rds
Glock 19 9mm 17 or 33rds

[Smith357]

Glock 21

A good solid reliable pistol that will easily handle the rigors of combat in the proven man stopping .45 acp would be my first choice.

[texas bulldog]

i'm surprised that no one so far has suggested this...get a Hi-Power.

if you aren't a big fan of the 1911, and you like double stack, you go with the other classic john browning design. extremely accurate, SA only, very high capacity mags available. and if you get a gunsmith to remove the magazine safety, the trigger is quite nice. if you don't have a lot to spend, the charles daly clone can be found for around $350. if you want a classic, track down an FN Herstal original.

after shooting a friend's, this gun is high on my personal wish list.

[Rod B]

Take a look at the CZ85C.

[nemoaz]

I'd take the Sig P220 into "war combat" anyday! If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

+1. Just buy some magazines if you definitely know 50 zombies are on the way.

Now, if you just want to buy another pistol, then get whatever you want. Another Beretta (used) would be cheap these days. As is a used Glock 17 or 22. Those would be on my list, but I try to stretch my pennies. You don't mention price so maybe that isn't a real concern. Anything that has been posted so far would be an acceptable pistol in my opinion. I think both Glock and Beretta are among the best for cheap and reliable magazines. You also don't mention a preferred caliber. I am assuming 9mm/.40/.45 are ok, but I have to assume because you didn't say otherwise. If you get an XD45 or G21, you at least have

And there's something to be said for having pistols that use the same magazine when one is zombie hunting. You don't want to run out of Glock mags with two zombies to go and have to switch, at an inopportune time, to your backup 220 that is stuffed in an ankle holster.

[jibjab]

Another thought;
http://www.fnhusa.com/products/firearms/group.asp?gid=FNG001

[strambo]

Not a "fun" answer that necessitates another gun...but I'd just pick up some 10rd mags for the P220. Next choice, a P226. Fits your criteria (and any holsters you have for the P220), same operating system etc.

to your backup 220 that is stuffed in an ankle holster.Heh, anyone studly enough to ankle carry a P220 for an all-day zombie killin' will be OK.;)

[Black Majik]

Glock 17 with 33 rd. magazines. 2 magazines for 50 zombies.

Personally, I'd go for a USP .45 fullsize. Or a Mark 23

[jfernett119]

XD .45. I has 13rnd mags and you can get a new one under $500.

[tnieto2004]

XD, CZ, or GLOCK .. All will live up to your expectations ..

9mm unless you wanna spend a lot of $$ on ammo

[DirksterG30]

I'd go with the SIG P226 or CZ SP-01

[Striker]

Many good responses (I'm a Glock Guy).

Given your stated criteria, you might also want to take a look at the revived Cougar, now made and marketed by Stoger. I've shot one recently and was impressed. Has all the advantages of the original Beretta at a much reduced price. One disadvantage is that accessories are somewhat limited, but that should change in time.

I also like the Ruger P-series, especially the P-95. Another good value, with tons of accessories readily available.

My opinion, YMMV.

[Exmasonite]

for me, the big double stack .45s (para ord, etc) just don't fit in my hand that well.

i'd go with a good polymer pistol such as the XD, Sig 2022, or Glock (latter don't fit me well but are darn good guns). capacity, reliability, resistance to torture, ease of takedown/maintenance are what do it for me.

is the reason that these aren't utilized by the military due to the lack of a manual safety? I remember reading about that once...

also, i don't think i'd trust those hi-cap mags in a "war/combat" situation. 13+1 in the XD .45 is enough for me. the rifle will be my primary weapon anyways... pistol is more of an afterthought.

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Steyr M9 or M9A1

[jsdavenport]

There has been a bunch of good weapons listed. Either the Glock 17, or the XD make an excellent choice. For me it was the HK USPf 9mm with Jet tunnel and some 18 rounders. :D

HK USP9 with jet funnel and 18rd mags. Next question?
So +1 to whomever posted this! :)

[crebralfix]

Your SIG P220 is already a "combat handgun". You don't need anything else. Instead, spend the money on a defensive pistol class, spare magazines, and ammunition.

[crebralfix]

But it does sound like you *want* something else. In which case, get the most gun that fulfills your requirement and is fun for you.

[hkenvy91]

a glock or an xd45 would fit the bill on the grounds of availability and function. i myself opted for my h&k usptactical45 its an awesome gun,12-1 rounds of 45 and is a very overbuilt weapon they are strong and can handle the hottest loads u can put in them.they can even handle 45super on occasion.also its recoil reduction system makes double taps very nice and tight,stays on target easier.

[longeyes]

My BOB has a Glock 17.

[6_gunner]

Well, lets see...

1. Double stacke magazine
2. Does not need to be concealable
3. Available hi cap mags.
4. Good options for accessories....

I'd go with my S&W 1917 revolver!

But seriously, I vote for the old 9mm Browning HiPower.

[roscoe]

Glock 20 - it will do all you could ever want, and probably more.

[echoson]

Going with a strictly combat handgun Id say Mark 23 but if you dont want to spend 2000+ stick with a usp 45 had one for years and wouldnt trade for anything!

[c1ogden]

If you mean real war, where supply is a problem, it would have to be a 9mm as that round is available almost anywhere. As far as guns, my favorite is my Browning HiPower but Glock parts are more readily available so I might go that route.

[SouthronBoy]

CZ-75/85

[amprecon]

Glock, anything else and your just playing with yourself. ;)

[HorseSoldier]

CZ SP-01 or SP-01 Tactical (safety versus decocker) would be my first pick, personally.

In the polymer world, I'd feel pretty nicely armed with a Walther P-99, USP, or Glock 19 (I prefer the 19's grip to the 17, personally).

Any of those in 40S&W would work, too, I'm just more a 9mm guy.

In .45 Sig 220 would be my first pick, 1911 second, USP 45 third (but haven't tried the new USP45CT, which might change my opinion).

[GlenJ]

A GLOCK 17 with a bunch of 33 round mags.

[whited]

Your SIG P220 is already a "combat handgun". You don't need anything else. Instead, spend the money on a defensive pistol class, spare magazines, and ammunition.

Yep!

[HMMurdock]

Glock 17 or 19. Affordable and they've replaced the 92F as one of the most common pistols around the world. You can get 33 rd magazines that are cheap and reasonably reliable, not to mention the 17rd standard mags.

Zombies? I have a theory their skulls will be soft enough to be downed by a .22, which is known for rocheting inside of people's heads, and theres no recoil, ammo is cheap, and many mags hold a ton of em. In that case, I'd go for a Ruger MkII or MkIII .22LR but thats a whole other thread ;) ...unless you consider a .22 a combat cartridge. Then more power to you.

TRL

[telecaster1981]

I for one (and again, just my opinion) wouldn't take a 9mm to a real gunfight.


???Because a gun chambered in 9mm isn't a real gun???

[TargetTerror]

I'm going to put in a vote for a Ruger P89. It doesn't have the best trigger, accessories are limited, but it is DEAD RELIABLE. When the zombies come for you, the most important thing is that it will go BANG when you pull the trigger, and a P89 definitely will.

You can also get big 30 round mags for it, were you so inclined.

[waynedm]

I have 35 round mags for my P89. :)

???Because a gun chambered in 9mm isn't a real gun???

Telecaster, the insecure guys have to say such things, don't worry about it.

[mr.trooper]

real Gunners use one of two systems:

1911 for 45acp

Browning Hi-Power / CZ-75 for 9mm or 40S&W

[SnakeEater]

real Gunners use one of two systems:

1911 for 45acp

Browning Hi-Power / CZ-75 for 9mm or 40S&W
whatever:rolleyes:

[Fun2Shoot]

Sig Pro 2022 9mm fits your demands just fine.

http://www.sigarms.com/products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=33&productid=121

[telecaster1981]

Good call Wayne! I get SO tired of all this "if it ain't a .45, it ain't worth shootin" mentality.

How about this absolutist statement:

"Any person who can't get the job at hand done with whatever firearm he has in his hand isn't a real shooter..."

oh, and this thing..

real Gunners use one of two systems:

1911 for 45acp

Browning Hi-Power / CZ-75 for 9mm or 40S&W

As I recall, Bob Munden, Jerry Miculek, and Delf Bryce use/used other "systems." If you're not familiar with Delf Bryce, check him out. http://www.donrearic.com/twodeadlymen.html

A dangerous man is dangerous with whatever you put in his hand...a pussycat with a 1911 is still just a pussycat...

Food for thought. :)

[pharmer]

Sig 226. With it and a Ruger MkII you have everything you need. Joe

[whited]

real Gunners use one of two systems:

1911 for 45acp

Browning Hi-Power / CZ-75 for 9mm or 40S&W

:uhoh:

[roscoe]

I would take the Glock 20 in 10mm if I thought people were going to be shooting back at me regularly.

[skinnyguy]

Another vote here for the Ruger P-series, you can decide on the cal and configuration YOU want here http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FASubType?type=Pistol&subtype=Centerfire%20Autoloading

Cal isn't NEAR as important as shot placement. I prefer the 9mm myself. But it's YOUR gun - YOUR choice.

[usp9]

Any of the several HK .45s to choose from. Maybe the Expert.

[LanEvo`]

What pistol would you use for, lets say war combat.For "war combat" I don't think I'd really care too much about my sidearm. I'd rely on a longarm...say an AR15-pattern rifle with plenty of 30-round mags. As for a handgun, I'd just want something reliable and not too heavy.


Here are the guidelines:

1. Double stacked magazine
2. Does not need to be concealable
3. Availible hi cap mags.
4. Good options for accessories.As others have said, you can't go wrong with a Glock G17/G19, Browning P-35 Hi Power, CZ 75B, or Sig P226.

[biggiesmalls]

in an all out war, i would sell my guns and buy as much viagra as possible. with men shooting at each other, i have a huge obligation to all the ladies. that is all.

[Autolycus]

I would probably go with an HK USP .45 myself. I just prefer HK. I would also be willing to take an HK USP9/.40 if I had to. I just prefer the .45 due to the metal mags.

For concealed carry I would take a P2000.

Personally I have seen many good suggestions. Glock, Sig, and Browning or FN Herstal all are good makers. I am not familiar with CZ myself.

I am just an HK guy myself.

In your case though a Sig P226R might be a good choice as you can use your P220 holsters in the same gun.

[SniperStraz]

in an all out war, i would sell my guns and buy as much viagra as possible. with men shooting at each other, i have a huge obligation to all the ladies. that is all.
Welcome to THR?

[High Planes Drifter]

in an all out war, i would sell my guns and buy as much viagra as possible. with men shooting at each other, i have a huge obligation to all the ladies. that is all.

You'll go blind from doing all of that happy pill. Then you'll be blind in the middle of a combat area, with angry, well armed, husbands gunning for you.

I'd feel comfortable with my Sig 220, but givnen the restrictions posted by the OP, I guess I'd take a Springfield XD45.

[GroovedG19]

Any of the Glock 9x19mm's.Model 17, 19, 26, 34, or 17L.

Ultra-high capacity mags(33rds.)

[helpless]

Buy an XD45acp in the 5" model. This way Springfield-Armory can make more money and continue to make bad ass firearms.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/STspringfieldxd_061206A.jpg (http://springfield-armory.com/xd.php?model=4)

Here is my 4" service.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/neinbalance/helplessxd45.jpg

[possum]

not sure what you mean by "war combat" that is a new one on me.

but my go to gun is a sa xd service model .40

i would also reccomend the glock 17 and or 19 all great choices and they all meet the requirements.